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Pick the one that is the closest to the meme that first comes into your mind when you think of the concept.  God is ...

Love
- 6 (10.7%)
Power
- 4 (7.1%)
Nature
- 14 (25%)
Safety
- 1 (1.8%)
Mystery
- 4 (7.1%)
Ancestry
- 0 (0%)
Civilization
- 0 (0%)
Superstition
- 15 (26.8%)
Josh's Dad
- 2 (3.6%)
/dev/null
- 10 (17.9%)

Total Members Voted: 32


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« Reply #30 on: October 06, 2009, 04:49:42 AM »

In hindsight, I really don't like all this animosity toward God.  Having grown out of simplistic atheism, it now seems very shallow and juvenile.

God is an ancient personification of natural force, which in modern understanding can be can be broken down into universal, planetary, chemical, organic, biological, and cultural aspects of evolution, the latter of which can include theories on matters such as law, economics, and politics.


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« Reply #31 on: October 06, 2009, 12:37:07 PM »

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"God is a concept, by which we measure our pain."

John Lennon.
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« Reply #32 on: October 06, 2009, 02:04:47 PM »

Because that fiction (which was pretty well-written by the standards of its time, actually) sold over 5+ billion copies in 2,400+ languages, popularizing the idea of God over many centuries.  Some of its intended sequels and fan fiction (Koran, Book of Mormon, etc) also dominate the list of most influential books of all time.

By that measure, it won't be too long before the Da Vinci code is accepted truth. Wait, I bet Harry Potter will become the new bible within my lifetime. Sorry, no more time to chat. I have to pack for my pilgrimage to Hogwarts.
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« Reply #33 on: October 06, 2009, 02:29:34 PM »

God is a gap concept. We do not know how something works or what it is so we assign god to it. Then, we do not know why some things happen to us so to hopefully enable emotional stability we invent a god.

I'm not arguing that religion isn't a fiction, I'm arguing that it has its place in the culture we're all a part of.  Human civilization is a chicken-and-an-egg paradox, and it's an objective historical fact that religious faith filled the gap, allowing social order to be enforced before it could be scientifically understood - and it's not really understood to this day.


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Huh?  When did you ever say anything coherent on this issue?  I've written bits about religious functionalism in my emerging philosophy of "evolutionary pragmatism" for a long time now...


"God is a concept, by which we measure our pain."

I like that idea, since for many atheists the concept of God suddenly resurfaces when they're experiencing a heart attack, or something similar, and for some hypochondriac atheists the slightest panic can lead to "oh God, oh God, oh God", even if it's not out loud, as it most often isn't - that feeling of complete and total helplessness and the impossibility of reason in light of mortal terror.  Well, whatever that concept was when you were having a heart attack, "real" or not, still exists when your heart is beating normally.


By that measure, it won't be too long before the Da Vinci code is accepted truth. Wait, I bet Harry Potter will become the new bible within my lifetime. Sorry, no more time to chat. I have to pack for my pilgrimage to Hogwarts.

The mind-share of those books is minuscule compared to the major religions, and taken far less seriously, and is guaranteed to pass soon enough.  In evolutionary pragmatism, the competitive advantage of a trait validates its desirability: we have two arms and two legs because that design has stood the test of time.  Pragmatic thinking can lead people to make themselves aware of those much smaller and weaker cultural trends that you've mentioned, like if you're trying to impress your would-be mother-in-law and she's a zealous Dan Brown fanatic, but the relevance of religion remains tremendous.  Secular cultures haven't even learned to breed sustainably yet!
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« Reply #34 on: October 06, 2009, 02:43:35 PM »

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« Reply #35 on: October 06, 2009, 06:28:14 PM »

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« Reply #36 on: October 19, 2009, 10:00:16 PM »

...jim croce.

Your idea of God is a guitar-playing Joo?!



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« Reply #37 on: October 20, 2009, 07:00:32 AM »

of course it's not an idea.  He is god.
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« Reply #38 on: October 20, 2009, 08:58:22 AM »

You non-Muslims are all polytheists, atheists included!  Someone might be a prophet from God (for fun and profit), but no one can be God!  God is a metaphor, dumbass!
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« Reply #39 on: October 20, 2009, 11:40:45 AM »

Our postman is an old woman...

Well yeah, he is now...
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« Reply #40 on: October 24, 2009, 02:18:13 PM »

[youtube=425,350]ylAsZQyOBMk[/youtube]

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« Reply #41 on: October 25, 2009, 03:31:05 PM »

In hindsight, I really don't like all this animosity toward God. 

The animosity is towards what people do because of religion, or in the name of their god.

There is no animosity toward any "god", since an atheist cannot be angry at something which they believe does not exist.
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« Reply #42 on: October 25, 2009, 11:17:31 PM »

You can feel animosity towards a concept, which is what I was sensing here (including in some instances from myself - yeah, I'm full of contradictions on this matter).

Or is comparing something to a blurry micropenis (I'm Russian) somehow a good thing?  :roll:

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« Reply #43 on: October 29, 2009, 12:11:40 AM »

[youtube=425,350]s_E4haW1upw[/youtube]

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« Reply #44 on: October 29, 2009, 12:42:16 AM »

That's hilarious.
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