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Q1: what MS OS do you run now?   Q2: did/will you try Windows 7 RC?  Q3: your opinion?

Q1: Windows 7 RC already
- 7 (9.3%)
Q1: Windows 7 beta
- 0 (0%)
Q1: Windows Server 2008
- 0 (0%)
Q1: Windows Vista
- 8 (10.7%)
Q1: Windows Server 2003
- 0 (0%)
Q1: Windows XP
- 9 (12%)
Q1: Windows 2000
- 0 (0%)
Q1: an older MS OS
- 1 (1.3%)
Q1: I touch nothing from Microsoft!
- 3 (4%)
Q2: tried it in beta
- 4 (5.3%)
Q2: tried it in RC
- 3 (4%)
Q2: will try RC soon
- 0 (0%)
Q2: will wait for final release
- 8 (10.7%)
Q2: will wait for SP1
- 3 (4%)
Q2: never!
- 6 (8%)
Q3: didn't try yet
- 11 (14.7%)
Q3: it was perfect
- 3 (4%)
Q3: it was OK, no complaints
- 4 (5.3%)
Q3: too ugly / poorly designed
- 0 (0%)
Q3: too slow / bloated
- 0 (0%)
Q3: software compatibility issues
- 0 (0%)
Q3: hardware compatibility issues
- 0 (0%)
Q3: not innovative / cool enough
- 1 (1.3%)
Q3: bad, other
- 4 (5.3%)

Total Members Voted: 20


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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #45 on: July 27, 2009, 09:36:34 PM »

I haven't used any warez in several years.

I started doing that shit back in the Commodore 64 days with an acoustically coupled 300 baud modem that I shop lifed. I would also shoplift software by asking the clerk if I could look at a game box from the display case, take the 5.25" floppy, then give the box back. I don't know how I got away with that shit.



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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #46 on: July 28, 2009, 10:46:32 AM »

To break with tradition again, I'm going back to the original subject.

I ran across an article today, suggesting to people who were thinking about upgrading to Win7, that they have an opportunity to try something else since they're going to be wiping their machines anyway:

Upgrading from Windows XP to a Linux desktop
July 27, 2009 at 5:04 pm — Bob Sutor (no relation to the SCOTUS)

http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=3802&cpage=1

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According to Walter Mossberg over at the Wall Street Journal, the best way to upgrade from Microsoft Windows XP to Windows 7 is to backup your data, wipe your machine, and then reinstall your data.

But how will Windows users transition their current computers to the new Windows 7? While this latest operating system stresses simplicity, the upgrade process will be anything but simple for the huge base of average consumers still using XP, who likely outnumber Vista users. It will be frustrating, tedious and labor-intensive.

According to Mossberg, Microsoft is suggesting that you might just want to go ahead and buy a new computer with Windows 7 preinstalled.
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Alex Libman 14

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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #47 on: July 28, 2009, 03:47:40 PM »

Well, people do tend to buy new computers every 3-5 years.

And people who know what they're doing don't have to "wipe" anything, just create a new OS partition.  I still have a 7GB (compressed) Windows XP partition "just in case"...
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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #48 on: July 29, 2009, 05:00:24 PM »

Well, people do tend to buy new computers every 3-5 years.

And people who know what they're doing don't have to "wipe" anything, just create a new OS partition.  I still have a 7GB (compressed) Windows XP partition "just in case"...

Yup.  If you don't know what you're doing, you're probably gonna just buy a new system with the new OS on it anyways.
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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #49 on: July 29, 2009, 06:54:44 PM »

... and sell your old computer to someone who needs it more -- the first computer I had was pre-owned, because that's all that my parents could afford -- yaay capitalism!

Or hire a local geek to do the upgrade for you.  Or, if you're a girl, get a male geek to help you for free...  Ahh, that brings back memories...  :blush:

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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #50 on: August 18, 2009, 08:40:22 PM »

From Slashdot -- XP Users Are Willing To Give Windows 7 a Chance --

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PC World and Technologizer conducted a survey of 5,000 people who use Windows XP as their primary operating system. Many have no plans to leave it, and 80% will be unhappy when Microsoft completely discontinues it. And attitudes towards Vista remain extremely negative. But a majority of those who know something about Windows 7 have a positive reaction.

More important, 70 percent of respondents who have used Windows 7 say they like it, which is a sign that Windows 7 stands a chance of being what Vista never was: an upgrade good enough to convince most XP users to switch.


And -- Windows 7 To Sell In UK For Half the US Price --

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In the UK, a full version of Windows 7 Home Premium is going to cost less than half the price Americans will have to pay, and in fact less than Americans have to pay just for the upgrade-only edition. Full details and prices were published in an article on CNet, in which it was concluded that, at least for the time being, Microsoft is honoring the prices it set for the now-discontinued European version of Win7, which did not contain Internet Explorer 8 and was only available as a full-install edition.
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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #51 on: August 21, 2009, 01:04:09 AM »

From Slashdot -- Windows 7 Igniting Touchscreen PC Market --

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Apple Inc may still be coy about whether it plans to launch a touch-screen tablet computer this year, but Windows PC makers are forging right ahead.  In the past three weeks, five leading PC makers have announced or been reported to confirm plans to release touch-screen PCs in time for the multi-touch-enabled Windows 7, reports Computerworld.

