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Free Talk Live => The Polling Pit => Topic started by: Taors on December 03, 2008, 08:35:56 AM
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Here's some questions:
1. Why does Riddler say nigger?
a: Probably to get a rise out of people like yourself, and by people like yourself, I'm not referring to BLACK PEOPLE
2.When did it become appropriate for another white people to use a hurtful word as a term of endearment?
a: I'm going to say, yes cavemen. . .that was when. A disrespectful grunt meant you really liked the guy
3. If it was so acceptable, how come most white people don't say it?
a: because they're scared of being hurt by black people who see it as a freebie to knock the shit out of someone. Namecalling is not a reason for the initiation of force. . .sorry.
4. Of course your answer is "Well all black people say it." Well, did you notice that was black people's way of taking the word in order to reduce the pain it brings when white people say it? Are you against people trying to help themselves by taking away the power one group had over it? So you are all for white people being hurtful to blacks?
a: Are you all for black people being hurtful to white people? Is it cool to have that 'revenge'? Reduce the pain my ass, I'll call bullshit all day, if you're in pain it's your own fucking fault
5.Why don't you use any other racial epithets?
a: I don't use them anyways unless it's a joke, and if I did I'd be sure to be pretty open about who I pissed off
6. Why don't you like black people?
a: I like some black people. Just like I like some white people. Get it?
::police tank rolls on by, watching white people AND black people both run for cover::
Have to disagree on number 3. You are initiating force (in person) if you say it, because those words that you forced out of your mouth hurt hy feelings, so I am going to force my fist to hurt your face...
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The "dunce" one.
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The "dunce" one.
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I guess the next poll should be "how many people think Sincere is a dunce?".
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It can be fraud.
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How about threats of violence?
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If someone is walking toward me and sez: "Imma gut you like a fish." and reaches behind their back, they're initiating enough force for me to put a hole in them. I don't have to wait for the dude to start stabbing me to defend myself.
I don't even have to wait until I see what he's gonna gut me with.
Same goes for a dude with his hand in his jacket telling me he's gonna shoot me. Does he have a gun? Well, maybe, maybe not. Is he gonna have a hole in him in a second? Probably.
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I think threats of violence are different, because of the intent behind them. If someone calls you a nigger, they're being hateful, but that doesn't mean they're initiating violence or are alluding to it. If someone says that they're going to kill you, then they have a very obvious intent.
John, would you call name calling an IOF? That's my point with this thread.
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calling you a name is at the most an attempt to incite you to committing violence. A sincere threat of violence is the only thing that comes close to initiation of force.
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calling you a name is at the most an attempt to incite you to committing violence. A sincere threat of violence is the only thing that comes close to initiation of force.
How do you tell the Sincere from the not-so-Sincere?
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Didn't vote. Use of "nigger" won't qualify, so in the way you apparently meant it, no. However, fraud would qualify under the NAP, and fraud is generally a form of using words.
Edit: corrected "meant," removed redundant "of."
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How bout if a witch tries to cast a spell on you with some weird chant, and they have the intention to cause harm?
Can you shot them and not violate NAP?
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How bout if a witch tries to cast a spell on you with some weird chant, and they have the intention to cause harm?
Can you shot them and not violate NAP?
Only if magic is real. :shock:
CAN O' WORMS AHEAD
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John, would you call name calling an IOF? That's my point with this thread.
Nope. Unless it's something like coffin stuffing or something.
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How bout if a witch tries to cast a spell on you with some weird chant, and they have the intention to cause harm?
Can you shot them and not violate NAP?
Yes. How the fuck do you know whether it works or not?
(note: I do not believe in magic)
More complete answer: I wouldn't, but if you believed it might work, it would be reasonable to.
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How bout if a witch tries to cast a spell on you with some weird chant, and they have the intention to cause harm?
Can you shot them and not violate NAP?
That leads to another set of questions...
Can the initiation of force be mental as well as physical?
If someone is brainwashing you without your knowledge, and you find out, can you retaliate with violence?
I do believe in magic, but I don't have the answers. I guess it would be a case by case situation.
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Can soundwaves traveling from one person's mouth to another person's ear, be considered IOF?
If they are close enough and the soundwave generator yells really loud, yes. But only dunces think name-calling is force.
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If someone is walking toward me and sez: "Imma gut you like a fish." and reaches behind their back, they're initiating enough force for me to put a hole in them. I don't have to wait for the dude to start stabbing me to defend myself.
I don't even have to wait until I see what he's gonna gut me with.
Same goes for a dude with his hand in his jacket telling me he's gonna shoot me. Does he have a gun? Well, maybe, maybe not. Is he gonna have a hole in him in a second? Probably.
Well said Mr. Shaw
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I guess the next poll should be "how many people think Sincere is a dunce?".
true definition of a troll.
caused a shitstorm & disappeared.
things were fine here, till yo-yo-yo got his fro in a twist
& then ken kicked in.
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I guess the next poll should be "how many people think Sincere is a dunce?".
true definition of a troll.
caused a shitstorm & disappeared.
things were fine here, till yo-yo-yo got his fro in a twist
& then ken kicked in.
Naw...first you racists kicked in.
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How bout if a witch tries to cast a spell on you with some weird chant, and they have the intention to cause harm?
Can you shot them and not violate NAP?
That leads to another set of questions...
Can the initiation of force be mental as well as physical?
If someone is brainwashing you without your knowledge, and you find out, can you retaliate with violence?
I do believe in magic, but I don't have the answers. I guess it would be a case by case situation.
voo-doo doll + pins
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I guess the next poll should be "how many people think Sincere is a dunce?".
true definition of a troll.
caused a shitstorm & disappeared.
things were fine here, till yo-yo-yo got his fro in a twist
& then ken kicked in.
Naw...first you racists kicked in.
one fucking LAST TIME
i said i didn't like obama due to lack of exp, socialistic tendencies, no credentials, etc.
sincere-a-hole called me a racist for it.
posts are there for all to see.
shut ya fuckin pie hole
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I'm SO FUCKING GLAD that was the last time.
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got your fingers in your ear, going "la-la-la-la, i can't hear you"?
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If words are an initiation of force, then someone who s@#t-talks you can be beaten because they assulted you first.
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If words are an initiation of force, then someone who s@#t-talks you can be beaten because they assulted you first.
samatta, we can't say 'shit' now?
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got your fingers in your ear, going "la-la-la-la, i can't hear you"?
Umm. No.
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So, you thnk being verbally assulted is not an initiation of force?
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got your fingers in your ear, going "la-la-la-la, i can't hear you"?
Umm. No.
that makes you on par with the 'cockroach' moniker i applied to sincere-da-arrogant
lift up rock
shine the light of facts & truth
cockroaches like sincere & ken scurry away
no surprise here.
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I was sure looking forward to that "last time" pledge meaning something.
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lalalalalalalala
i can't fucking hear you
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It can certainly be fraud or threat of violence. Both of those count as force to me.