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General / Va. teen suffers rare illness after swine flu shot
« on: November 12, 2009, 03:46:11 AM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33845867/ns/health-cold_and_flu/
A 14-year-old Virginia boy is weak and struggling to walk after coming down with a reported case of Guillain-Barre syndrome within hours after receiving the H1N1 vaccine for swine flu.
Jordan McFarland, a high school athlete from Alexandria, Va., left Inova Fairfax Hospital for Children Tuesday night in a wheelchair nearly a week after developing severe headaches, muscle spasms and weakness in his legs following a swine flu shot. He will likely need the assistance of a walker for four to six weeks, plus extensive physical therapy.
“The doctor said I’ll recover fully, but it’s going to take some time,” the teenager said.
Jordan is among the first people in the nation to report developing the potentially life-threatening muscle disorder after receiving the H1N1 vaccine this fall. His alarming reaction was submitted via msnbc.com's reader reporting tool, First Person, by his stepmother, Arlene Connin.
Increased cases of GBS were found in patients who received a 1976 swine flu vaccine, but government health officials say they've seen no rise in the condition associated with the current outbreak.
So far, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have received five reports of GBS in people who received the H1N1 vaccine since Oct. 6, not including Jordan’s case, said Dr. Claudia J. Vellozzi, deputy director for immunization safety.
Out of about 40 million doses of H1N1 vaccine available to date, that’s a far lower rate of GBS than the 1 case that develops in every 1 million people who receive the regular flu vaccine.
"It's much less than we'd expect," she said, adding that many cases go unreported.
In 1976, about 1 additional case of GBS developed in every 100,000 people who were vaccinated against the swine flu, according to the CDC.
Jordan's parents said doctors diagnosed the teen with GBS, a rare muscle disorder that develops when a person’s own immune system attacks the nerves, causing muscle weakness, difficulty walking and sometimes paralysis and death.
Hospital officials didn't dispute that the boy had GBS, but refused to comment on the boy's condition or treatment, even after his family granted permission.
“They don’t want to create a fear or panic in the community,” said Jordan's stepmother, Connin.
Connin and Jordan’s father, Calvin McFarland, both 38, believe the shot sparked the illness that came on 18 hours after the boy’s vaccination.
No clear link
But Vellozzi said there’s no clear link between the new vaccine and the disease.
“We know that GBS and other illnesses occur routinely in the U.S.,” Vellozzi said, noting that 80 to 120 cases are diagnosed each week in the general population.
“There are events that follow vaccination. That’s what they are, they happened to follow vaccination.
BS is among the most severe adverse events being tracked with updated systems developed by the CDC, the Food and Drug Administration and the American Association of Neurology in order to monitor the rollout of the H1N1 flu vaccine.
So far, CDC officials have received about 1,700 reports of adverse events linked to the new shot, Vellozzi said. Of those, only about 4 percent, or 68, were coded as serious. That’s on par with reports regarding seasonal vaccine.
While any harmful side effect can be devastating for an individual, when it comes to larger public health issues, the H1N1 virus is considerably riskier than the vaccine, experts say.
“The H1N1 illness is making lots of children very ill," Vellozzi said. "There’s lots of illness and lots of death."
So far, more than 4,000 people have died from H1N1 infection in the U.S., according to latest estimates by the CDC.
Since the start of the H1N1 vaccine campaign, the CDC has repeatedly warned that certain conditions, such as miscarriage, heart attack and even GBS occur regardless of immunization, and officials have urged the public not to blame the vaccine for the illnesses, but to report promptly any suspected side effects.
As of early Wednesday, CDC officials said they had received no report from Inova Fairfax about Jordan's condition. Later in the day, however, hospital spokesman Tony Raker indicated the hospital had submitted the report.
After hearing about Jordan's case from msnbc.com, CDC officials advised the family to report Jordan's case themselves.
Vaccine critic Barbara Lowe Fisher, president of the National Vaccine Information Center in Vienna, Va., said assuming all potential side effects are coincidence is a mistake. Such an attitude is likely to prevent doctors and other health workers from reporting adverse events in a timely manner, obscuring a true picture of any problems.
Fisher said only between 1 percent and 10 percent of adverse events are reported to the government's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which was set up to track problems with vaccines. A 1986 law requires reporting of certain adverse events to VAERS, but there are no sanctions for not reporting, Fisher noted. CDC officials said general reporting to VAERS is voluntary.
