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On whose property?I reject ownership of land, but for your purposes let's say:
That's a learned behavior though, and the better solution in the long run would be for this learned behavior to be unlearned than for people to be psychologically damaged and offended by seeing other people without clothes. No other animal has the same reaction to nudity of any species except humans, and not even all humans do, it appears to be a problem completely developed by humans.
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Although one should probably assume that modest clothing is a requirement until you explicitly learn otherwise. Don't walk into a WalMart naked and then say, "hey, I didn't know"... Some people can be seriously psychologically damaged by other people's nudity - that's not aggression on your part, but still bad feelings and bad karma all around.
On whose property?I reject ownership of land, but for your purposes let's say:
1. anyplace where the public normally has access to without passing by any signs saying "No tresspassing" or "Authorized Personnel Only" or unlocking locked doors in ways that don't use the key
2. On my front lawn, chilling in a lawn chair or mowing the grass
3. Lakes, beaches, and swimming-oriented locations that are generally publicly accessible
... it appears to be a problem completely developed by humans.
I always wondered, is "no shirt, no shoes, no service" legislated or a policy of small business owners? Seems like a simple solution to unwanted nudity on one's own property.
I reject ownership of land [...] |
That's a learned behavior though, and the better solution in the long run would be for this learned behavior to be unlearned than for people to be psychologically damaged and offended by seeing other people without clothes. No other animal has the same reaction to nudity of any species except humans, and not even all humans do, it appears to be a problem completely developed by humans.
I can explain it in a different thread if you prefer.
WTF?! I like Zhwazi, but I gotta say... FSP is being overrun by commies! Statements like that are precisely what I'm trying to escape from!
1. Whoever's liable for the property gets to decide.This isn't a solution, this is a deferral of the question to people who in most cases have no business making the decision. This goes back to the land ownership issue again though.
2. You get to decide.
3. Tragedy of the commons--if they don't want to see ugly, it's their problem, as with all "public" instances--unless "owned" or operated by a party, then they get to decide.
This is how property ownership settles problems.
I can explain it in a different thread if you prefer.
WTF?! I like Zhwazi, but I gotta say... FSP is being overrun by commies! Statements like that are precisely what I'm trying to escape from!1. Whoever's liable for the property gets to decide.This isn't a solution, this is a deferral of the question to people who in most cases have no business making the decision. This goes back to the land ownership issue again though.
2. You get to decide.
3. Tragedy of the commons--if they don't want to see ugly, it's their problem, as with all "public" instances--unless "owned" or operated by a party, then they get to decide.
This is how property ownership settles problems.
Yes, it is about a solution. No, they don't have business making the decision. I don't refuse to comprehend land ownership, I just reject it as illegitimate. You should know as well as anyone here that 2 years ago I'd have argued the face off of anyone that said land ownership was illegitimate and in fact did when bentucker was the noisiest crank on the site. It's obviously not about refusal, it's about I understand what property is better now than I did back then and this enhanced understanding brings a rejection of ownership of space. So stop telling me things that you know are lies about what I believe or not and why.
You might as well have asked "In what country?" and cited the laws of each country I named.
The question was "Do you believe people should be required to wear clothes?". The question was not "How should we decide whether or not people should wear clothes?". You did not answer the first question, you replied to a question that was never asked. Even then you failed to answer what the second question would have been and swept the question under the rug for somebody else to answer. Would you like to answer the real question?
I think we found Ben Tucker./me looks at the ban button.
I think we found Ben Tucker./me looks at the ban button.
:(I think we found Ben Tucker./me looks at the ban button.
/me subtly nods approval
:(I think we found Ben Tucker./me looks at the ban button.
/me subtly nods approval
Being annoying shouldn't be banworthy.
:(I think we found Ben Tucker./me looks at the ban button.
/me subtly nods approval
Being annoying shouldn't be banworthy.
No, but trolling is.
If I'm trolling I'm a really bad troll, because I only seem to be able to irritate wtfk, who has a propensity to be difficult with people that he disagrees with and me in particular. Nobody else made a big deal about anything I said in this thread except him. Am I the troll or is he?
The ambiguity is killing me. XPIf I'm trolling I'm a really bad troll, because I only seem to be able to irritate wtfk, who has a propensity to be difficult with people that he disagrees with and me in particular. Nobody else made a big deal about anything I said in this thread except him. Am I the troll or is he?
I assumed it was Sam Gunn, for saying you're this ben tucker guy after you said you spent a bunch of time arguing with him.
