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[Rillion]

Known Fact:
Texans like to brag about how big their state is to people from the United States but not from Texas.

Known Fact:
Texans like to say "Well everything is bigger in Texas", and have heard it from their fellow Texans.

Don't get me wrong, there are probably a small percentage who these don't apply to, but they would be outside the norm.

Then they're not facts, are they?  Unless you have statistics, all you can do is say that some  Texans do these things.  And even if they do, so what? Does that make Texas the epitome of American stupidity?  Hardly.   That prize couldn't even be earned by Florida, Kansas, or Tennessee (though a person could easily add up a list of unpleasant things that many people in those states do), because all of those states contain intelligent people as well.  That's where generalizations get you.  That's why using generalizations without qualification makes you look like a jerk. 

[sinceredagreat]

There is assload of shit that is COMMON KNOWLEDGE.

Obviously you don't possess any, so its understandable why you would say some dumb shit like that.

Something has to be written in a book for it to be true...wow, you ARE dumb.

It just looks like you are talking out of your ass. If you had something credible to back you up besides your word I might believe you. But that is not the point, I don't care if you talk shit about them. But just STFU about people making generalizations about blacks.

I'm not going to compare dick sizes with you about who has traveled more but I have traveled around the world.

I bet you were an ugly American who they tried to avoid because you walked around thinking you know everything.

Is it written in a book that if you go into a ghetto and start calling people "nigger", that you run the risk of at least getting your ass beat?

Is it written in a book that you shouldn't go to a feminist rally and call the women there "bitches"?

Is it written in a book that I shouldn't go to my mom's neighbors (old Jewish guy with a LOT of shotguns) house with a Nazi armband on if I like not having a gaping hole in my chest?

Dude, just because some shit isn't written, or have a study on it, or some shit like that, doesn't make it any less true.

Oh, and another thing, you like to come wherever I am posting and start shit with me, but you are a bitch, so I can understand why you would stalk me. You probably want to be like me, but your balls haven't dropped yet. It's okay though, and I am flattered. When you hit puberty little boy I will school you on some things.

[sinceredagreat]

Known Fact:
Texans like to brag about how big their state is to people from the United States but not from Texas.

Known Fact:
Texans like to say "Well everything is bigger in Texas", and have heard it from their fellow Texans.

Don't get me wrong, there are probably a small percentage who these don't apply to, but they would be outside the norm.

Then they're not facts, are they?  Unless you have statistics, all you can do is say that some  Texans do these things.  And even if they do, so what? Does that make Texas the epitome of American stupidity?  Hardly.   That prize couldn't even be earned by Florida, Kansas, or Tennessee (though a person could easily add up a list of unpleasant things that many people in those states do), because all of those states contain intelligent people as well.  That's where generalizations get you.  That's why using generalizations without qualification makes you look like a jerk. 

If you haven't realized as an adult that generalizations rule the world and we ALL use them in one form or another condiering we possibly couldn't know everything about everything, then you need to geet outside your house and interact with pople outside this message board.

[Rillion]

If you haven't realized as an adult that generalizations rule the world and we ALL use them in one form or another condiering we possibly couldn't know everything about everything, then you need to geet outside your house and interact with pople outside this message board.

Actually, as an adult I've learned that you don't use generalizations without qualification unless you are either a) a comedian, or b) an idiot....or c) both.  Yes, a lot of people do use them.  A lot of people in Texas do this, making you ironically much like the people you criticize. 

Also: you appear to have some raging hatred against Texas specifically, but when pinned down all you can offer is that Texans like to brag about the size of their state?  Seriously?   Do you have some kind of myopia which prevents you from seeing that ignorance and racism exist all over the country? 

[CaL DaVe]

Oh, and another thing, you like to come wherever I am posting and start shit with me, but you are a bitch, so I can understand why you would stalk me. You probably want to be like me, but your balls haven't dropped yet. It's okay though, and I am flattered. When you hit puberty little boy I will school you on some things.

Let me make something very clear. If we ever meet, and I am standing right in front of your face. I expect you to talk to me this exact same way.

I'm going to be at the liberty forum.