Fisher said she suspects that many more cases of GBS have occurred in the wake of the H1N1 vaccines.
"We basically have people blowing it off," she said. "We need to make sure people are reporting."
Eager for protection
Like many parents across the country, Arlene Connin said she was eager to protect Jordan and his brother, Lleyton, 7, against the flu. When she took the boys to their pediatrician for seasonal flu shots on Nov. 5, the provider said H1N1 vaccine was available, too.
There was “not even a thought,” that either boy would have a reaction, Connin said. Within hours, however, Jordan developed severe headaches, chills and back spasms. The family rushed him to the closest hospital, Dewitt Army Community Hospital, where doctors conducted neurological exams, a CT scan and an EKG test.
The small hospital didn’t have the facilities to diagnose or treat Jordan’s illness, so he was transferred by ambulance on Nov. 6 to Inova Fairfax Hospital in Falls Church, Va., a spokesman said. Doctors there quickly gave Jordan intravenous immunoglobulin, a standard treatment for GBS, Connin said.
“GBS, that’s the diagnosis they gave us and that’s how they were treating him,” Connin said.
A hospital spokesman, Tony Raker, declined further comment on Jordan's case. When an msnbc.com photographer asked to view Jordan's chart, even with his father's permission, hospital officials refused.
Doctors are reluctant to discuss GBS in connection with vaccines, Connin said. Anti-vaccine groups frequently cite the disorder as evidence of vaccine dangers, which public health officials fear will discourage people from getting life-saving protection, especially in the case of H1N1.
Jordan’s experience has made his parents think hard about immunization, even though they’ve always insisted on annual flu shots. Under CDC guidelines for children 9 and younger, Lleyton should receive another booster shot of H1N1 vaccine to protect him fully against the virus.
“I have mixed emotions on that one,” Calvin McFarland, the boys’ father, said. “We’re not sure what we’re going to do about that.”
A 14-year-old Virginia boy is weak and struggling to walk after coming down with a reported case of Guillain-Barre syndrome within hours after receiving the H1N1 vaccine for swine flu.
Jordan McFarland, a high school athlete from Alexandria, Va., left Inova Fairfax Hospital for Children Tuesday night in a wheelchair nearly a week after developing severe headaches, muscle spasms and weakness in his legs following a swine flu shot. He will likely need the assistance of a walker for four to six weeks, plus extensive physical therapy.
“The doctor said I’ll recover fully, but it’s going to take some time,” the teenager said.
Jordan is among the first people in the nation to report developing the potentially life-threatening muscle disorder after receiving the H1N1 vaccine this fall. His alarming reaction was submitted via msnbc.com's reader reporting tool, First Person, by his stepmother, Arlene Connin.
Increased cases of GBS were found in patients who received a 1976 swine flu vaccine, but government health officials say they've seen no rise in the condition associated with the current outbreak.
So far, the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have received five reports of GBS in people who received the H1N1 vaccine since Oct. 6, not including Jordan’s case, said Dr. Claudia J. Vellozzi, deputy director for immunization safety.
Out of about 40 million doses of H1N1 vaccine available to date, that’s a far lower rate of GBS than the 1 case that develops in every 1 million people who receive the regular flu vaccine.
"It's much less than we'd expect," she said, adding that many cases go unreported.
In 1976, about 1 additional case of GBS developed in every 100,000 people who were vaccinated against the swine flu, according to the CDC.
Jordan's parents said doctors diagnosed the teen with GBS, a rare muscle disorder that develops when a person’s own immune system attacks the nerves, causing muscle weakness, difficulty walking and sometimes paralysis and death.
Hospital officials didn't dispute that the boy had GBS, but refused to comment on the boy's condition or treatment, even after his family granted permission.
“They don’t want to create a fear or panic in the community,” said Jordan's stepmother, Connin.
Connin and Jordan’s father, Calvin McFarland, both 38, believe the shot sparked the illness that came on 18 hours after the boy’s vaccination.
No clear link
But Vellozzi said there’s no clear link between the new vaccine and the disease.
“We know that GBS and other illnesses occur routinely in the U.S.,” Vellozzi said, noting that 80 to 120 cases are diagnosed each week in the general population.
“There are events that follow vaccination. That’s what they are, they happened to follow vaccination.