I didn't spend any time arguing with him. And the truth is I thought Zhwazi was KetiIf I'm trolling I'm a really bad troll, because I only seem to be able to irritate wtfk, who has a propensity to be difficult with people that he disagrees with and me in particular. Nobody else made a big deal about anything I said in this thread except him. Am I the troll or is he?
I assumed it was Sam Gunn, for saying you're this ben tucker guy after you said you spent a bunch of time arguing with him.
If I'm trolling I'm a really bad troll, because I only seem to be able to irritate wtfk, who has a propensity to be difficult with people that he disagrees with and me in particular. Nobody else made a big deal about anything I said in this thread except him. Am I the troll or is he?
I can explain it in a different thread if you prefer.I reject ownership of land [...]WTF?! [...] |
Why do you talk as if any disagreement between us is because I choose to make your life more difficult? Anytime you think I'm wrong you think I'm deliberately wrong, like I actually know what's right and choose to say something else anyways. Being immature and difficult doesn't advance either of our lives in any way.If I'm trolling I'm a really bad troll, because I only seem to be able to irritate wtfk, who has a propensity to be difficult with people that he disagrees with and me in particular. Nobody else made a big deal about anything I said in this thread except him. Am I the troll or is he?
I have a propensity to be difficult with people who deliberately talk in circles and don't make sense. In the big picture, that's mostly you.
I'll make one in the No-Hijack zone soon.Yes please start / link to a thread (on another BBS perhaps).I can explain it in a different thread if you prefer.I reject ownership of land [...]WTF?! [...]
Why do you talk as if any disagreement between us is because I choose to make your life more difficult? Anytime you think I'm wrong you think I'm deliberately wrong, like I actually know what's right and choose to say something else anyways. Being immature and difficult doesn't advance either of our lives in any way.If I'm trolling I'm a really bad troll, because I only seem to be able to irritate wtfk, who has a propensity to be difficult with people that he disagrees with and me in particular. Nobody else made a big deal about anything I said in this thread except him. Am I the troll or is he?
I have a propensity to be difficult with people who deliberately talk in circles and don't make sense. In the big picture, that's mostly you.
Would you like to answer the actual question that I asked?I'll make one in the No-Hijack zone soon.Yes please start / link to a thread (on another BBS perhaps).I can explain it in a different thread if you prefer.I reject ownership of land [...]WTF?! [...]
Why do you talk as if any disagreement between us is because I choose to make your life more difficult? Anytime you think I'm wrong you think I'm deliberately wrong, like I actually know what's right and choose to say something else anyways. Being immature and difficult doesn't advance either of our lives in any way.If I'm trolling I'm a really bad troll, because I only seem to be able to irritate wtfk, who has a propensity to be difficult with people that he disagrees with and me in particular. Nobody else made a big deal about anything I said in this thread except him. Am I the troll or is he?
I have a propensity to be difficult with people who deliberately talk in circles and don't make sense. In the big picture, that's mostly you.
Would you like to answer the actual question that I asked?
I read the link, and even after the umpteenth time I've read it I still can't find an answer to my actual question.
No, I answered it and you have no ground to stand on, so you've ignored it and claimed victory.No.
Similar question: Have you stopped murdering people yet?
No, I answered it and you have no ground to stand on, so you've ignored it and claimed victory.No.
Similar question: Have you stopped murdering people yet?
Why don't you guys just fuck and get it over with.
I gave you a straight answer to your assumptive question by exploiting assumption.
If you could give a straight answer to my question, however loaded you believe it to be, I would at least feel like you're fair, even if you do hate me. Or, if you believe the question is loaded, offer a question that you believe is not loaded that might give me the information I want and I'll see if it will tell me what I am asking.
I'm done humoring you.
QuoteI'm done humoring you.
Is that the present participle of hummer?
Or would that be "I'm done hummering you."
LoL, thanks for the clarification.
Sometimes I can be so dense.
I thought you were talking about sucking him off.
Your initial answer that it is not a yes/no question masked the fact that you weren't understanding my question. To this moment you have still failed to understand my question. Thus, you haven't answered the question. I've made it clear what my question is and what my question is not, and you still refuse to answer it. Don't get all indignant unless you're willing to understand me. Clearly, you aren't.I gave you a straight answer to your assumptive question by exploiting assumption.
If you could give a straight answer to my question, however loaded you believe it to be, I would at least feel like you're fair, even if you do hate me. Or, if you believe the question is loaded, offer a question that you believe is not loaded that might give me the information I want and I'll see if it will tell me what I am asking.
I told you why it's not a yes/no answer.
I asked you for more information.
You provided more information.
I answered each of the resulting questions, clearly and respectfully.
You came back at me with your usual bullshit.
I'm done humoring you.