[CaL DaVe]

If you haven't realized as an adult that generalizations rule the world and we ALL use them in one form or another condiering we possibly couldn't know everything about everything, then you need to geet outside your house and interact with pople outside this message board.

Actually, as an adult I've learned that you don't use generalizations without qualification unless you are either a) a comedian, or b) an idiot....or c) both.  Yes, a lot of people do use them.  A lot of people in Texas do this, making you ironically much like the people you criticize. 

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[sinceredagreat]

If you haven't realized as an adult that generalizations rule the world and we ALL use them in one form or another condiering we possibly couldn't know everything about everything, then you need to geet outside your house and interact with pople outside this message board.

Actually, as an adult I've learned that you don't use generalizations without qualification unless you are either a) a comedian, or b) an idiot....or c) both.  Yes, a lot of people do use them.  A lot of people in Texas do this, making you ironically much like the people you criticize. 

Also: you appear to have some raging hatred against Texas specifically, but when pinned down all you can offer is that Texans like to brag about the size of their state?  Seriously?   Do you have some kind of myopia which prevents you from seeing that ignorance and racism exist all over the country? 

Oh, I know racism exists all over. But some places are so bad, so just...horrible, they they single themselves out. Texas is that place. All this debating about it won't change a damn thing about what I am saying. I will continue to think and say that Texas is the worst place I have ever been. The racism, the staggering level of ignorance, the fact that I have never heard or met so many people that have never left their state but know everything about the world, and those that have left break this rule about how to not be an Ugly American.

2. Don't overplay your home town, but if asked, be forthcoming.
Everyone knows someone who won't relent when it comes to their home town, breaking into song at the mere mention of where they live (it's always seemed to me that Alabamans and others from parts South were most likely to launch into song). When asked, volunteer some information, but understand that not the entire world thinks your U.S. state is the center of the planet.

Texans are the only people I have met that think their state is the center of the planet. New Yorkers hae that "greatest city" mentality, but it is earned because of the multitude of diverse cultures within it, and serves as a archetype for what the rest of the world hopefully looks like by 2100 as long as the damn governments and religions of the world fade into nothingness.

I dislike the South in general, but its Texas I dislike the most. It's like everything I hate about the South magnified times 10.

[Jackson]

Cite you study? How about you go and travel the world, prick. You might learn some shit.

Dude, a tour in Iraq and 2 1/2 years in Ft. Hood don't make you a world traveler. Where did you spend the other 19 or so years that make you so much wiser than the rest of us?

[Laetitia]

Cite you study? How about you go and travel the world, prick. You might learn some shit.

Dude, a tour in Iraq and 2 1/2 years in Ft. Hood don't make you a world traveler. Where did you spend the other 19 or so years that make you so much wiser than the rest of us?

If you were as wise as Sincere, I bet you wouldn't even have to ask.

[Rillion]

If you haven't realized as an adult that generalizations rule the world and we ALL use them in one form or another condiering we possibly couldn't know everything about everything, then you need to geet outside your house and interact with pople outside this message board.

Actually, as an adult I've learned that you don't use generalizations without qualification unless you are either a) a comedian, or b) an idiot....or c) both.  Yes, a lot of people do use them.  A lot of people in Texas do this, making you ironically much like the people you criticize. 

Also: you appear to have some raging hatred against Texas specifically, but when pinned down all you can offer is that Texans like to brag about the size of their state?  Seriously?   Do you have some kind of myopia which prevents you from seeing that ignorance and racism exist all over the country? 

Oh, I know racism exists all over. But some places are so bad, so just...horrible, they they single themselves out. Texas is that place. All this debating about it won't change a damn thing about what I am saying. I will continue to think and say that Texas is the worst place I have ever been. The racism, the staggering level of ignorance, the fact that I have never heard or met so many people that have never left their state but know everything about the world, and those that have left break this rule about how to not be an Ugly American.

2. Don't overplay your home town, but if asked, be forthcoming.
Everyone knows someone who won't relent when it comes to their home town, breaking into song at the mere mention of where they live (it's always seemed to me that Alabamans and others from parts South were most likely to launch into song). When asked, volunteer some information, but understand that not the entire world thinks your U.S. state is the center of the planet.

