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Title: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: AlexLibman on December 16, 2006, 04:34:08 AM: With 16 days to go, 678 people have so far have signed (http://www.pledgebank.com/First1000) the First 1000 pledge (http://freestateproject.org/first1000/)...

EDIT: just ~24 hours later, the sign-up count jumped to 701!
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Ecolitan on December 16, 2006, 04:36:36 AM: I've signed and I'll be moving eventually pledge or no pledge. I answered between 75-99% just because sometimes shit happens. I don't much like to use absolutes. They're very rare.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: cerpntaxt on December 16, 2006, 04:39:05 AM: I want to finish school here (California) before I move (4 years).
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: error on December 16, 2006, 05:46:05 AM: I'm already packing my bags!
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on December 16, 2006, 11:16:55 AM: "Signed. The odds of me keeping the pledge are over 75% but not 100%."
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Lindsey on December 16, 2006, 02:24:27 PM: "Won't sign, becaue the odds of me keeping the pledge would be less than 25%."
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Charles on December 16, 2006, 10:53:48 PM: Same as Lindsey for me. I want to finish undergrad here.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Soundwave on December 16, 2006, 10:58:12 PM: There is no "signed, and already moved" option.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: AlexLibman on December 17, 2006, 01:30:56 AM: Quote from: Soundwave on December 16, 2006, 10:58:12 PM
There is no "signed, and already moved" option.

Yeah, I noticed last night and tried to edit the poll to insert that option, but it won't let me for some reason. I figured it reached the limit for the number of choices, but it worked when I re-tried appending it just now.

Quote from: Cyro on December 16, 2006, 05:52:07 AM
Kinda hard to get to New Hampshire from the UK.

If all else fails, you can hide in a crate of Mini Coopers (http://www.epinions.com/compare.html?submitted_form=side_by_side&Compare=Compare&prod680300155777=on&prod680300221313=on&previous_page=%2Fauto_Make-2004_MINI_Cooper%2Fdisplay_~full_specs) assembled in Oxford. :lol:

(http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:ITzfdu5USWladM:http://www.r4us.co.uk/toys/product_images/Mini%2520Cooper%2520Pedal%2520car.jpg)
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: error on December 17, 2006, 04:33:51 AM: Signed. I'll be there by the end of 2008 even if hell frezes over!

Forget 25% or 75%. Just get to NH any way you can!
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on December 17, 2006, 05:40:18 AM: Quote from: cerpntaxt on December 16, 2006, 04:39:05 AM
I want to finish school here (California) before I move (4 years).
Same here.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Rebel on December 17, 2006, 01:17:41 PM: I'm making it my job to be in NH by '08.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Taors on December 17, 2006, 01:18:12 PM: I'm going to try my hardest to be there by 2008.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on December 17, 2006, 02:20:23 PM: I'm most likely going to make the move in '07.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 17, 2006, 05:25:25 PM: I'm thinking Nevada in a few years.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 17, 2006, 05:32:19 PM: Quote from: Cyro on December 17, 2006, 05:28:10 PM
Quote from: Bill Brasky on December 17, 2006, 05:25:25 PM
I'm thinking Nevada in a few years.

Remember to check what colours your local bureaucracy approves for painting your house.

Probly wont need to. White is universally accepted in the desert.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: zebraflood on December 18, 2006, 01:53:11 AM: Haven't. Probably won't. Potential perpetual vagabond, take my promises seriously, etc.

Ultimately, I don't see any reason for me to move to NH until I'm ready to "settle down" of sorts. That is, am ready/willing to make that kind of "Okay guys, I'm here" commitment. Which is exactly what the pledge is. More than that, it seems like the pledge is almost "Okay guys, I'm here, now where do you want me?" which I don't think I'll ever be willing to give. Sorry guys, me me me I I I come first. Everyone's number one priority is being happy, just different notions of how to attain it.

If I ever do move to NH, I'll probably just show up on your doorstep one day. I won't be signing any of zee papers.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: error on December 18, 2006, 02:41:09 AM: We want you in NH, of course!

Aside from that, it's up to you what you do.

~~Harassing the bureaucrats~~ Petitioning for a redress of grievances is popular in Keene.

Constructing pro-liberty laws and shooting down anti-liberty laws is popular in Concord and Manchester.

