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Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?

I'm a libertarian, and I do.
- 3 (10%)
I'm a libertarian, but I don't.
- 25 (83.3%)
I'm not a libertarian, and I don't.
- 1 (3.3%)
Other
- 1 (3.3%)

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Zhwazi

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Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« on: May 02, 2008, 03:15:42 PM »

The LP is a bad, useless joke. Yes? No? Pineapple?
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jimmed

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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2008, 03:38:46 PM »

Banana and donut.
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rabidfurby

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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2008, 03:45:54 PM »

Having an organization that does libertarian outreach on a national level is useful. However, the LP seems to concern itself more with actually trying to get candidates elected. All their recent attempts to make the LP more 'mainstream' and 'electable' are a reflection of this.

The primary goal of the LP should not be getting candidates who have an (L) next to their name elected. This leads to ditching your principles in the name of getting a higher vote count - exactly what we're seeing today. The problem is that having Libertarian candidates elected is meaningless if they have no principles.

Instead, the goal of the LP should be getting more people convinced of libertarian principles. If this happens, then libertarians getting elected will naturally be one of the consequences.

The question that remains is whether or not the LP is the best organization for this, or if it should be handled by the FSP, the Advocates for Self-Government, etc etc. A "libertarian Party" may in fact be a good way to do this, but there's no doubt in my mind the current Libertarian Party fails utterly.
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2008, 08:40:06 PM »

I'd like to change the question up a bit for myself:

Libertarian Party that adheres to principle = yes
Libertarian Party that lacks and even at times vilifies principle = no
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Porcupine_in_MA

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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #4 on: May 03, 2008, 06:31:11 PM »

"I'm a libertarian, but I don't."

I stopped caring about the national LP back around '03.
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2008, 06:11:35 PM »

I dont take ANY politics seriously
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2008, 06:16:27 PM »

I dont take ANY politics seriously
You're taking me WAY too seriously.
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2008, 06:17:39 PM »

What the fuck is going on here? 
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2008, 06:30:53 PM »

The human/dolphin personalities have split and now have to reconcile their differences through BBS posts.  Why it has to be through BBS posts I don't know but if I were you I would just let it happen lest disaster befall us all.  There are forces at work beyond your comprehension.
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2008, 06:42:33 PM »

The human/dolphin personalities have split and now have to reconcile their differences through BBS posts.  Why it has to be through BBS posts I don't know but if I were you I would just let it happen lest disaster befall us all.  There are forces at work beyond your comprehension.

All I want to know is ...do the fuck in the end? And will there be video?
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2008, 06:45:14 PM »

I used to take it seriously, but it's hard to do so any more.

I'd bet I've been a party member longer than anyone here.
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2008, 06:58:19 PM »


All I want to know is ...do the fuck in the end? And will there be video?

That's exactly what we need to avoid.  If they stay separate, they might.  The last thing we need are dozens of tiny mandolphins running around.
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2008, 08:02:24 PM »

I used to take it seriously, but it's hard to do so any more.

I'd bet I've been a party member longer than anyone here.

I'll bet I'm #2 if not a solid contender.
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2008, 08:19:47 PM »

I'll bet I'm #2 if not a solid contender.

Oh yeah?!?! When did you join!? Hunh!? Hunh!?



 :lol:
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Re: Do you take the national Libertarian Party seriously?
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2008, 08:27:33 PM »

I'll bet I'm #2 if not a solid contender.

Oh yeah?!?! When did you join!? Hunh!? Hunh!?



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1990. (Actually, I couldn't legally join to vote until 1992, but I was a libertarian at 16.) 

SO THERE.  :P
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