Texans are the only people I have met that think their state is the center of the planet. New Yorkers hae that "greatest city" mentality, but it is earned because of the multitude of diverse cultures within it, and serves as a archetype for what the rest of the world hopefully looks like by 2100 as long as the damn governments and religions of the world fade into nothingness.

I dislike the South in general, but its Texas I dislike the most. It's like everything I hate about the South magnified times 10.

Okay, I'm not going to discount any of what you just said, but I'm going to suggest something-- perhaps, just perhaps, what you're talking about is not so much "known facts" as "Sincere's fervently held and not necessarily unjustified impressions of the state."

I've never been to New York, and honestly don't care to-- one reason for that, actually, is that I know there are loads of people on both coasts who think it's okay to shit on Texas as being full of culturally inept morons.   One of my favorite things to do when I lived in England was to get into an extended discussion with someone new about philosophy and psychology with my newscaster-vague Midwestern accent and then-- surprise!-- reveal to them that I'm from Texas and own a gun.  It forces them to broaden their horizons, amend their generalizations.   If I had announced that I was from Louisiana or Florida they might  have started with similar prejudices, but not nearly so much as hearing that I'm from Texas.   That's because Texas, by virtue of being seen as the state of Dubya, has become the emblem of American stupidity.  I'm just saying that this thinking is off.   It's unfair-- which is not to say that there aren't loads of ignorant hateful ingrates in Texas, but it obscures the fact that they exist all over the U.S. as well. 

[Bill Brasky]

Known Fact:
Texans like to brag about how big their state is to people from the United States but not from Texas.

Known Fact:
Texans like to say "Well everything is bigger in Texas", and have heard it from their fellow Texans.

Don't get me wrong, there are probably a small percentage who these don't apply to, but they would be outside the norm.

Those are cliches.  I've never met a Texan who's ever mentioned the size of the state for no good reason.  

I think if your exposure to Texans would lead you into thinking that was the norm, then you were in a tainted pool.  The way I figure it, you were probably exposed to blowhard douchebags from every state by being in the military, and the blowhard douchebags who hailed from Texas said really obnoxious shit, just like the blowhard douchebags from California would say Cali is the shit, and blowhard douchebags from NYC would say NYC is the shit.  

Your problem is social strata.  

[sillyperson]

I'd like to meet Sincere. I think he'd be a cool guy IRL.

[sinceredagreat]

If you haven't realized as an adult that generalizations rule the world and we ALL use them in one form or another condiering we possibly couldn't know everything about everything, then you need to geet outside your house and interact with pople outside this message board.

Actually, as an adult I've learned that you don't use generalizations without qualification unless you are either a) a comedian, or b) an idiot....or c) both.  Yes, a lot of people do use them.  A lot of people in Texas do this, making you ironically much like the people you criticize. 

Also: you appear to have some raging hatred against Texas specifically, but when pinned down all you can offer is that Texans like to brag about the size of their state?  Seriously?   Do you have some kind of myopia which prevents you from seeing that ignorance and racism exist all over the country? 

Oh, I know racism exists all over. But some places are so bad, so just...horrible, they they single themselves out. Texas is that place. All this debating about it won't change a damn thing about what I am saying. I will continue to think and say that Texas is the worst place I have ever been. The racism, the staggering level of ignorance, the fact that I have never heard or met so many people that have never left their state but know everything about the world, and those that have left break this rule about how to not be an Ugly American.

2. Don't overplay your home town, but if asked, be forthcoming.
Everyone knows someone who won't relent when it comes to their home town, breaking into song at the mere mention of where they live (it's always seemed to me that Alabamans and others from parts South were most likely to launch into song). When asked, volunteer some information, but understand that not the entire world thinks your U.S. state is the center of the planet.

Texans are the only people I have met that think their state is the center of the planet. New Yorkers hae that "greatest city" mentality, but it is earned because of the multitude of diverse cultures within it, and serves as a archetype for what the rest of the world hopefully looks like by 2100 as long as the damn governments and religions of the world fade into nothingness.

I dislike the South in general, but its Texas I dislike the most. It's like everything I hate about the South magnified times 10.