BS is among the most severe adverse events being tracked with updated systems developed by the CDC, the Food and Drug Administration and the American Association of Neurology in order to monitor the rollout of the H1N1 flu vaccine.
So far, CDC officials have received about 1,700 reports of adverse events linked to the new shot, Vellozzi said. Of those, only about 4 percent, or 68, were coded as serious. That’s on par with reports regarding seasonal vaccine.
While any harmful side effect can be devastating for an individual, when it comes to larger public health issues, the H1N1 virus is considerably riskier than the vaccine, experts say.
“The H1N1 illness is making lots of children very ill," Vellozzi said. "There’s lots of illness and lots of death."
So far, more than 4,000 people have died from H1N1 infection in the U.S., according to latest estimates by the CDC.
Since the start of the H1N1 vaccine campaign, the CDC has repeatedly warned that certain conditions, such as miscarriage, heart attack and even GBS occur regardless of immunization, and officials have urged the public not to blame the vaccine for the illnesses, but to report promptly any suspected side effects.
As of early Wednesday, CDC officials said they had received no report from Inova Fairfax about Jordan's condition. Later in the day, however, hospital spokesman Tony Raker indicated the hospital had submitted the report.
After hearing about Jordan's case from msnbc.com, CDC officials advised the family to report Jordan's case themselves.
Vaccine critic Barbara Lowe Fisher, president of the National Vaccine Information Center in Vienna, Va., said assuming all potential side effects are coincidence is a mistake. Such an attitude is likely to prevent doctors and other health workers from reporting adverse events in a timely manner, obscuring a true picture of any problems.
Fisher said only between 1 percent and 10 percent of adverse events are reported to the government's Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, which was set up to track problems with vaccines. A 1986 law requires reporting of certain adverse events to VAERS, but there are no sanctions for not reporting, Fisher noted. CDC officials said general reporting to VAERS is voluntary.
Fisher said she suspects that many more cases of GBS have occurred in the wake of the H1N1 vaccines.
"We basically have people blowing it off," she said. "We need to make sure people are reporting."
Eager for protection
Like many parents across the country, Arlene Connin said she was eager to protect Jordan and his brother, Lleyton, 7, against the flu. When she took the boys to their pediatrician for seasonal flu shots on Nov. 5, the provider said H1N1 vaccine was available, too.
There was “not even a thought,” that either boy would have a reaction, Connin said. Within hours, however, Jordan developed severe headaches, chills and back spasms. The family rushed him to the closest hospital, Dewitt Army Community Hospital, where doctors conducted neurological exams, a CT scan and an EKG test.
The small hospital didn’t have the facilities to diagnose or treat Jordan’s illness, so he was transferred by ambulance on Nov. 6 to Inova Fairfax Hospital in Falls Church, Va., a spokesman said. Doctors there quickly gave Jordan intravenous immunoglobulin, a standard treatment for GBS, Connin said.
“GBS, that’s the diagnosis they gave us and that’s how they were treating him,” Connin said.
A hospital spokesman, Tony Raker, declined further comment on Jordan's case. When an msnbc.com photographer asked to view Jordan's chart, even with his father's permission, hospital officials refused.
Doctors are reluctant to discuss GBS in connection with vaccines, Connin said. Anti-vaccine groups frequently cite the disorder as evidence of vaccine dangers, which public health officials fear will discourage people from getting life-saving protection, especially in the case of H1N1.
Jordan’s experience has made his parents think hard about immunization, even though they’ve always insisted on annual flu shots. Under CDC guidelines for children 9 and younger, Lleyton should receive another booster shot of H1N1 vaccine to protect him fully against the virus.
“I have mixed emotions on that one,” Calvin McFarland, the boys’ father, said. “We’re not sure what we’re going to do about that.”
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General / Ukraine declares martial law following pneumonic plague outbreak
« on: November 12, 2009, 03:43:22 AM »
http://fto.co.za/news/ukraine-declares-martial-law-following-pneumonic-plague-outbreak-2009110615730.html
The Ukranian President Victor Yushchenko declared martial law yesterday and announced the National Security and Defense Council will become the supreme ruling authority following the rise of a new pneumonic plague outbreak.
Anyone that fails to comply with the NSDC will result in application to the law enforcement authorities, the president also said "“I instruct the Government and the Ministry of Health to immediately start preventive and promotional work in areas where there is no epidemic, targeting primarily the special risk groups,“"
The Ukrainian Health Minister Wasilij Knaizevicz also said the country's top prosecutor should open criminal proceedings against anyone opposing the implementation of mass flu vaccination campaigns.
