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General / Re: The NAP is A Social Contract
« on: October 06, 2014, 11:45:22 PM »

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General / Re: The NAP is A Social Contract
« on: October 06, 2014, 02:24:57 PM »
In a society where the NAP is valued and followed, it would be enforced by some mechanism, would it not?

Well then you're talking about a society; not the NAP itself. A principle can't be a social contract. In the simplest form, the only enforcement of the NAP is self-defense, e.g. lots of people carrying guns and each of them having a personal policy that they'll only use them in self-defense. That naturally leads to certain social repercussions such as if a group of people sees a person get attacked, they are justified by but not obligated by the NAP to assist the innocent party against the aggressive party. It's technically everyone's responsibility to defend their own rights but odds are many people would come to the aid of others out of human nature because we're social creatures. Likewise, organizations would form to offer defensive services that could take all sorts of forms or even be funded charitably from people wanting to help others. So if a bunch of people defensively use violence against you, that's just a repercussion of your aggressive actions in a world where lots of people follow the NAP. Getting bitten is a potential repercussion of poking strange dogs.

Typically the term "social contract" is used to explain why all people have obligations to do something for other people. Strictly speaking, NAP followers believe one's only obligation to others is to abstain from aggression against them. It's not really "doing" something since you can fulfill it by doing nothing, but I suppose if you wanted to pick nits, that's still a social obligation of a sort and hence a society based on it still has something of a social contract.

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General / Re: The NAP is A Social Contract
« on: October 04, 2014, 12:10:32 AM »
Treating it like it's a law of nature is a fairly religious perspective. We should be arguing why the NAP is key to having successful societies that we all benefit from from a self-interest POV. It's not a law of nature. It's something we invented that's useful.

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General / Re: Chaos is the only sensible answer. Cthulhu is awake!!!
« on: October 02, 2014, 11:17:13 PM »

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General / Re: Chaos is the only sensible answer. Cthulhu is awake!!!
« on: October 02, 2014, 10:36:24 AM »

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General / Re: Chaos is the only sensible answer. Cthulhu is awake!!!
« on: October 02, 2014, 10:35:54 AM »

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General / Re: Excellent Butts desegregated version 2.0
« on: October 02, 2014, 10:07:26 AM »

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No, I heard they both suck.

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General / Re: Excellent Butts desegregated version 2.0
« on: September 26, 2014, 10:59:19 AM »

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General / Re: Excellent Butts desegregated version 2.0
« on: September 26, 2014, 10:57:22 AM »

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General / Re: Excellent Butts desegregated version 2.0
« on: September 24, 2014, 09:39:25 AM »

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General / Re: Excellent Butts desegregated version 2.0
« on: September 24, 2014, 09:37:03 AM »

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General / Re: Excellent Butts desegregated version 2.0
« on: September 24, 2014, 09:36:38 AM »

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