Anarchist or Minarchist?

Anarchist

39 (67.2%)

Minarchist

19 (32.8%)

Total Members Voted: 33

[DontTreadOnMike]

Anarchist (agorist) in principle but I have no problem with working towards a minarchist type government first. Once the government controls nothing but the roads and a watered-down judicial system, I think it will be easy to convince people that even those things can be handled by the market.

[Ecolitan]

yes

[Level 20 Anklebiter]

Anarchist (agorist) in principle but I have no problem with working towards a minarchist type government first. Once the government controls nothing but the roads and a watered-down judicial system, I think it will be easy to convince people that even those things can be handled by the market.

Ditto.

[ox]

Anarchist (agorist) in principle but I have no problem with working towards a minarchist type government first. Once the government controls nothing but the roads and a watered-down judicial system, I think it will be easy to convince people that even those things can be handled by the market.

Nice.

[Alex Libman]

At this point, the debate is purely theoretical at best.  A person who's going to San Fransisco and a person who's going to San Jose can carpool for much of the way if they're starting off from Manhattan...  And by the time we cross the Mississippi, we'll know a lot more than we do now...

[nibbler491]

Anarchist (agorist) in principle but I have no problem with working towards a minarchist type government first. Once the government controls nothing but the roads and a watered-down judicial system, I think it will be easy to convince people that even those things can be handled by the market.

"Gradualism in theory is perpetuity in practice." - William Lloyd Garrison

[bad_cab]

Minarchist pretty much because I can't comprehend total anarchy.

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[AntonLee]

anarchist because I can't possibly go back now.

[patrickj]

voluntaryist/anarchist.  I think government is a rather stupid way to solve problems, but i welcome other people to subscribe to their own slavery. 

[kalmia]

Only voluntarily consented to  government is legitimate.  It would likely be very minimal except for the masochists.

[John Shaw]

I figured this thread would see another posting of Shaw's glorious battlefield PS.  It is a good one.  The term anarchy seems a bit misleading because even anarchic societies would likely have voluntary "governments" that don't use physical violence. Right?

Sup yo.

[kalmia]

Anarchist (agorist) in principle but I have no problem with working towards a minarchist type government first. Once the government controls nothing but the roads and a watered-down judicial system, I think it will be easy to convince people that even those things can be handled by the market.

The government people know that they need to continually scare people into believing they need the government people.  It's all about job security.

Imagine if the US hadn't invaded Iraq under Bush 41, and it also hadn't stirred up a war elsewhere that the warmongers would all believe was absolutely necessary for our survival.  Would people still believe the massive military was necessary nearly two decades after the end of the Soviet Empire?  That is millions of military people out of the military and the bankruptcy of corporations that don't know how to serve customers who willingly pay for their services.

[mikehz]

Thoreau pretty much sums up my feelings on the topic:

"That government is best which governs least," and I should like to see it acted up to more rapidly and systematically. Carried out, it finally amounts to this, which also I believe, — "That government is best which governs not at all"; and when men are prepared for it, that will be the kind of government which they will have.

Ideally, I'd like to see no government. But, I'll be happy with one limited to the sole function of protecting rights rather than violating them.

[Kevin Freeheart]

Depending on how you define either or...

None of the above?

[voodoo]

I just did an unscientific poll of these folks.  They vote no.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPKGZreusoQ&NR=1

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