“I demand the Government to immediately cancel the existing order of registration of medical supplies, including vaccines.”
“It is generally known that the only way to prevent any infection is vaccination,“ the address reads, “As the President I ask you, dear fellow citizens, to reconsider your attitude to vaccination and do it if necessary, but only, I emphasize it – only after consultation with the doctor.”
“this may lead to the emergence of an even more aggressive new virus”
The WHO however said that the strain of h1n1 in Ukraine seems no different than the normal swine flu break out elsewhere.
And chemtrails
http://fto.co.za/news/airplanes-sprayed-mysterious-substance-ukraine-days-pneumonic-plague-outbreak-2009110615732
The Ukranian President Victor Yushchenko declared martial law yesterday and announced the National Security and Defense Council will become the supreme ruling authority following the rise of a new pneumonic plague outbreak.
Anyone that fails to comply with the NSDC will result in application to the law enforcement authorities, the president also said "“I instruct the Government and the Ministry of Health to immediately start preventive and promotional work in areas where there is no epidemic, targeting primarily the special risk groups,“"
The Ukrainian Health Minister Wasilij Knaizevicz also said the country's top prosecutor should open criminal proceedings against anyone opposing the implementation of mass flu vaccination campaigns.
“I demand the Government to immediately cancel the existing order of registration of medical supplies, including vaccines.”
“It is generally known that the only way to prevent any infection is vaccination,“ the address reads, “As the President I ask you, dear fellow citizens, to reconsider your attitude to vaccination and do it if necessary, but only, I emphasize it – only after consultation with the doctor.”
“this may lead to the emergence of an even more aggressive new virus”
The WHO however said that the strain of h1n1 in Ukraine seems no different than the normal swine flu break out elsewhere.
And chemtrails
http://fto.co.za/news/airplanes-sprayed-mysterious-substance-ukraine-days-pneumonic-plague-outbreak-2009110615732
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General / Time bank!
« on: October 29, 2009, 03:50:25 AM »
Even in the midst of the recession, Portland, Maine, has a bank that's generating an unusual amount of wealth. It's a time bank called Hour Exchange Portland (HEP) and the wealth is an alternative currency called "time dollars." Spend an hour doing something for somebody else; deposit an hour into your time bank account as a time dollar. You now have one time dollar to spend on having someone do something for you. It's a simple idea that can help neighbors weather the recession while building stronger communities.
Time banks often have websites that list which services are offered and which are needed, like computer help, meals and pet-sitting. Members go online to arrange exchanges. Each bank is unique, reflecting the talents and skills of its members. HEP has more than 700 members, including a "muffin lady," a graphic artist and a physical therapist, and provides more than 1,600 services. Membership is exploding, according to several time bank programs, because the recession increases the number of under- and unemployed people who have more time on their hands and less money to purchase goods and services.
Click here to find out more!
Autumn Rooney started a time bank as an experiment in March of last year in the Echo Park neighborhood of Los Angeles. Twenty or so friends tried it out for the first few months, doing odd jobs for one another: A lawyer helped a photographer with copyright issues; a tailor fitted a wedding dress. But after a story about the group appeared in the Los Angeles Times, Rooney was flooded with applicants. Now she runs the Echo Park Time Bank full time, and has helped two nearby neighborhood groups get started.
"The goal is to get people to trust each other and to think differently about value," Rooney says. "Our current money system encourages competition, hoarding and scarcity. Time banking is different. We'll never run out of time dollars, as long as there are people."
According to Edgar Cahn, founder and CEO of TimeBanks USA, the practice is growing around the globe. Twenty-two countries host time banks, including the Dominican Republic, Israel and Japan; the U.S. has 200 programs and the U.K. has 110. Time banks can be grafted onto non-profit groups, churches or businesses, and each program has its own twists. London recently started a time bank program called Tutor Commuter that matches individuals with others who take the same bus or train so these folks can pick up a new skill like, say, speaking another language.
