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Well how should they be handled?

Life sentence, no chance of parole [private or otherwise]
- 7 (18.9%)
Execution [???]
- 1 (2.7%)
Restitution [Pay X for Y, time served, kthxbi]
- 15 (40.5%)
Leave it to the family and/or victims
- 11 (29.7%)
Ostracism
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ladyattis

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How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« on: March 06, 2007, 03:35:20 PM »

I saw a youtube clip about Australia wanting to extend its sex offender registry to past cases and perpetrators and I have to wonder if any one realizes there is a fine line between justice and revenge, and to whether we have yet to cross it...

Your thoughts?

-- Bridget
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ReverendRyan

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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2007, 05:13:32 PM »

iT WAS CROSSED A LONG TIME AGO.
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Bill Brasky

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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2007, 09:22:50 PM »

Tough question, so I'll just confuse the issue further.

Heres what I DON'T agree with:  When the bastards get caught red-handed and they do six months for being a rapist of ANYONE, minor or adult, that's just fucking bullshit. 

Solid case?  Do some time.  Then, walk, I guess.  Once you've served your time, just like any other (violent) crime against any other people.  Maybe some probation.  I don't see any other "violent" offenders out there regestering their whereabouts for the remainder of their lives. 
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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2007, 10:17:25 PM »

Well, there is the argument that murderers should be killed, rapists should be castrated, and other criminals should give restitution. I think that's a tad bit extreme.
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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #4 on: March 07, 2007, 03:23:21 PM »

Pedophiles and rapists are two different things.
A rapist is someone who has used violent force, usually.
But a pedophile could just be a 19y/o who has sex with a 17y/o.

I think that every criminal case should be decided on it's own.
I hate these blanket laws like mandatory minimums. One size does not fit all.
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ReverendRyan

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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #5 on: March 07, 2007, 04:18:27 PM »

Put simply,
Pedophilia is thoughts, not actions.
A child molester is a rapist.
Anything involving the gray area between onset of puberty and AOC should be judged individually to determine informed consent.

Therefore, your question is all about rapists, and has nothing to do with pedophilia, a thoughtcrime.

Restitution, determined between the offender and victim and mediated appropriately, consisting of money, incarceration, charitable work, etc., or a combination of them, should be decided upon to provide reasonable recompense to the victim (for example, incarceration if it incites a phobia or a trust fund to provide for later counselling) as well as give some assurance that the offender will no longer be dangerous (by way of counselling and/or charity), but be primarily directed towards restoring the victim to their physical, mental, and financial state prior to the offense.

Damn, didn't realize I turned one idea into one sentence and was able to do it with accurate grammar!
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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #6 on: March 07, 2007, 06:02:50 PM »

I really want to see some numbers on all these supposed pedophiles and sex offenders swarming our school grounds. I mean is the problem really THAT bad?
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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2007, 11:07:19 PM »

I saw a youtube clip about Australia wanting to extend its sex offender registry to past cases and perpetrators and I have to wonder if any one realizes there is a fine line between justice and revenge, and to whether we have yet to cross it...

Your thoughts?

-- Bridget

But revenge IS part of justice. A proper system of justice ensures that the revenge is extracted on the right party.
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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2007, 12:11:21 PM »

But revenge IS part of justice. A proper system of justice ensures that the revenge is extracted on the right party.

How did you come to that conclusion?
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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2007, 12:27:04 PM »

There's an important distinction here that you all are not making.  A pedophile is not a child molester.  Pedophile just means you have the attraction to children.  Some people are smart enough to control themselves, some aren't.  Those who aren't are child molesters. 

And Puke, I'm not sure what it is, but there's a different term for adults who are attracted to teenagers.  So no, a 19 year old having sex with a 17 year old is not a pedophile.  It's not even stat rape in most places.  No one's going to jail for that.
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ladyattis

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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #10 on: March 08, 2007, 12:33:25 PM »

Understand when I say pedophile, I mean practicing pedophile. Not some stupid 40 something that faps off to lolicon pictures.

-- Bridget
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ReverendRyan

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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #11 on: March 08, 2007, 12:34:15 PM »

There's an important distinction here that you all are not making.  A pedophile is not a child molester.  Pedophile just means you have the attraction to children.  Some people are smart enough to control themselves, some aren't.  Those who aren't are child molesters. 

I already said that....see above....
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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #12 on: March 08, 2007, 12:41:35 PM »

There's an important distinction here that you all are not making.  A pedophile is not a child molester.  Pedophile just means you have the attraction to children.  Some people are smart enough to control themselves, some aren't.  Those who aren't are child molesters. 

I already said that....see above....

Sorry, I'm a skimmer. 
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goten1201

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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2007, 06:12:07 AM »

PUT EM ON THE MOON!!
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rah62

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Re: How should pedophiles and rapists be handled?
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2007, 11:41:00 AM »

PUT EM ON THE MOON!!

I suppose this would be the time for someone to make the obligatory joke about Uranus.
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