Target practice is popular all over the state...
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Mike Barskey on December 19, 2006, 02:28:01 AM: I didn't vote. There's not an option close enough to my response, which is: I'm considering moving to NH, and when I make my decision I'll pledge, but the 1st 1000 deadline is just too soon for me to gather enough information to decide.

- Mike
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: AlexLibman on December 19, 2006, 10:58:01 PM: Sorry, Mike, there were too many options already. This is the 21st century, ya gotta learn the guesstimate odds. :lol:

Wow, more than 100 sign-ups in the last 3 days... I wonder if this poll was a factor. 8)

Still 213 more needed...
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Taors on December 19, 2006, 11:06:23 PM: Did anyone else get that letter from the FSP?
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Mike Barskey on December 19, 2006, 11:09:13 PM: Quote from: AlexLibman on December 19, 2006, 10:58:01 PM
Sorry, Mike, there were too many options already. This is the 21st century, ya gotta learn the guesstimate odds. :lol:

I wasn't whining, Alex. I was just voicing (typing) my opinion since it wasn't a poll option, wondering if anyone else had similar thoughts. I guess not - at least, not yet. I'm pleasantly surprised to hear there were so many recent pledges to the 1st 1000, even if I am not participating.

- Mike
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: bakerbaker on December 22, 2006, 01:00:05 AM: Quote from: Taors on December 19, 2006, 11:06:23 PM
Did anyone else get that letter from the FSP?

Si.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: error on December 22, 2006, 04:55:29 AM: I still haven't gotten any damn letter from the FSP!
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 22, 2006, 05:15:27 AM: Quote from: zebraflood on December 18, 2006, 01:53:11 AM

If I ever do move to NH, I'll probably just show up on your doorstep one day. I won't be signing any of zee papers.

My doorstep is in Pennsylvania, but once you cross the threshold and close the door, its a completely different universe. Feel free to show up on it. Or throw up on it. Or sit there and whittle a stick, chew a piece of gum, and watch the birdies. They like to shit on my truck.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: sillyperson on December 22, 2006, 05:25:38 PM: Cool. Next time I'm in PA I'm gonna shit on Bill's truck.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: zebraflood on December 22, 2006, 06:37:56 PM: Quote from: Bill Brasky on December 22, 2006, 05:15:27 AM
Quote from: zebraflood on December 18, 2006, 01:53:11 AM

If I ever do move to NH, I'll probably just show up on your doorstep one day. I won't be signing any of zee papers.

My doorstep is in Pennsylvania, but once you cross the threshold and close the door, its a completely different universe. Feel free to show up on it. Or throw up on it. Or sit there and whittle a stick, chew a piece of gum, and watch the birdies. They like to shit on my truck.

I think I'd be into hanging out in your universe for a little while. As long as you promise not to fall in love with me.

In writing. So later I can pull the contract out and be like, "look! look! you signed in blood!"
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: YixilTesiphon on December 22, 2006, 06:46:37 PM: I don't graduate from college until 2010, and I'll almost certainly stay until mid-2011 to do graduate work, so...maybe in 2012 if I can do graduate work at Dartmouth.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 22, 2006, 08:34:31 PM: Quote from: zebraflood on December 22, 2006, 06:37:56 PM
Quote from: Bill Brasky on December 22, 2006, 05:15:27 AM
Quote from: zebraflood on December 18, 2006, 01:53:11 AM

If I ever do move to NH, I'll probably just show up on your doorstep one day. I won't be signing any of zee papers.

My doorstep is in Pennsylvania, but once you cross the threshold and close the door, its a completely different universe. Feel free to show up on it. Or throw up on it. Or sit there and whittle a stick, chew a piece of gum, and watch the birdies. They like to shit on my truck.

I think I'd be into hanging out in your universe for a little while. As long as you promise not to fall in love with me.

In writing. So later I can pull the contract out and be like, "look! look! you signed in blood!"

Love? Nah. That would ruin everything. But I have to sign zee papers? Fine. DGoddard can witness it after he soils my vehicle.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Taors on December 22, 2006, 08:35:02 PM: Are you guys flirting? I can't tell...
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 22, 2006, 08:44:59 PM: Women are mysterious and unpredictable. They could mount you cowgirl style and you still have no clue what their intentions are. You've seen what happens to male praying mantis, right?

