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Which of the following options is the most probable future for the United States in the next five decades?

Re-emergence of liberty focused ideas and actions, leading up to a worldwide technological and economic paradigm shift.
- 4 (15.4%)
Continuation of the decline of moral and economical liberties for individuals and groups, leading to a worldwide economic decline.
- 7 (26.9%)
Clash of the 'fates' (Rebellion, Social Decohension, and rapid rise of tyranny in certain locales).
- 7 (26.9%)
A technological singularity.
- 3 (11.5%)
December 12, 2012 ends it anyways.
- 0 (0%)
Alternative explanation(s) I wish to present.
- 5 (19.2%)

Total Members Voted: 7


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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2008, 08:26:48 PM »

So you're saying we need computers and automobiles to grow seedlings and replant forests. The fuck?

If we want to compute the optimal dispersal patterns (computers) and transport the needed fertilizers and biomass(es).
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #46 on: August 06, 2008, 08:27:41 PM »

So you're saying we need computers and automobiles to grow seedlings and replant forests. The fuck?

If we want to compute the optimal dispersal patterns (computers) and transport the needed fertilizers and biomass(es).

You're making it unnecessarily complicated, hun.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #47 on: August 06, 2008, 08:38:28 PM »

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139. And note this important difference: It is conceivable that our environmental problems (for example) may some day be settled through a rational, comprehensive plan, but if this happens it will be only because it is in the long-term interest of the system to solve these problems. But it is NOT in the interest of the system to preserve freedom or small-group autonomy. On the contrary, it is in the interest of the system to bring human behavior under control to the greatest possible extent. Thus, while practical considerations may eventually force the system to take a rational, prudent approach to environmental problems, equally practical considerations will force the system to regulate human behavior ever more closely (preferably by indirect means that will disguise the encroachment on freedom.) This isn't just our opinion. Eminent social scientists (e.g. James Q. Wilson) have stressed the importance of "socializing" people more effectively.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2008, 08:40:41 PM »

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139. And note this important difference: It is conceivable that our environmental problems (for example) may some day be settled through a rational, comprehensive plan, but if this happens it will be only because it is in the long-term interest of the system to solve these problems. But it is NOT in the interest of the system to preserve freedom or small-group autonomy. On the contrary, it is in the interest of the system to bring human behavior under control to the greatest possible extent. Thus, while practical considerations may eventually force the system to take a rational, prudent approach to environmental problems, equally practical considerations will force the system to regulate human behavior ever more closely (preferably by indirect means that will disguise the encroachment on freedom.) This isn't just our opinion. Eminent social scientists (e.g. James Q. Wilson) have stressed the importance of "socializing" people more effectively.

New age unnamed author is not valid. Gimme empirical studies from a named source.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2008, 08:43:23 PM »

Bridget, did you ever gain any weight?
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #50 on: August 06, 2008, 08:46:07 PM »

New age unnamed author is not valid.
New age  :D

It's by FC....the Freedom Club.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #51 on: August 06, 2008, 08:47:40 PM »

New age unnamed author is not valid.
New age  :D

It's by FC....the Freedom Club.

More or less New Age. Thanks.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #52 on: August 06, 2008, 08:48:34 PM »

Gooooooogle. Goooooogle.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #53 on: August 06, 2008, 08:51:11 PM »

Gooooooogle. Goooooogle.

Not my job.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #54 on: August 06, 2008, 08:52:56 PM »

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Taors

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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #55 on: August 06, 2008, 09:16:05 PM »

Gooooooogle. Goooooogle.

Not my job.

Don't be like that.

Remember when she freaked out when Lee wanted to ask her a couple of questions?
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #56 on: August 06, 2008, 09:17:19 PM »

Gooooooogle. Goooooogle.

Not my job.

Don't be like that.

Remember when she freaked out when Lee wanted to ask her a couple of questions?

I think she just needs to cuddle. With me.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #57 on: August 06, 2008, 09:17:45 PM »

Gooooooogle. Goooooogle.

Not my job.

Don't be like that.

Remember when she freaked out when Lee wanted to ask her a couple of questions?

I think she just needs to cuddle. With me.

Too bony.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #58 on: August 06, 2008, 11:09:20 PM »

I picked "other," since what comes in the future is usually something totally unexpected. Probably, some other culture will emerge to overshadow the US, although we likely won't even realize it--any more than the Greeks and Romans realized their own cultures were in decline until it was long gone.

There is an evolutionary process at work. Those societies that flourish are the ones that allow the greatest freedom to produce. The socialists may not like it, but government economic controls thwart economic growth. Learn it, or lose out.
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Re: Lets play 'Karnak.'
« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2008, 11:41:46 AM »

I picked "other," since what comes in the future is usually something totally unexpected. Probably, some other culture will emerge to overshadow the US, although we likely won't even realize it--any more than the Greeks and Romans realized their own cultures were in decline until it was long gone.

There is an evolutionary process at work. Those societies that flourish are the ones that allow the greatest freedom to produce. The socialists may not like it, but government economic controls thwart economic growth. Learn it, or lose out.

You don't think we'll realize it?  I think I realize it right now.
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