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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 15, 2005, 07:07:36 PM »I don't see any silliness in coming to the conclusion that for men to write the phrase "we believe these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, endowed by thier creator with certain inalienable rights, among them..." REQUIRES a belief in a CREATOR. Otherwise it is indeed a silly statement if made by an athiest...
Don't know about any of you people but my mom and dad created me.
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 12, 2005, 07:52:18 PM »
http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul125.html
"Fiat dollars allow us to live beyond our means, but only for so long. History shows that when the destruction of monetary value becomes rampant, nearly everyone suffers and the economic and political structure becomes unstable. Spendthrift politicians may love a system that generates more and more money for their special interest projects, but the rest of us have good reason to be concerned about our monetary system and the future value of our dollars." - Dr. Ron Paul
"Fiat dollars allow us to live beyond our means, but only for so long. History shows that when the destruction of monetary value becomes rampant, nearly everyone suffers and the economic and political structure becomes unstable. Spendthrift politicians may love a system that generates more and more money for their special interest projects, but the rest of us have good reason to be concerned about our monetary system and the future value of our dollars." - Dr. Ron Paul
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 12, 2005, 07:39:39 PM »With all this talk of money, i was wondering one thing. Are liberty dollars taxable? Like if you buy a 20 dollar item with a liberty dollar, do you have to pay taxes too? I was thinking this, because since the liberty dollar isn't considered "money" by the government, it would be like bartering with someone, and no money would have changed hands.
That would be awesome!
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 12, 2005, 05:54:34 PM »All of your questions are second nature, and will be explained by further research on your own. I cannot sit here and dictate all the answers to a political system to you in the detail that you deserve. I know that you have good intentions, and I know that you should hear my responses, btu to be fair to you (and to myself), I really, really need to finish typing my book on this subject. If I sit here typing it all out to you on a forum, then what's the use of me writing a book on the subject?
Just read and re-read what I have posted thus far, and do a little research on your own. Have patience. It's not like we are going to convert to this system any time soon, lol.
A link or two to some articles would be helpful.
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 12, 2005, 03:51:49 PM »You just don't get it, do you?The system pays for itself. The interest collected by government investments alone will more than pay off any requirement. This doesn't even mention the thousands of other avenues of profit that come with printing our own money. Why do you think we prospered after the civil war? It was because we were using our own currency, providing a stable economy, and was backed only by our own potential. There is no interest charged on the American people, no debt, no forclosures. Understand this simple fact, and you can begin to see why the foreign bankers were so adamant about killing our banks and instituting their own. To say that our own monetary system will not be successful is the same as saying that European bankers don't run the world.
How much money will be printed to accurately represent our current potential? Who will get to decide? Also, will more money be printed/taken away when our potential changes (more people being born than dying or vice versa)? How will money be taken out of circulation to prevent inflation? Who will get to decide where the government invests its money? What if the investments fail, where will the government get money?
I might not get it yet but I am listening.
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 12, 2005, 10:32:21 AM »
Who's going to pay to mow the lawn in front of the white house? Who's going to pay for the utilities bill of the congress? Those are annual expenses! Every four years we hold election, who's going to pay to run the elections and to people counting the votes?
There is no way around it. Since the government doesn't produce anything it will have to print money to pay for its expenses.
There is no way around it. Since the government doesn't produce anything it will have to print money to pay for its expenses.
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 11, 2005, 07:26:49 PM »It won the war. It brought the most prosperous times in our history. And, it still is the longest used currency ever in our history.
Don't be too quick to judge. Educate yourself. And thanks for the questions.
So, ten billion dollars are printed to build a military in one year. So far so good. Next year 200 million is printed to upkeep the military, same the year after that, etc. After several hundred years we have A LOT of money. Bread will cost $25,000. Or am I missing something?
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 11, 2005, 06:25:51 PM »*sigh* You really have no clue, do you?"Just get Congress to pass a bill authorising the printing of full legal tender treasury notes... and pay your soldiers with them and go ahead and win your war with them also."
-Colonel Dick Taylor
Backed by what?
It was a FIAT currency. But, we printed it, and the American people used it faithfully until the year of our lord 1994 a.d.
There is no way in hell I would fight for having FIAT currency. Especially since the government would control how much of it is in circulation, how would they know how much of it should be in circulation?!
This is crazy!
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 11, 2005, 06:14:11 PM »"Just get Congress to pass a bill authorising the printing of full legal tender treasury notes... and pay your soldiers with them and go ahead and win your war with them also."
-Colonel Dick Taylor
Backed by what?
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 11, 2005, 05:51:34 PM »The people of the United States invested in bonds for the greenbacks. The money in which we printed, NOT the federal reserve.
Who will pay for the police, judges, public buildings, etc?
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 11, 2005, 05:41:42 PM »162
General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 11, 2005, 05:40:13 PM »WTF are you rambling on about? Taxes? There is no necessity for taxation, and if Congress decides to levy one, then only they can do so, NOT a privately owned and operated IRS based out of Puert Rico. Only Congress can tax us, friend. We, the People comprise Congress. My only change to the system in this regard is to make it clear that the 14th and 16th amendments are illegal and not ratified, and place term limits on Congress as well as make it impossible for us to deal in fractional reserve banking and borrowing of money, and reinstitute a fully American backed currency with silver only.Christian, we can do whatever the hell we want, so long as we do not violate the life, liberty, and property of another American, which is what our constitutional government was set up to protect, and is what we should be fighting to restore.
What about taxes? Would there be mandatory taxes in your envisioned society? How would you force people to pay them without violating their "life, liberty and property"?
Have I lost you yet?
Without taxes who will fund your military?
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General / Re: Christian Anarchy is the only sensible answer...
« on: August 11, 2005, 05:30:55 PM »Christian, we can do whatever the hell we want, so long as we do not violate the life, liberty, and property of another American, which is what our constitutional government was set up to protect, and is what we should be fighting to restore.
What about taxes? Would there be mandatory taxes in your envisioned society? How would you force people to pay them without violating their "life, liberty and property"?
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Photoshops / Re: Hilariously bad propaganda site FOR THE KIDS!
« on: August 09, 2005, 06:53:53 PM »Haha, I know
What can I say, I went to government school!
That's not a good excuse. Are you going to blame all of your intellectual inabilities on the government education?