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Title: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Alex Libman on April 27, 2008, 07:04:08 AM
From The Times (UK) -- Britons kidnapped in Iraq are ‘held by Iran’ (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/iraq/article3822830.ece) --

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Five British hostages who were kidnapped in Iraq (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_hostages_in_Iraq#United_Kingdom) almost a year ago are being held inside Iran by Revolutionary Guards (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_the_Guardians_of_the_Islamic_Revolution), according to two separate sources in the Middle East and London.

The hostages were handed over to the Revolutionary Guards by their Iraqi kidnappers last November, the sources believe. One of the sources said they were being held in the western Iranian city of Hamadan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamadan).

If confirmed, the involvement of Revolutionary Guards would be seen as evidence that senior figures in the Iranian government had backed the decision to hold them in the country.

However, British officials said that while there had been rumours that the five were in Iran, they had seen no evidence to support the idea.

The hostages are said to be in good physical shape but spending much of their time in solitary confinement.

According to one of the sources, they are under the control of Mohammad Safaei, 41, a senior Revolutionary Guard colonel who was previously in charge of special operations in the southern Iraqi city of Basra.

The hostages were kidnapped in Baghdad last May in an attempt to force the Americans to release Qais al-Khazaali, an Iraqi militia leader said to be close to the Revolutionary Guards.

Khazaali was apparently being groomed by Iran to take control of a breakaway faction of the Mahdi Army, a Shi’ite militia, that would be compliant with Tehran. A former chief spokesman for the Mahdi Army, Khazaali was arrested by US troops after masterminding a raid inside a base in which five US soldiers were killed. The Americans have refused to release al-Khazaali in exchange for the British hostages.

One of the sources, who has close links to the Revolutionary Guard, said the captors were looking for a face-saving way of freeing them. They have suggested the hostages write to church leaders in the UK asking for assistance in gaining their release, the source said.

The five were abducted from the Iraqi finance ministry, where one of them, Peter Moore, a computer specialist, was teaching data-processing. The other four were his bodyguards.

The suggestion that the hostages are in Hamadan follows contradictory claims earlier this month that they were in Tehran. This is the first time it has been claimed they are in the hands of Revolutionary Guards. One of the sources has previously proved to be a reliable source of information about them.


Also, the she-Clinton has been raising the issue as well:

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Don't get me wrong, I-ran is one of the worst countries in the world, and I personally don't care if ten million Iranians die to turn it into the Persian version of Chile, but after all the reasons we have to distrust our own government, not the least of which is the complete strategic incompetence in I-rack, another war is a major no-no...  We know Iranians are being very careful not to give the U.S. an excuse, so if there is going to be a war some "false flag" provocation may be required to manufacture consent...
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Taors on April 27, 2008, 10:57:28 AM
Absolutely. All of this has been prophesied in the past. There's no escaping it.
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: YixilTesiphon on April 27, 2008, 04:01:51 PM
Unlikely. Feds are dumb, but I don't think they're that dumb.
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Taors on April 27, 2008, 04:23:03 PM
Unlikely. Feds are dumb, but I don't think they're that dumb.

It's not about smart or dumb, it's about the agenda.
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: YixilTesiphon on April 27, 2008, 04:49:53 PM
Unlikely. Feds are dumb, but I don't think they're that dumb.

It's not about smart or dumb, it's about the agenda.

If the dollar collapses, their power goes with it. That's the only reasonable outcome of a war with Iran.

Don't assume that just because they're evil they're evil geniuses.
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Taors on April 27, 2008, 05:57:55 PM
Unlikely. Feds are dumb, but I don't think they're that dumb.

It's not about smart or dumb, it's about the agenda.

If the dollar collapses, their power goes with it. That's the only reasonable outcome of a war with Iran.

Don't assume that just because they're evil they're evil geniuses.

So it hasn't crossed your mind that uh...hmmm...mebbe, just mebbe...wait for it...WAIT FOR IT!

That they DO want the dollar to collapse?
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Alex Libman on April 27, 2008, 07:04:58 PM
The American people hold their wealth in dollars.

Some people and governments around the world hold U.S. dollars as well.

But the American government holds its wealth in aircraft carriers and nukes and all other functional parts that make up The System.

So, while people need the U.S. dollar to hold value, the U.S. government itself does not - it has a lot more debts than liquid assets, and an impoverished populace would be easier to expand control over.
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: hellbilly on April 29, 2008, 12:16:50 AM
Beats me. But if these guys would bother to read The Art of War, they might just grow some balls and complete the agenda.

This "war" is some bizarre politically correct version of an invasion. It's a "friendlier, healthier" - softer and more tolerant sort of war. Truly American.

Not sayin I support it. I don't. But either do what needs to be done or leave. Scuttle the ships on back home and give your apologies, or just fuckin open up the oil fields already. Harsh, but many people are destined to die in those countries anyway- whether it comes from a gung-ho stray bullet or the next wacky suicide bomber. Been that way for centuries, so what's the difference?
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Taors on April 29, 2008, 09:22:16 AM
Beats me. But if these guys would bother to read The Art of War, they might just grow some balls and complete the agenda.

This "war" is some bizarre politically correct version of an invasion. It's a "friendlier, healthier" - softer and more tolerant sort of war. Truly American.

Not sayin I support it. I don't. But either do what needs to be done or leave. Scuttle the ships on back home and give your apologies, or just fuckin open up the oil fields already. Harsh, but many people are destined to die in those countries anyway- whether it comes from a gung-ho stray bullet or the next wacky suicide bomber. Been that way for centuries, so what's the difference?

To live another day can be the ultimate difference.
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Alex Libman on April 29, 2008, 11:41:23 AM
To live another day can be the ultimate difference.

Not if I got a hold of `em!  I'd start by taking a scalpel, chisel, and hammer and playing a modernization of a little game the Vikings used to play.  It's called "pull out the neo-con's ribs and pierce its limbs with them without letting it bleed to death or go into shock".  Then, when it's just a screaming bag of organs hanging from a spine, the real fun begins!  Survive another day?  Hah!  It'll be praying not to survive another second!
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Taors on April 29, 2008, 07:59:03 PM
To live another day can be the ultimate difference.

Not if I got a hold of `em!  I'd start by taking a scalpel, chisel, and hammer and playing a modernization of a little game the Vikings used to play.  It's called "pull out the neo-con's ribs and pierce its limbs with them without letting it bleed to death or go into shock".  Then, when it's just a screaming bag of organs hanging from a spine, the real fun begins!  Survive another day?  Hah!  It'll be praying not to survive another second!


I know in real life you're really just a big, soft teddy bear...so your lies don't phase me.
Title: Re: I-fucking-ran!
Post by: Alex Libman on April 29, 2008, 10:01:36 PM
Most executioners throughout history were big, soft teddy bears under their cloak and mask.

(http://www.alexlibman.com/__imagebucket2/executioner.jpg)

People who're into salad and ramlösa (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raml%C3%B6sa) just typically don't have an overblown sadistic instinct for some reason, perhaps because they suppress it or project it to something else.  People who're into beer and steak typically do.

Anyways, neo-con torture and execution fantasies should be sprinkled on in small amounts to spice up a thread, not hijack it.  Let's just make them dig their own graves and shoot them plain and simple?  :evil: