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Free Talk Live => The Polling Pit => Topic started by: Level 20 Anklebiter on October 27, 2008, 01:14:49 PM
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Semi-serious poll. Mostly I want to see what people think in their posts. Vote what you feel is the most funny or congruegent (or both) with your values.
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I voted "No, because a fetus is not a person" and "FRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM". To my knowledge, at the stage where it is still safe to abort, and where most women have the procedure (as soon as they can), it's just a tiny cluster of cells.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
Yup.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
I almost killed a few infants AND toddlers last night at dinner.
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Ok, let's think of it this way.
Humans aren't "human" unless they are taught to be "human". Plenty of cases of "wild" children out there.
Are we not human until we learn to communicate and interact with society?
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Abortion gives me the heebie-jeebies, but I don't think it should be illegal.
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I chose -
"No fetuses taste good with BBQ sauce..."
"FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!"
Because I'm a sick fuck and a libertarian.
Personally, I'm against abortions if done purely for convenience sake. The only time I think abortions should be done is when the life of the mother is threatened. I think if adoption and other means weren't regulated there would be a lot less need for abortion.
Most importantly it's none of my business and since I'm against government altogether it should not only not be involved but not exist in the first place anyway.
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Ok, let's think of it this way.
Humans aren't "human" unless they are taught to be "human". Plenty of cases of "wild" children out there.
Are we not human until we learn to communicate and interact with society?
Which is why I voted "Yes because a fetus is a human, but not a person...".
Abortion gives me the heebie-jeebies, but I don't think it should be illegal.
Which is why I voted "FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!".
Also, I couldn't help but see Lindsey quoting Rillion's post. That's some sick fucking shit.
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I chose -
"No fetuses taste good with BBQ sauce..."
"FREEEEEEEEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!"
Because I'm a sick fuck and a libertarian.
Personally, I'm against abortions if done purely for convenience sake. The only time I think abortions should be done is when the life of the mother is threatened. I think if adoption and other means weren't regulated there would be a lot less need for abortion.
Most importantly it's none of my business and since I'm against government altogether it should not only not be involved but not exist in the first place anyway.
some...of...this...
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
I would support killing a person killing infants, if need be.
Well, let's be glad you most likely will never have to deal with such a situation. Because I'd rather not have to kill you.
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I voted Freedom.
But I have thought about this for a while and I have no logical justification for what i'm about to write, only emotional.
Speaking from a personal level, the way I see it, if my wife were to tell me she was pregnant, I would get the feeling like the baby was real and human. I would be devastated if she were to have a miscarriage or have an abortion. Because I know that I would feel an emotional connection to the fetus as if it were a baby. Because of this, I would have to say that I would consider my baby to exist at the moment that my wife told me we were going to have a baby. But only because of the emotional feelings that I would have.
If we are talking about other people's babies, then that emotional feeling is not there.
It is a strange concept to me that I don't fully understand.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
I would support killing a person killing infants, if need be.
Well, let's be glad you most likely will never have to deal with such a situation. Because I'd rather not have to kill you.
All because someone started murdering...
Don't worry. I'd be by your side.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
I would support killing a person killing infants, if need be.
Well, let's be glad you most likely will never have to deal with such a situation. Because I'd rather not have to kill you.
All because someone started murdering...
Yes, I'd be sorry you felt you had to take that step.
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It's a hard issue to grapple just because of the emotional baggage it carries, but also because there's still much to be learned about what makes someone a person.
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I'm sorry that you're sorry that I'm sorry that.......oh, fuck it. I'm not really sorry. Sorry, Ken. This is a stupid exchange.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
I would support killing a person killing infants, if need be.
Well, let's be glad you most likely will never have to deal with such a situation. Because I'd rather not have to kill you.
All because someone started murdering...
Yes, I'd be sorry you felt you had to take that step.
I'm sorry you're insane and think murdering babies isn't murder, and thus, started it all.
My invitation for you to show me that a fetus is a person by a decent ethical argument or some compelling evidence is still open. Just stand and deliver as you have my attention.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
I would support killing a person killing infants, if need be.
Well, let's be glad you most likely will never have to deal with such a situation. Because I'd rather not have to kill you.
All because someone started murdering...
Yes, I'd be sorry you felt you had to take that step.
I'm sorry you're insane and think murdering babies isn't murder, and thus, started it all.
My invitation for you to show me that a fetus is a person by a decent ethical argument or some compelling evidence is still open. Just stand and deliver as you have my attention.
Go read Rillion's first post in this thread, and then edit the post you just made.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
I would support killing a person killing infants, if need be.
Well, let's be glad you most likely will never have to deal with such a situation. Because I'd rather not have to kill you.
All because someone started murdering...
Yes, I'd be sorry you felt you had to take that step.
I'm sorry you're insane and think murdering babies isn't murder, and thus, started it all.