Okay, I'm not going to discount any of what you just said, but I'm going to suggest something-- perhaps, just perhaps, what you're talking about is not so much "known facts" as "Sincere's fervently held and not necessarily unjustified impressions of the state."

I've never been to New York, and honestly don't care to-- one reason for that, actually, is that I know there are loads of people on both coasts who think it's okay to shit on Texas as being full of culturally inept morons.   One of my favorite things to do when I lived in England was to get into an extended discussion with someone new about philosophy and psychology with my newscaster-vague Midwestern accent and then-- surprise!-- reveal to them that I'm from Texas and own a gun.  It forces them to broaden their horizons, amend their generalizations.   If I had announced that I was from Louisiana or Florida they might  have started with similar prejudices, but not nearly so much as hearing that I'm from Texas.   That's because Texas, by virtue of being seen as the state of Dubya, has become the emblem of American stupidity.  I'm just saying that this thinking is off.   It's unfair-- which is not to say that there aren't loads of ignorant hateful ingrates in Texas, but it obscures the fact that they exist all over the U.S. as well. 

So first you say that more people than myself hold a certain view on Texas, then you say its just only me that holds that view...what???

SO you are making a generalization as to why you don't want to go somewhere because of something you can't verify because YOU have never been there?

How does that pedestal look from the bottom now that I have knocked you off it?

Also if a whole bunch of people that don't know each other have all come to the same conclusion about a place, it's probably true.

If you ask a bunch of your friends that don't know each other about a particular restaurant and they all say it sucks, then you probably aren't going to go, because you trust their opinion. It's not something concrete or written in a book, its an opinion, but when another person asks you about said restaurant, you are going to say it sucks, and that person will take it as fact, especially when you say yeah, a bunch of people told me that.

Not trying to say that when multiple people have the same opinion, it becomes fact, but just because something isn't a "fact" doesn't make it any less true.

[sinceredagreat]

Known Fact:
Texans like to brag about how big their state is to people from the United States but not from Texas.

Known Fact:
Texans like to say "Well everything is bigger in Texas", and have heard it from their fellow Texans.

Don't get me wrong, there are probably a small percentage who these don't apply to, but they would be outside the norm.

Those are cliches.  I've never met a Texan who's ever mentioned the size of the state for no good reason.  

I think if your exposure to Texans would lead you into thinking that was the norm, then you were in a tainted pool.  The way I figure it, you were probably exposed to blowhard douchebags from every state by being in the military, and the blowhard douchebags who hailed from Texas said really obnoxious shit, just like the blowhard douchebags from California would say Cali is the shit, and blowhard douchebags from NYC would say NYC is the shit.  

Your problem is social strata.  

I didn't hang out with people from the military, and the ones I did were:

Trey: A black dude from Texas. Did not fit the stereotype in the negative ways.

Scott - White dude from Boise, Idaho.

Kim - black chick from Port Arthur, Texas. Kinda fit the stereotype, but the more she hung out with me  and my other friend Sincere she became more open to different views.

Nyasulu - black dude from Africa.
 
Sincere - black dude from New York.

Matt - white dude from Arkansas.

That's it for the military. Most of the people I hung out with were from other states that moved to Texas for various reasons. There were a few Texan friends, but they were also exceptions, but they were a very small percentage outside of the everyday Texan I would meet, which would fit the stereotype to a T. There are other reasons why I don't like Texas, but those you wouldn't understand.

[Rillion]

So first you say that more people than myself hold a certain view on Texas, then you say its just only me that holds that view...what?

No, I said nothing of the sort.  I specifically acknowledged in the very post you quoted that there are plenty of people who hold your view. 

SO you are making a generalization as to why you don't want to go somewhere because of something you can't verify because YOU have never been there?

Generalization: a statement that implies that all members of a group are the same. 

I made no generalization.  If you'll go back and look, I said that "there are loads of people on both coasts who think...."  I did not say "people on both coasts think....."  The latter is a generalization; the former is not. 

How does that pedestal look from the bottom now that I have knocked you off it?

If you could manage to get over yourself and have a civil conversation, it would look a lot better. 

but just because something isn't a "fact" doesn't make it any less true.

 

Are you trying to get yourself into the list of Bushisms, by any chance?