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bradley manning hero or traitor?

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hero, if my kids were killed, i wuldnt want the murderer to go free and the reporter imprisoned, dont shoot the messenger
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traitor, murderers and torturers of children,even of my children, must be free to contiune their rampage, and tyrants must be allowed to steal from the poor to spend on their mansions, and terrorize their subjects, kill anyone who trys to stop them
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bradley manning hero or traitor?
« on: August 04, 2013, 11:07:38 AM »

arrest who arrested manning. ban from gov jobs who thinks manning should be charged. arrest/charge criminals manning exposed.
arrest who forced him to sleep naked w lights on, or sleep deprivation-abuse. no 1 shuold be put in solitary confiement if they are not directly endangering other inmates. prisoners shuold be allowed visitors. charge whoever locked up manning, $8/hr manning was locked up compensation to manning.
activate mass protests and petitions to arrest who arrested manning
charge nsa with espionage. 
espionage/spying=to look at/listen to/record someone/something w/o their knowledge or permission, and is legal if its looking at/listening to/recording public property, the outside of things that are outside or in public, anything you have permission to see, things w probable cause or potentially resonable suspicion of finding evidence of crime/gov misconduct, and gov info that is legally sapose to be public
leaking classified info is legal. breaching a paid confidentality contact may result in oweing a refund and loss of occupational licence, not arrest. gov confidentiality agreements to keep info secret that is sapose to be public, is illegal and a void contract. leaking classified info that is sapose to be public, or is probable cause of gov misconduct, is honorable, deserve reward, and what people are sapose to do.
'causing intelligence to be published', 'transmitting defense information', is freedom of press and speech.
manning's search and seizure is lawful there was probable cause of crime/gov misconduct.
legal to search if probable cause or maybe reasonable supicion of gov misconduct/crime, and record or share that info
only criminals say exposeing/leaking evidence of crimes is aiding the enemy because law-abideing people that try to stop crime are a criminal's enemy.
gov who searches and seizies w/o reasonable suspcion, or wants to cover up govs crimes agianst transparency laws within the consitution(that declare the public is sapose to know all gov does(exsept maybe certian info w 75% of the public's permit), is a traitor who betrayed their oath to defend the consitution, and betrayed the public by lieing to them saying they are there for national security when actualy they breach national secuirty, and only secure gov criminals from being prosecuted.
its legal to share (gov info that is legally sapose to be published) with the public
public sector(gov) is sapose to be the public's employees and be publicly viewable
whistle blower law-cant legally get in trouble for reporting crime/gov-misconduct
its gov's job to report and try to stop crime/gov-misconduct, and protect everyone=under the law=not letting some get away w the same type of misconduct you dont let others get away with, =no spying on everyone while baning every1 to spy on u
us army subject schedule no. 27-1 is "the obligation to report all violations of the law of war"
require gov workers report suspected gov-misconduct(exsept under risk. reward reporting gov misconduct under risk.
allowing criminals who spy on entire non-gov w/o their permit, or murders who kill innocents, to go unpunished puts everyone at risk.
put gov under 24-7live public video survailence. subject gov to suprize inspections done by non gov unpaid by gov.
anyone who illegally searches/seizes documents/pcs/videos/pety non survival items(manning didnt do, nsa did) shouldnt be arrested, should be banned from gov jobs, and maybe sml fine.
gov admitted manning leaks didnt put anyone at risk.
no one who hasnt touched someone agianst their will, kidnapped, physcially trapped, physcially abuse/neglected, murdered, tortured, disarmed, or physcially directly endangered someone(ex pointing a gun at someone), shuld go to life in prison.
the public is the top of the chain of command, top of the pryamid, the boss of gov, most arnt dum enough to report crimes to the crooks who commited them or crooks-the truth wouldnt get out and wuld be punished for reporting/exposeing.
manning first reported to his higher ups and they didnt care-ban those higher ups from gov jobs.
manning was honest with the public and upheld his orignal oath to the consitution and transparency laws, he isnt a traitor.
if he lied to tyrants in order to get access to info the public is legally owed, tyrants might lable him traitors, otherwise tyrants cant declare him a traitor
gov is like a lion hideing in the grass, slowly and quietly sneaking closer and closer to its prey, waiting to pounce on its prey, doesnt want its prey to see it, and wants to be able to see its prey
charge the policicans who use tax payer$ for their prv security when they can afford it for themself instead of buying themself so much lavish golf, vacations, long distance travel, fashion, fancy dinner..., with theft. the politicans theft of $millions+ is much more severe than manning looking at info on a computer w/o permission. they let the poor die while spending $millions punishing whistleblowers.
if it was your kids that got killed, would u want the murder to go free and the one who reported it to go to jail?-no, hypocrities. 
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