Portland, Maine, has many seniors wanting to remain at home, so nearly 30 percent of the HEP exchanges are health-related, says Lesley Jones, HEP's regional manager. Members also patronize other members' businesses, which helps them survive and grow despite the recession. "We are part of a vibrant community that supports its members and the Portland we love," says Jones.
http://www.odemagazine.com/doc/66/time-of-our-lives/
Time banks often have websites that list which services are offered and which are needed, like computer help, meals and pet-sitting. Members go online to arrange exchanges. Each bank is unique, reflecting the talents and skills of its members. HEP has more than 700 members, including a "muffin lady," a graphic artist and a physical therapist, and provides more than 1,600 services. Membership is exploding, according to several time bank programs, because the recession increases the number of under- and unemployed people who have more time on their hands and less money to purchase goods and services.
Click here to find out more!
Autumn Rooney started a time bank as an experiment in March of last year in the Echo Park neighborhood of Los Angeles. Twenty or so friends tried it out for the first few months, doing odd jobs for one another: A lawyer helped a photographer with copyright issues; a tailor fitted a wedding dress. But after a story about the group appeared in the Los Angeles Times, Rooney was flooded with applicants. Now she runs the Echo Park Time Bank full time, and has helped two nearby neighborhood groups get started.
"The goal is to get people to trust each other and to think differently about value," Rooney says. "Our current money system encourages competition, hoarding and scarcity. Time banking is different. We'll never run out of time dollars, as long as there are people."
According to Edgar Cahn, founder and CEO of TimeBanks USA, the practice is growing around the globe. Twenty-two countries host time banks, including the Dominican Republic, Israel and Japan; the U.S. has 200 programs and the U.K. has 110. Time banks can be grafted onto non-profit groups, churches or businesses, and each program has its own twists. London recently started a time bank program called Tutor Commuter that matches individuals with others who take the same bus or train so these folks can pick up a new skill like, say, speaking another language.
Portland, Maine, has many seniors wanting to remain at home, so nearly 30 percent of the HEP exchanges are health-related, says Lesley Jones, HEP's regional manager. Members also patronize other members' businesses, which helps them survive and grow despite the recession. "We are part of a vibrant community that supports its members and the Portland we love," says Jones.
http://www.odemagazine.com/doc/66/time-of-our-lives/
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General / What Video Games Are You Currently playing?
« on: October 29, 2009, 03:36:53 AM »
For PC I have been playing Dungeons and dragons online since it went free to play got a lvl 11 cleric and got a trial key for Fallen earth so i'm going to try it out.
and for Xbox ive been playing COD :WAW and battlefield 1943
So what games are you guys playing or do most of you hate games and just troll?
and for Xbox ive been playing COD :WAW and battlefield 1943
So what games are you guys playing or do most of you hate games and just troll?
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The Polling Pit / Should mark put his interviews on a seperate podcast?
« on: October 23, 2009, 01:50:46 AM »
I think he should put his interviews on separate podcast but leave it on the FTL stream for awhile till he gets a good amount of people downloading his podcast, then he could take it off and have his own podcast / interview show and could cross promote FTL and his podcast and even do some ads on his own podcast. and also should put it up on podcast alley.
and I personally like his interviews ; Maybe some people might like the interviews over FTL and get their dose of liberty that way
and I personally like his interviews ; Maybe some people might like the interviews over FTL and get their dose of liberty that way
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General / "Capitalism is evil," says new Michael Moore film
« on: September 06, 2009, 01:10:46 PM »
http://www.reuters.com/article/lifestyleMolt/idUSTRE5850F320090906
And to think I thought Michael Moore didn't like the government. He must Love Obama.
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By Mike Collett-White
VENICE (Reuters) - Capitalism is evil. That is the conclusion U.S. documentary maker Michael Moore comes to in his latest movie "Capitalism: A Love Story," which premieres at the Venice film festival Sunday.
Blending his trademark humor with tragic individual stories, archive footage and publicity stunts, the 55-year-old launches an all out attack on the capitalist system, arguing that it benefits the rich and condemns millions to poverty.
"Capitalism is an evil, and you cannot regulate evil," the two-hour movie concludes.
"You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy."
The bad guys in Moore's mind are big banks and hedge funds which "gambled" investors' money in complex derivatives that few, if any, really understood and which belonged in the casino.
Meanwhile, large companies have been prepared to lay off thousands of staff despite boasting record profits.
The filmmaker also sees an uncomfortably close relationship between banks, politicians and U.S. Treasury officials, meaning that regulation has been changed to favor the few on Wall Street rather than the many on Main Street.