My invitation for you to show me that a fetus is a person by a decent ethical argument or some compelling evidence is still open. Just stand and deliver as you have my attention.
Go read Rillion's first post in this thread, and then edit the post you just made.
I did, my post still stands as he has yet to answer me in the other thread. I thought the quoted reply would grab his attention.
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I'm still grasping how people can state a fetus, especially first trimester, is a person. I could see a decent argument for third and even second trimesters, but first... Come on, don't fuck with a nigga!
I would support a person's right to kill a one month old infant, if need be.
I would support killing a person killing infants, if need be.
Well, let's be glad you most likely will never have to deal with such a situation. Because I'd rather not have to kill you.
All because someone started murdering...
Yes, I'd be sorry you felt you had to take that step.
I'm sorry you're insane and think murdering babies isn't murder, and thus, started it all.
My invitation for you to show me that a fetus is a person by a decent ethical argument or some compelling evidence is still open. Just stand and deliver as you have my attention.
Go read Rillion's first post in this thread, and then edit the post you just made.
I did, my post still stands as he has yet to answer me in the other thread. I thought the quoted reply would grab his attention.
Ah.
Well, I'm going to step out while the shitstorm that's about to happen commences. Later.
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Yes, Robot has been flailing his arms screeching DANGER DANGER for about the entire existence of this thread.
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You clearly haven't been reading the good doctor and I's discussion post-post (wtf?)?
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? I responded to the accusation that I would kill someone for committing an abortion. The assertion was wholly inaccurate, as I demonstrated.
Ken, read a few posts up.
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? I responded to the accusation that I would kill someone for committing an abortion. The assertion was wholly inaccurate, as I demonstrated.
Do you have proof that aborting a fetus is murder? You can choose to constrain it to the second and third trimesters or add other provisions.
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? I responded to the accusation that I would kill someone for committing an abortion. The assertion was wholly inaccurate, as I demonstrated.
Do you have proof that aborting a fetus is murder? You can choose to constrain it to the second and third trimesters or add other provisions.
Why would I need proof? I never suggested hurting anyone murdering fetuses?
Because you're asserting a positive claim that it is murder much like a religious nut asserts his particular faith is the only true faith without any proof.
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? I responded to the accusation that I would kill someone for committing an abortion. The assertion was wholly inaccurate, as I demonstrated.
Do you have proof that aborting a fetus is murder? You can choose to constrain it to the second and third trimesters or add other provisions.
Why would I need proof? I never suggested hurting anyone murdering fetuses?
Because you're asserting a positive claim that it is murder much like a religious nut asserts his particular faith is the only true faith without any proof.
It's clear to me that it's murder, because it's clear to me the fetus is human.
My eye ball is human, but that doesn't mean I'm murdering it by its removal. Humanness != Personness.
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Link to the thread or it didn't happen. Plus such claims have been discussed numerous times by bio-ethicists and they're still split about it. So, how you can claim some magical insight greater than anyone else on this issue without proof is pretty fucking arrogant on your part.
Especially when you consider the facts regarding the question of what allows for thought in all animals and possible future AI-synthetics.
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Link to the thread or it didn't happen.
I'm not your errand boy...precisely the reason I'm not going to rehash that old thread.
Then I'll consider this your admission that you have no proof to provide. Thanks for the lack of an intelligent conversation. *clicks iggy*
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If you think it's okay to murder babies in the womb because they aren't completely intelligent, then I guess it's okay to murder retards too.
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If you think it's okay to murder babies in the womb because they aren't completely intelligent, then I guess it's okay to murder retards too.
Just let them try and survive on their own. If they die, then oh well.
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If you think it's okay to murder babies in the womb because they aren't completely intelligent, then I guess it's okay to murder retards too.
Just let them try and survive on their own. If they die, then oh well.
Okay. Nobody should initiate force against an unborn baby, but if they don't want it then by all means they should give it to a foster home.
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If you think it's okay to murder babies in the womb because they aren't completely intelligent, then I guess it's okay to murder retards too.
This. This is why it bothers me.
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If you think it's okay to murder babies in the womb because they aren't completely intelligent, then I guess it's okay to murder retards too.
This. This is why it bothers me.
I also wanted to murder a retard last night too. She was at the door at Wal-Mart, and would not stop talking. :cry:
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If you think it's okay to murder babies in the womb because they aren't completely intelligent, then I guess it's okay to murder retards too.
But that wouldn't follow as we can show that retarded individuals exhibit some degree of intelligence where as a fetus we cannot.
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Hey, dipshit. I'm not showing/hiding your fucking posts. So you can fuck yourself and die or whatever order suits you.
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I swear some wii-tards are persistent.
/me offers the wii-tard some aborted* fetus chips.
*may contain miscarriages instead.
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Last word, mine it is.
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Oh no you don't.