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Where did you spend your K-12 years?

Government (Public) Schools
- 39 (58.2%)
Private School (Religious)
- 9 (13.4%)
Private School (Secular)
- 6 (9%)
Homeschool
- 3 (4.5%)
Combo (Explain)
- 10 (14.9%)

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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #30 on: March 08, 2007, 04:57:41 PM »

I plan on just saving money for now and starting businesses, then going to college in a few years when I'm like 22 or so.

What is it you enjoy doing?
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #31 on: March 08, 2007, 05:05:34 PM »

I plan on just saving money for now and starting businesses, then going to college in a few years when I'm like 22 or so.

What is it you enjoy doing?


Hanging out with my friends.
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #32 on: March 08, 2007, 05:09:58 PM »

Government school until I dropped out in 10th grade. I never liked being told what to do. Smoking pot and getting expelled and prosecuted by the state probably played a major role in my distaste for government.
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #33 on: March 08, 2007, 06:27:47 PM »

Government schools until graduation. I'm still in a public school as part of a state university, but what the hell they got the corner market on this shit. Frankly, I find it all stifling since new ideas and new ways to do things are often slow to catch on or even banned by so-called educators in government schools. It's a sad thing really, because most of my learning is outside of school, so the rest of the time I am simply coming in to take my attendance, my test, and extra credit.

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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #34 on: March 09, 2007, 12:12:46 AM »

I blame public education for most of society's ills, including:

  • Obesity - all people are born with a natural inclination to enjoy at least some athletics, but not all will excel in a socialized military-inspired one-size-fits-all gym class.  Less athletic kids come associate exercise with embarrassment, and avoid it for the rest of their life.

  • Poverty - your prime years are wasted learning things that may not necessarily be useful employment skills, and by the time you graduate the psychological doors are closed; the only thing you've learned that life is unfair, so fuck it.

  • Irrational Exuberance - the dominant value the schools reinforce is the importance of being "cool", and the idea that material status symbols can help.  Everybody talks about how cool your sneakers or your car is, no one talks about assets that appreciate in value.

  • Depression & Suicide - when no one thinks you're cool, the preprogrammed emotional response is that of misery and desperation, even if you have everything to live for, based on the values enforced during schooling.

  • Dependence - they might pay lip-service to the idea to clear their conscience, but schools don't teach kids to direct their own studies or acquire information as it becomes relevant to them.  If they didn't teach us that in school, the subconscious programming dictates, it must not be very important.

  • Gullibility - authority is always right, even when it comes from an asshole teacher you have no rational reason to respect.  Don't pursue the truth, pursue the lesson plan.  Disobedience is punished and psychologically discouraged, far more so than stupidity.

  • Violence - if you've ever been to a second-rate public school, you'll know what I'm talking about.

  • Lack of Creativity - also self-explanatory.

  • Low Birth Rate - shame on you for not being able to take care of an egg!  You'll make a horrible parent!  (No matter what the teacher says, that's the subconscious message.)  And there are many additional psychological reasons for this as well, the more socialist the school system the less fertile the society.

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  • Nationalism - no matter the country, history and literature are always taught from a specific point of view.  You're always lucky enough to be born in a country that produced the world's greatest poets, or religious leaders, or most dignified folk culture, or whatever.  If you were born in Iceland, braving cold climate is important, if you're born in Russia its conquest of continues territory no matter what you do with it, in China its population, in Egypt its hitting the bronze age first, in Japan it's all about aggressiveness, in India it's all about compassion.  This self-centric attitude doesn't only legitimize the power structure and prepare the public for nationalist war, it also creates many of the geopolitical inequalities that exist today.  This would still exist without government-controlled education, but to a far lesser degree.
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #35 on: March 09, 2007, 12:20:32 AM »

Good observation, AlexLibman. Nicely put.
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #36 on: March 09, 2007, 01:53:55 AM »

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* Obesity - all people are born with a natural inclination to enjoy at least some athletics, but not all will excel in a socialized military-inspired one-size-fits-all gym class.  Less athletic kids come associate exercise with embarrassment, and avoid it for the rest of their life.

Agreed. Even though I'm a skinny fuck, I have never participated in ANY type of athletics (and can't catch anything, even the most catchadelic thing a human mind could imagine) because of this.
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #37 on: March 09, 2007, 07:42:58 AM »

I blame public education for most of society's ills, including:
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Excellent points. Public education is certainly one of the core structures that have to be torn down if society really expects to have a free--and HEALTHY!--society.

-Wayne
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #38 on: March 09, 2007, 11:05:37 AM »

Fucking great list AlexLibman  :)

....perfect propaganda. What are the odds my principal would mind if I posted this list around?
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #39 on: March 09, 2007, 12:00:25 PM »

Fucking great list AlexLibman  :)

....perfect propaganda. What are the odds my principal would mind if I posted this list around?

Start preparing for your 2 week vacation. :P
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #40 on: March 09, 2007, 09:09:05 PM »

I don't mind but you might not want to quote that list directly, it needs to be cleaned up by someone who's sober.  To streamline this process, I've dumped it to an article on the FTL wiki.  O, mighty Wiki spirits, I humbly summon thee, do thy magic!  Create structure and grammar where previously there was none!
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Re: Government or Private Education?
« Reply #41 on: March 10, 2007, 05:57:47 PM »

I spent kindergarten through 12th grade in public schools, but I went to exceptionally good public schools (I was in the gifted and talented programs and went to Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology for high school).  For college I chose to go to the University of Chicago which makes all that look like a joke.
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« Reply #42 on: March 10, 2007, 06:02:11 PM »

I spent kindergarten through 12th grade in public schools, but I went to exceptionally good public schools (I was in the gifted and talented programs and went to Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology for high school).  For college I chose to go to the University of Chicago which makes all that look like a joke.

So that's where you get it.
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