He says that by encouraging Americans to borrow against the value of their homes, businesses created the conditions that led to the crisis, and with it homelessness and unemployment.
Moore even features priests who say capitalism is anti-Christian by failing to protect the poor.
"Essentially we have a law which says gambling is illegal but we've allowed Wall Street to do this and they've played with people's money and taken it into these crazy areas of derivatives," Moore told an audience in Venice.
"They need more than just regulation. We need to structure ourselves differently in order to create finance and money, support for jobs, businesses, etc."
GREEN SHOOTS?
Amid the gloom, Moore detects the beginnings of a popular movement against unbridled capitalism, and believes President Barack Obama's rise to power may bolster it.
"Democracy is not a spectator sport, it's a participatory event," he told a news conference. "If we don't participate in it, it ceases to be a democracy. So Obama will rise or fall based not so much on what he does but on what we do to support him."
Moore also warned other countries around the world against following the recent U.S. economic and political model.
The film follows factory workers who stage a sit-in at a Chicago glass factory when they are sacked with little warning and no pay and who eventually prevail over the bank.
And a group of citizens occupies a home that has been repossessed and boarded up by the lending company, forcing the police who come to evict them to back down.
The film re-visits some of Moore's earlier movies, including a trip to his native Flint where his father was a car assembly line worker and was able to buy a home, a car, educate his children and look forward to a decent pension.
But he brings it up to date with an examination of the financial crisis, demanding to speak to the bosses of companies at the center of the collapse and demanding that banks give back the hundreds of billions of bailout dollars to the country.
And he interviews an employee of a firm which buys up re-possessed, or "distressed" properties at a fraction of their original value and which is called Condo Vultures.
And to think I thought Michael Moore didn't like the government. He must Love Obama.
--------------------------------------------------------
By Mike Collett-White
VENICE (Reuters) - Capitalism is evil. That is the conclusion U.S. documentary maker Michael Moore comes to in his latest movie "Capitalism: A Love Story," which premieres at the Venice film festival Sunday.
Blending his trademark humor with tragic individual stories, archive footage and publicity stunts, the 55-year-old launches an all out attack on the capitalist system, arguing that it benefits the rich and condemns millions to poverty.
"Capitalism is an evil, and you cannot regulate evil," the two-hour movie concludes.
"You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy."
The bad guys in Moore's mind are big banks and hedge funds which "gambled" investors' money in complex derivatives that few, if any, really understood and which belonged in the casino.
Meanwhile, large companies have been prepared to lay off thousands of staff despite boasting record profits.
The filmmaker also sees an uncomfortably close relationship between banks, politicians and U.S. Treasury officials, meaning that regulation has been changed to favor the few on Wall Street rather than the many on Main Street.
He says that by encouraging Americans to borrow against the value of their homes, businesses created the conditions that led to the crisis, and with it homelessness and unemployment.
Moore even features priests who say capitalism is anti-Christian by failing to protect the poor.
"Essentially we have a law which says gambling is illegal but we've allowed Wall Street to do this and they've played with people's money and taken it into these crazy areas of derivatives," Moore told an audience in Venice.
"They need more than just regulation. We need to structure ourselves differently in order to create finance and money, support for jobs, businesses, etc."
GREEN SHOOTS?
Amid the gloom, Moore detects the beginnings of a popular movement against unbridled capitalism, and believes President Barack Obama's rise to power may bolster it.
"Democracy is not a spectator sport, it's a participatory event," he told a news conference. "If we don't participate in it, it ceases to be a democracy. So Obama will rise or fall based not so much on what he does but on what we do to support him."
Moore also warned other countries around the world against following the recent U.S. economic and political model.
The film follows factory workers who stage a sit-in at a Chicago glass factory when they are sacked with little warning and no pay and who eventually prevail over the bank.
And a group of citizens occupies a home that has been repossessed and boarded up by the lending company, forcing the police who come to evict them to back down.
The film re-visits some of Moore's earlier movies, including a trip to his native Flint where his father was a car assembly line worker and was able to buy a home, a car, educate his children and look forward to a decent pension.
But he brings it up to date with an examination of the financial crisis, demanding to speak to the bosses of companies at the center of the collapse and demanding that banks give back the hundreds of billions of bailout dollars to the country.
And he interviews an employee of a firm which buys up re-possessed, or "distressed" properties at a fraction of their original value and which is called Condo Vultures.
