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How long until NATO(the US) invades Iran?
« on: November 05, 2011, 01:49:33 PM »

I ask because It seems like this is going to occur soon unless 95% of congress simultaneously dies of a brain hemorrhage, are replaced by peace candidates and then somehow gain relevance to the decision making process of the whitehouse.
Also, I'm not exactly an expert on foreign relations and am woefully under informed in this topic.
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Re: How long until NATO(the US) invades Iran?
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2011, 01:58:58 PM »

I was literally just about to create a new poll which allowed people to vote on this question. You read my mind!!!

I say its next year during Obama's campaign to "strengthen" his credentials on national security.

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« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2011, 07:38:30 PM »

Honestly I once thought we'd do it.  Now I don't think it will ever happen.  At most the world will give Israel the nod to take out their nuclear programs like they did with Iraq.  But I don't think there will be a full scale invasion.  Not enough resources in Iran.  They have a pseudo-democracy.  And the people there are more secular than their government.  It's more likely that the CIA would foment a democratic revolution that removes the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini from having dictatorial control.
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Re: How long until NATO(the US) invades Iran?
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2011, 08:18:15 PM »

^ Good stuff

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Re: How long until NATO(the US) invades Iran?
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2011, 12:09:54 PM »

Honestly I once thought we'd do it.  Now I don't think it will ever happen.  At most the world will give Israel the nod to take out their nuclear programs like they did with Iraq.  But I don't think there will be a full scale invasion.  Not enough resources in Iran.  They have a pseudo-democracy.  And the people there are more secular than their government.  It's more likely that the CIA would foment a democratic revolution that removes the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini from having dictatorial control.

Ordinarily I would agree but, there has been a real ramp up in executive power over the years. Obama has already invaded more countries then I can remember the complicated Arabic names of and the media has stepped up the Iran disinformation lately. It's worrying to say the least.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2011, 12:56:49 PM »

Honestly I once thought we'd do it.  Now I don't think it will ever happen.  At most the world will give Israel the nod to take out their nuclear programs like they did with Iraq.  But I don't think there will be a full scale invasion.  Not enough resources in Iran.  They have a pseudo-democracy.  And the people there are more secular than their government.  It's more likely that the CIA would foment a democratic revolution that removes the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini from having dictatorial control.

I just want to clarify that I honestly wouldn't see it as a bad thing if the CIA were to successfully foment a democratic revolution in Iran.  If Iran had a true republican democracy they would have a lot more freedom and be a lot more peaceful towards their neighbors than they are now with their "Supreme Leader" religious dictator who is actually in charge of their pseudo-democracy.
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Re: How long until NATO(the US) invades Iran?
« Reply #6 on: November 12, 2011, 11:34:55 AM »

Honestly I once thought we'd do it.  Now I don't think it will ever happen.  At most the world will give Israel the nod to take out their nuclear programs like they did with Iraq.  But I don't think there will be a full scale invasion.  Not enough resources in Iran.  They have a pseudo-democracy.  And the people there are more secular than their government.  It's more likely that the CIA would foment a democratic revolution that removes the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini from having dictatorial control.

I just want to clarify that I honestly wouldn't see it as a bad thing if the CIA were to successfully foment a democratic revolution in Iran.  If Iran had a true republican democracy they would have a lot more freedom and be a lot more peaceful towards their neighbors than they are now with their "Supreme Leader" religious dictator who is actually in charge of their pseudo-democracy.
Unfortunately it never works out that way.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2011, 12:26:05 PM »

Honestly I once thought we'd do it.  Now I don't think it will ever happen.  At most the world will give Israel the nod to take out their nuclear programs like they did with Iraq.  But I don't think there will be a full scale invasion.  Not enough resources in Iran.  They have a pseudo-democracy.  And the people there are more secular than their government.  It's more likely that the CIA would foment a democratic revolution that removes the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini from having dictatorial control.

I just want to clarify that I honestly wouldn't see it as a bad thing if the CIA were to successfully foment a democratic revolution in Iran.  If Iran had a true republican democracy they would have a lot more freedom and be a lot more peaceful towards their neighbors than they are now with their "Supreme Leader" religious dictator who is actually in charge of their pseudo-democracy.
Unfortunately it never works out that way.
Honestly I think they may have already tried and failed a couple years ago with that green banner protest.
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Re: How long until NATO(the US) invades Iran?
« Reply #8 on: November 12, 2011, 07:25:55 PM »

Honestly I once thought we'd do it.  Now I don't think it will ever happen.  At most the world will give Israel the nod to take out their nuclear programs like they did with Iraq.  But I don't think there will be a full scale invasion.  Not enough resources in Iran.  They have a pseudo-democracy.  And the people there are more secular than their government.  It's more likely that the CIA would foment a democratic revolution that removes the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini from having dictatorial control.


Man Sam, I hope you're not advocating a strike on Iran.  I don't think the people are scarier.  I think its the fundamentalists that are scarry and I don't think most people are fundies.
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Re: How long until NATO(the US) invades Iran?
« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2011, 12:18:43 AM »

Honestly I once thought we'd do it.  Now I don't think it will ever happen.  At most the world will give Israel the nod to take out their nuclear programs like they did with Iraq.  But I don't think there will be a full scale invasion.  Not enough resources in Iran.  They have a pseudo-democracy.  And the people there are more secular than their government.  It's more likely that the CIA would foment a democratic revolution that removes the Supreme Leader Ayatollah Khomeini from having dictatorial control.


Man Sam, I hope you're not advocating a strike on Iran.  I don't think the people are scarier.  I think its the fundamentalists that are scarry and I don't think most people are fundies.
I wouldn't feel bad if a strike against Iranian nuclear facilities occurred.
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Re: How long until NATO(the US) invades Iran?
« Reply #10 on: November 13, 2011, 10:23:33 AM »

I'd prefer no strike.  It won't accomplish anything other than getting more people pissed off at the United States.  Plus, innocent people will be killed.
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« Reply #11 on: November 13, 2011, 06:46:16 PM »

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I wouldn't feel bad if a strike against Iranian nuclear facilities occurred.

Ya, of course no civilians could possibly die from such a strike.

Of course, there won't be massive blow back.

I'm glad that there's indisputable evidence from our reliable friends in the government indicating that Iran even has a nuclear program.

I'm also glad that those heathen Muslims won't get nuclear weapons. Only good Christian countries and their client states can have nukes.

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« Reply #12 on: November 13, 2011, 07:17:43 PM »

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I wouldn't feel bad if a strike against Iranian nuclear facilities occurred.

Ya, of course no civilians could possibly die from such a strike.

Of course, there won't be massive blow back.

I'm glad that there's indisputable evidence from our reliable friends in the government indicating that Iran even has a nuclear program.

I'm also glad that those heathen Muslims won't get nuclear weapons. Only good Christian countries and their client states can have nukes.
Uh ok, I don't understand what you're talking about.
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