Welcome to the Free Talk Live bulletin board system!
This board is closed to new users and new posts.  Thank you to all our great mods and users over the years.  Details here.
185859 Posts in 9829 Topics by 1371 Members
Latest Member: cjt26
Home Help
+  The Free Talk Live BBS
|-+  Free Talk Live
| |-+  The Polling Pit
| | |-+  American Union

Poll

thoughts on American Union?

Its coming very soon (<5 years)
- 4 (16%)
Its coming in the near future (<20 years)
- 5 (20%)
It might happen, but I have no idea when it might kick in
- 12 (48%)
Never going to happen (please state why)
- 2 (8%)
Other
- 2 (8%)

Total Members Voted: 14


Pages: [1] 2   Go Down

Author Topic: American Union  (Read 3250 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

DogOn

  • Guest
American Union
« on: September 03, 2008, 09:44:31 PM »

I've heard alot of speculation about the American Union, but not alot of substance. It seems the natural tendency of government to want to form as expansive power networks as possible, the EU seems to be a perfect blueprint of what could happen in America, however, I don't really have the time to pay attention to all the political and cultural goings on of all the American nations, so as far as I can tell it might never happen, or it might be about to kick in next year, from all the hype I've heard I've no idea what to believe.

Cutting short, what do you think of the likelyhood of the American Union forming, and when do you see it happening.

Any other general thoughts welcome.
Logged

BonerJoe

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2008, 09:53:48 PM »

nigger
Logged

DogOn

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2008, 09:55:20 PM »

nigger

interesting....

care to go into some more detail?
Logged

Porcupine_in_MA

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2008, 10:16:50 PM »

"It might happen, but I have no idea when it might kick in"
Logged

MacFall

  • Agorist
  • FTL AMPlifier Silver
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2295
  • No king but Christ; no law but liberty!
    • View Profile
Re: American Union
« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2008, 10:43:45 PM »

As I see it, there are only two possibilities. Either the entire world will eventually fall under a single, global state (whose inevitable downfall constitutes an historical event horizon), or the trend toward centralization will reverse itself until the world is largely stateless. I am not optimistic about the possibility of the latter, so I believe that there will be a world government, and an American Union is a logical step in that process.

The union will be shortly preceded by the collapse of the American dollar, which I think will happen within the next generation. So my prediction is that the AU will be formed within the next 20 years.
Logged
I am an anarchist! HOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!!

mrapplecastle

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2008, 11:10:26 PM »

already happened maybe?
Logged

Porcupine_in_MA

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2008, 11:16:30 PM »

the entire world will eventually fall under a single, global state (whose inevitable downfall constitutes an historical event horizon),

Is this when Damien Thorn finally takes over the world to make way for Hell on Earth?
Logged

MacFall

  • Agorist
  • FTL AMPlifier Silver
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 2295
  • No king but Christ; no law but liberty!
    • View Profile
Re: American Union
« Reply #7 on: September 03, 2008, 11:17:31 PM »

the entire world will eventually fall under a single, global state (whose inevitable downfall constitutes an historical event horizon),

Is this when Damien Thorn finally takes over the world to make way for Hell on Earth?

...I had to wiki Damien Thorn.  :oops:
Logged
I am an anarchist! HOOGA BOOGA BOOGA!!

Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith)

  • A Cut Above The Rest
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8299
  • If government is the answer, the question is stupi
    • View Profile
Re: American Union
« Reply #8 on: September 03, 2008, 11:21:58 PM »

I don't think we'll get a new overarching Constitution and State, but it will probably be more along the lines of neoliberalism and massive deeply concreted free trade agreements.  I mean like an expansion of NAFTA and CAFTA into some sort of mega free trade zone.  The US populace will never go for an outright abolition of the Constitution (even though they don't seem to mind destroying it one amendment at a time) or an outright loss of sovereignty and I don't think that American politicians will ever want to give up their power to some new boss, they'll want to control the union instead.
Logged
"Do not throw rocks at people with guns." —Hastings' Third Law
"Income tax returns are the most imaginative fiction being written today." —Herman Wouk 

"If you want total security, go to prison. There you're fed, clothed, given medical care and so on. The only thing lacking... is freedom." - Dwight D. Eisenhower

BonerJoe

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #9 on: September 03, 2008, 11:25:32 PM »

nigger
Logged

bakerbaker

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #10 on: September 06, 2008, 12:59:31 PM »

Logged

BonerJoe

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #11 on: September 06, 2008, 01:44:57 PM »

LOL, guest.
Logged

bakerbaker

  • Guest
Re: American Union
« Reply #12 on: September 07, 2008, 03:40:26 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_BIBFGV-0

[youtube=425,350]WM_BIBFGV-0[/youtube]


?
Logged

mikehz

  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 8033
    • View Profile
    • Day by Day
Re: American Union
« Reply #13 on: September 07, 2008, 09:57:54 AM »

Ain't gonna happen. Such a move would essentially be an annexation of Canada and Mexico. Canadians have no desire to get sucked into the United States. And, even though many Mexicans might want to live here, most are just as loyal to their country as Norte Americanos are to theirs.
Logged
"Force always attracts men of low morality." Albert Einstein

atomiccat

  • FTL AMPlifier
  • *
  • Offline Offline
  • Posts: 1142
  • Anarchy will Reign when pigs fly... Look a pig!
    • View Profile
Re: American Union
« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2008, 03:27:37 PM »

Ain't gonna happen. Such a move would essentially be an annexation of Canada and Mexico. Canadians have no desire to get sucked into the United States. And, even though many Mexicans might want to live here, most are just as loyal to their country as Norte Americanos are to theirs.

Maybe they will force us to join Mexico or Canada? United Mexicano States Of Canada!

Burritos And Hockey for everyone!
Pages: [1] 2   Go Up
+  The Free Talk Live BBS
|-+  Free Talk Live
| |-+  The Polling Pit
| | |-+  American Union

// ]]>

Page created in 0.021 seconds with 36 queries.