Me? Hell yes I'm flirting. Shamelessly. She's got a brain that goes supernova and an exterior that would make DaVinci walk out of his studio in a fit of rage.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Taors on December 22, 2006, 08:47:16 PM: You callin' her hot? Cause she is purdy hot.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 22, 2006, 08:57:38 PM: Yup
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Taors on December 22, 2006, 09:09:35 PM: Zebra, did you delete your myspace? I can't find it.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: zebraflood on December 23, 2006, 12:21:35 AM: Quote from: Taors on December 22, 2006, 09:09:35 PM
Zebra, did you delete your myspace? I can't find it.

Yes. I banished it to the realms of google cache hell. Paradigm shift, of sorts.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Jimmy_Fartpants on December 23, 2006, 01:08:03 AM: Already did my time in New England...so no thanks.

New England sucks as a place to live, and I would happy if I never had to go back to that part of the country ever, much less actually live there.

(If it's not Boston, it's just a wasteland of run down old mill towns & backwoods trash that would make The South blush)
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Taors on December 23, 2006, 01:24:37 AM: Quote from: zebraflood on December 23, 2006, 12:21:35 AM
Quote from: Taors on December 22, 2006, 09:09:35 PM
Zebra, did you delete your myspace? I can't find it.

Yes. I banished it to the realms of google cache hell. Paradigm shift, of sorts.

But you had really hot pictures on there!!
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Bill Brasky on December 23, 2006, 01:46:36 AM: Quote from: zebraflood on December 23, 2006, 12:21:35 AM
Quote from: Taors on December 22, 2006, 09:09:35 PM
Zebra, did you delete your myspace? I can't find it.

Yes. I banished it to the realms of google cache hell. Paradigm shift, of sorts.

(http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/3853/noobq4.jpg)
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Taors on December 23, 2006, 01:47:26 AM: I already miss her myspace profile. :cry:
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: zebraflood on December 23, 2006, 02:34:40 AM: Quote from: Bill Brasky on December 22, 2006, 08:44:59 PM
She's got a brain that goes supernova and an exterior that would make DaVinci walk out of his studio in a fit of rage.

Flattery will get you everywhere.

Dam deedle dee dam dam.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: Porcupine_in_MA on December 23, 2006, 02:45:39 AM: Quote from: Jimmy_Fartpants on December 23, 2006, 01:08:03 AM
Already did my time in New England...so no thanks.

New England sucks as a place to live, and I would happy if I never had to go back to that part of the country ever, much less actually live there.

(If it's not Boston, it's just a wasteland of run down old mill towns & backwoods trash that would make The South blush)

**bows** Resident Native old kin-folk New Englander here and proud of it! We do have run-down old mill towns and we do have plenty of "backwoods" but those folk that live there aren't trash for the most part. By far New England is NO wasteland. You have a good night!
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: coffeeseven on December 27, 2006, 07:02:14 AM: Fartpants I'm not going to link your quote because I don't want to scroll back up and see your avatar. It gave me a fucking seizure the first time I saw it. :P

It's all a matter of perspective. I see a run down town and I see opportunity. Others look at it and say, "why would I want to be there? No one else is there."

For the same reason an artist buys a BLANK canvas. For me it's a no brainer. See you all in '07.
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: sillyperson on December 27, 2006, 11:23:25 AM: Don't forget to join the NHLA so you can be effective once y'all get here!
http://nhliberty.org/join
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: bonerjoe on December 27, 2006, 12:28:39 PM: NHLA/RLC/what's the difference?
Title: Re: Free State Project - First 1000 Pledge
Post by: sillyperson on December 27, 2006, 03:18:53 PM: Quote from: bonerjoe on December 27, 2006, 12:28:39 PM
NHLA/RLC/what's the difference?

NHLA is non-partisan, and is responsible for the infamous NH Legislator Letter Grades (http://www.nhliberty.org/2006ReportCard).
Example: Joel Winters, the first early-moving Free-Stater elected to office, won as a Democrat, and is an active NHLA member.

In contrast, the RLC-NH is mostly about making the NH Republican party "libertarian-lite", ie, by taking homophobic/drug-war/etc issues off the party platform.