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Libertarians are people without kids?
« on: October 31, 2006, 11:25:51 AM »

My wife used to be libertarian, and I am newly libertarian.  I bring up the topic from time to time and she simply says:
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libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids

So, the question is, do you have kids?  Is she right?
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2006, 11:45:32 AM »

I've known plenty of libertarians with kids. I have two of them. However, my oldest daughter, a libertarian, does not plan to have children.
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2006, 11:46:01 AM »

I've got a 3-year old daughter and a newborn son.  I don't know the context of the quote, but it certainly doesn't resonate with me.  In fact, I see libertarian ideals as the only hope for my kids.  I shudder to think of the crushing tax burdens and loss of liberty that they will face as adults if we continue down the path towards socialism in this country.
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2006, 12:03:43 PM »

My wife used to be libertarian, and I am newly libertarian.  I bring up the topic from time to time and she simply says:
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libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids

So, the question is, do you have kids?  Is she right?

With all due respect to your wife but that is just downright wrong. Most libertarians I've met have children and one of the big things they care about is what this country is going to be like when we have either a totally fascist state or a totally communist state or a combination of both in the near future while they (they're children) are grown. Another big one is having a free market of choices to educate their children with. Instead of the socialist indoctrination acadamies passing for "public" schools now.
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2006, 12:06:59 PM »

Libertarians with kids is just as likly as Blacks with the McRib.  :lol:
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2006, 12:54:57 PM »

Have three children, and am very much a Libertarian. Officially became a Libertarian a few years after my oldest son was born, though I had always had been libertarian-leaning.

I think Libertarian parents just seem like such a minority because the number of Libertarians is already a small portion of the population.
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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2006, 01:34:15 PM »

Have three children, and am very much a Libertarian. Officially became a Libertarian a few years after my oldest son was born, though I had always had been libertarian-leaning.

I think Libertarian parents just seem like such a minority because the number of Libertarians is already a small portion of the population.

A lot of people think that women become Libertarians after they have kids for that reason. I don't want to go into that with you. I'll just say, mothers want alot more respect that a single whore. That does not mean some mothers are not whores, and it sure as hell does not mean they are not idiots.  :lol:  Like I said joy, this is not aimed at you.
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2006, 02:06:23 PM »

I've decided this world is too horrible to bring a child into. Maybe after I've lived in NH a few years and we manage to pry a few freedoms back from the jaws of the State...
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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2006, 02:33:20 PM »

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I've decided this world is too horrible to bring a child into. Maybe after I've lived in NH a few years and we manage to pry a few freedoms back from the jaws of the State...
i feel the same way
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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2006, 03:11:41 PM »

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libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids
I believe this argument is known as a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2006, 04:23:56 PM »

I don't have kids yet, and I haven't fully made up my mind if I want any at all. Nothing really to do with Libertarianism, but my main reason against having kids is my own PERSONAL freedom. I want to be able to do what I want when I want, without worrying about being responsible for another human being.
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2006, 04:53:54 PM »

My wife used to be libertarian, and I am newly libertarian.  I bring up the topic from time to time and she simply says:
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libertarianism is a philosophy for people without kids

So, the question is, do you have kids?  Is she right?
I'm only 20, of course I have no kids, not ready to settle down yet.
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2006, 05:40:58 PM »

I don't have kids, but I do plan on it when I'm out of school.
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Re: Libertarians are people without kids?
« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2006, 07:19:45 PM »

35, no kids. Not plannin on having any.
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2006, 09:44:26 PM »

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I've decided this world is too horrible to bring a child into. Maybe after I've lived in NH a few years and we manage to pry a few freedoms back from the jaws of the State...
i feel the same way

Many American slaves thought the same way.  Some even killed their kids is they would not have to live in a world without freedom.
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