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After watching the documentary, or at least the trailer - what's your take on the Demographic Winter situation (eventual global population decline)?

Crisis - and it can be solved voluntarily
- 6 (28.6%)
Crisis - government should step in
- 2 (9.5%)
Crisis - but nothing can be done
- 0 (0%)
Neutral - population doesn't matter
- 3 (14.3%)
Neutral - I just don't care
- 5 (23.8%)
Positive - more robotics / etc
- 1 (4.8%)
Positive - let the human race die out!
- 0 (0%)
Untrue - population will remain stable
- 1 (4.8%)
Untrue - population will go up
- 3 (14.3%)

Total Members Voted: 12


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Re: Demographic Winter?
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2008, 09:17:46 PM »

Richard III is on a mission to save the world.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2008, 12:36:02 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2008, 12:37:36 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
Uh yeah, for sure
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2008, 12:53:37 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
Uh yeah, for sure
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I suggest you stop watching TV and go outside.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2008, 12:55:11 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
Uh yeah, for sure
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I suggest you stop watching TV and go outside.
I don't watch television
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« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2008, 12:55:38 AM »

If white girls do not destroy the white race, than the transhumanists certainly will. But at least the future super-humans will be able to slice a block of cheddar for some cheese and crackers, with their futuristic optima laser-eyes, as the sky turns black, and the birds sing, no more.

Dude, seriously. The species will be fine. Just as it was fine as the last of the neadertals ceased being genetically significant. Just as many languages and ethnicities have come and gone without much of a trace. It's natural that change should occur. Accept it already.
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2008, 12:56:22 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
Uh yeah, for sure
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I suggest you stop watching TV and go outside.
I don't watch television

Then you're fucked either way.
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« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2008, 01:07:41 AM »

Idiocracy.
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« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2008, 01:08:07 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
Uh yeah, for sure
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I suggest you stop watching TV and go outside.
I don't watch television

Then you're fucked either way.
I'm actually going out for an intense work out at 3am.
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« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2008, 01:12:31 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
Uh yeah, for sure
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I suggest you stop watching TV and go outside.
I don't watch television

Then you're fucked either way.
I'm actually going out for an intense work out at 3am.

See, you're fucked.
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« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2008, 01:14:08 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
Uh yeah, for sure
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I suggest you stop watching TV and go outside.
I don't watch television

Then you're fucked either way.
I'm actually going out for an intense work out at 3am.

See, you're fucked.
Noting wrong with that.
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« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2008, 01:17:36 AM »

This is a change that's not bad. As technology advances life spans increase, thus people do not need to breed near as much. Possibly within a century the species will probably evolve into many new subspecies through genetics and nanotechnology. This is a change that's been long coming. You can't stop it, just accept it and evolve.
Uh yeah, for sure
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I suggest you stop watching TV and go outside.
I don't watch television

Then you're fucked either way.
I'm actually going out for an intense work out at 3am.

See, you're fucked.
Noting wrong with that.

I never will contradict that point of view, dude. :)
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« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2008, 01:37:06 AM »

If white girls do not destroy the white race, than the transhumanists certainly will. But at least the future super-humans will be able to slice a block of cheddar for some cheese and crackers, with their futuristic optima laser-eyes, as the sky turns black, and the birds sing, no more.

Dude, seriously. The species will be fine. Just as it was fine as the last of the neadertals ceased being genetically significant. Just as many languages and ethnicities have come and gone without much of a trace. It's natural that change should occur. Accept it already.

Accept what, exactly? If nanotechnology blackpowder succeeds, then it will just become a tool for war, and it's going to be bad. I doubt that underground hacker-type scientists alchemists will have the resources to fight state-funded nanotechnology blackpowder wars. You are too optimistic about this. Like I said....Mother Nature will take care of this "progress" and wipe us away, before we have the opportunity to destroy ourselves. Mother Nature is about to deliver something spectacular.

Notice something fallacious about your argument?
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« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2008, 01:45:09 PM »

Like I said...Mother Nature is coming for you super-human scientists. Who do you think will win? Sorry...but, yer loveable cyborg-iPod race will not materialize.

Nature doesn't have feelings, thoughts, or goals as Nature has no mind.

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What will materialize is Africa rotting under the sun. You fancy scientists have been PWNED, from the beginning, and you are going to stay PWNED, in the end. It's time for Nature to "clean house". It will be a sublime massacre! All that wretched trash, moaning and groaning ...and wondering why. My Mother Nature likes to see blood contrasting with the blue sky. I like to see it, too.

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Our technology has allowed weakness to thrive. Nature does not like weakness. Mother Nature thinks that scientists are a bunch of fags. Mother Nature hates Richard Dawkins --- that's why she gave him bad teeth. Mother Nature loves me, because I am her understanding child.

1) Weakness is not what is thriving, rather it's mediocrity.
2) Being technophobic is like being scared of your own nature (meaning we're 'cyborgs' by default as we make tools and so does every other similar animal, get use to it).
3) If you want only the 'overmen' to breed, do it on your own dime, not mine. Otherwise, expect a good helping of buckshot up your ass anytime you try this shit IRL with me or my friends.
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« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2008, 02:16:38 PM »

Some of these things goes in cycles.  You have a population boom.  Then you have a period where population declines then at some point for some mysterious reason people start to FUCK MORE and you have another population boom.  Give it time and you'll see another increase in population.  Fucking idiots. 
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