Many appear to be using technology from New Zealand optical touch vendor, NextWindow, which already supplies HP's market-leading TouchSmart line, and Dell's Studio One.  NextWindow's CEO says the company is working with partners on 8-10 products set for launch within two months, in time for Windows 7's October 22nd release.
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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2009, 07:14:02 PM »

http://www.linuxtoday.com/infrastructure/2009082200635OPCYMS

"Linux vs Windows 7"

I'm posting the link to the Linux Today pointer to the original article, because I find the comments on the Linux Today site very interesting.

Just in case "someone" thinks I'm posting this only as a Windows hit piece, this is from the article:

"There's little doubt that Windows 7 is a solid improvement over its predecessor, and we would guess that most Windows users who were previously reluctant to upgrade XP will be happy with Windows 7 running on a new machine. Windows' greatest asset is the variety of software available, and Microsoft is going to offer an XP compatibility mode as an add-on to Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate."

And a caveat:

"If you found Vista's hardware installation frustrating, you're likely to have the same problems with Windows 7."
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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #53 on: August 22, 2009, 07:39:39 PM »

Vista's hardware install frustrating?  Uhhh....  :shock: :shock: :shock:

It's been 99% plug and play for me.  And that one item that wasn't was as simple as right clicking a driver file and pressing "Install"
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« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2009, 03:58:12 PM »

Yeah, I'm not sure what they're referring to when they trash on Vista's hardware installation process.  The article complains about installing their monitors, which isn't even necessary as far as I'm concerned.  That's just nitpicking.  I've never had a problem with Vista not installing hardware properly.  I've had a ton of issues with Linux not properly installing hardware, and not silly things like monitors but stuff that's actually important: video cards, network cards, sound cards, etc.  Sure, you can "blame" a lot of that on hardware manufacturers not supporting Linux, but that's not my problem.  I'm just the user.
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« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2009, 04:00:49 PM »

Yeah, I'm not sure what they're referring to when they trash on Vista's hardware installation process.  The article complains about installing their monitors, which isn't even necessary as far as I'm concerned.  That's just nitpicking.  I've never had a problem with Vista not installing hardware properly.  I've had a ton of issues with Linux not properly installing hardware, but not silly things like monitors, but stuff that's actually important: video cards, network cards, sound cards, etc.  Sure, you can "blame" a lot of that on hardware manufacturers not supporting Linux, but that's not my problem.  I'm just the user.
Same here.

What do you need to install a monitor for? 

Linux didn't like my ATI graphics.  It looked like it was installed properly but it ran at like 50% or less performance than Windows.
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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #56 on: August 24, 2009, 12:37:07 AM »

Linux users have all been hypnotized.  After installing Linux, they go into a trance while they frantically find and compile device modules, modprobe, edit their xorg.conf, compile the latest version of the programs they want from source because their distro has older versions and installing new ones isn't as easy as on Windows, get used to Firefox and many other apps running slower / uglier than on Windows, forget how fast and powerful μTorrent is, etc, etc, etc.  They emerge from that trance a week later, completely unaware that any time has passed.  When installing Windows, however, they go into a different trance that involves disabling hardware devices, deleting system files at random, and downloading every virus / trojan they can find.  The socialist cabal has spent many years placing those zombies into every server room in the world.  When GPL v4 comes out proclaiming the end of all property rights -- wham -- the World-Wide Communist Revolution will be triggered!  :lol:
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« Reply #57 on: August 24, 2009, 04:13:52 PM »

What do you need to install a monitor for? 

Funny thing. When I bought my wife her first LCD screen, it came with an install disk. Sure enough, when the "driver" for that particular monitor was installed in Windows, it had all the right settings and the correct available screen sizes, etc.

So "install a monitor", although a surprise to me too, did work and work very well. Since then any time I change external devices I make sure to see if the manufacturer has a "driver" for it.

Ah! Now I remember, it was a Proview monitor, and they still seem to provide the drivers even though their web site hasn't been updated since 2007. Uh-oh.

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Linux didn't like my ATI graphics.  It looked like it was installed properly but it ran at like 50% or less performance than Windows.

For some reason, the ATI graphics drivers being released for Linux are dragging seriously behind the Windows drivers. The only people who know why are ATI, I'm in the same boat right now myself. Did you ask them?

When GPL v4 comes out proclaiming the end of all property rights -- wham -- the World-Wide Communist Revolution will be triggered!

Funny. You do realize that the GPL strengthens property rights, by declaring that derivative works must acknowledge the upstream source? I'm surprised you'd bring that up, what with your stated preference for the BSD and other efforts which allow much greater latitude for derivative works without attribution or acknowledgement. Yet another page from the Microsoft astroturf handbook, obviously.
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Re: Any Windows users NOT switching to 7 RC?
« Reply #58 on: August 24, 2009, 04:21:56 PM »

The imaginary Microsoft AstroTurf Handbook is abbreviated MATH for your convenience.

We don't want you GPL-pushers to get CTS and raise our tax burden.
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« Reply #59 on: August 24, 2009, 05:36:04 PM »

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Total. Fucking. Fail.

Copyrights, all of it, period, is a government enforced monopoly on the use of ideas.

On the subject of OSes, I think I'm no longer a "Linux user" and am now a Windows user. I'll allow Linux two chances to redeem itself come November, before actually purchasing a Win7 license, but so far it's looking good for Microsoft.
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