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General / calling all trolls
« on: August 30, 2009, 12:00:31 AM »
Please join this forum and harass the state worshipers
http://www.washingtonvotes.org/
create a account here
http://www.washingtonvotes.org/Account.aspx
http://www.washingtonvotes.org/
create a account here
http://www.washingtonvotes.org/Account.aspx
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General / Another way to record police stops
« on: August 04, 2009, 04:26:41 PM »
http://cinch.blogtalkradio.com/
call number, it gets recorded and it is put out as a rss feed on your blog
call number, it gets recorded and it is put out as a rss feed on your blog
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General / Crazy Lady Yells At Skaters (With Subtitles)
« on: August 03, 2009, 12:15:58 PM »
[youtube=425,350]klCSyq0Ii14[/youtube] 
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The Polling Pit / Topless protest and Julia's Participation
« on: July 29, 2009, 04:23:01 PM »
My opinions on the matter are that I like the idea of the topless protest and it could get the FSP / FTL some Very good press maybe even national papers.
I think they should Start from private property and walk to the public park and have people start bombarding the local press with calls of a topless protest going on in the park, and hopefully they will show up before cops
And with Julia going topless, she better like Being oogled at By Thousands of guys due to her semi celebrity status.
But otherwise I think she should go with pasty or body paint FTL on her chest, or maybe one of the Shirts/pants that make it look like she is naked
I think they should Start from private property and walk to the public park and have people start bombarding the local press with calls of a topless protest going on in the park, and hopefully they will show up before cops
And with Julia going topless, she better like Being oogled at By Thousands of guys due to her semi celebrity status.
But otherwise I think she should go with pasty or body paint FTL on her chest, or maybe one of the Shirts/pants that make it look like she is naked
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General / GIRL BURNS KITTEN AS "A PRACTICAL JOKE"
« on: June 26, 2009, 08:21:49 PM »
I found this on another forum so i thought I would post it here, And anyway I think someone should find her myspace/facebook and any personal info on her and post it on 4chan so the kitty can get some revenge!
Petition site link doesn't work
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/06/06/2009-06-06_cheyenne_cherry_teen_accused_of_burning_cat_in_oven_was_busted_in_2008_in_armed_.html
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Petition site link doesn't work
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2009/06/06/2009-06-06_cheyenne_cherry_teen_accused_of_burning_cat_in_oven_was_busted_in_2008_in_armed_.html
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Quote from: Kandal
[size=200]GIRL BURNS KITTEN AS "A PRACTICAL JOKE"[/size]QuoteCheyenne Cherry is a kitten killing monster. That's all there is to say about her.
SIGN THIS PETITION TO HAVE HER TRIED AS AN ADULT:
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/332/pe...
Also for those saying her skin color has anything to do with this, it really doesn't. I didn't once mention the color of her skin in this video and it all has the same effect. The girl, no matter what her race, is just disturbed.
[youtube]drD_lAo2Eo4[/youtube]
Cheyenne Cherry
Poor Cat
http://www.erickwithnok.com/post/119053429/cheyenne-cherry-is-a-kitten-killing-monster
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General / NASA to bomb the moon
« on: June 25, 2009, 03:27:49 AM »
A California spacecraft, bound for deliberate doom inside a crater on the moon, is scheduled to soar into space today, along with a lunar orbiter searching for safe landing sites where humans might one day establish Earth's first colony.
In early October, the spacecraft will send a heavy rocket crashing into the moon's south polar region on a mission to find water that could support future crews bound for Mars. With its mission finished, the spacecraft itself then will die in its own final crash into the lunar surface.
The water-seeking mission was conceived, developed and now is controlled by space scientists and engineers at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View.
Their spacecraft bears the unwieldy name of LCROSS - the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite - and in a sense is merely hitching a ride on an Atlas rocket whose main job is to launch NASA's new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter. That spacecraft will spend at least a year creating the most minutely detailed map of the moon's surface ever seen.
Flying over the moon's southern hemisphere, LCROSS will use its high-precision instruments, as well as close-up images of the terrain gathered by the lunar orbiter, to seek out a crater just shallow enough and dark enough to be a prime bombing target.
There, acting as what the Ames team calls its "shepherding spacecraft," LCROSS will guide an empty Centaur rocket weighing two tons toward its target. The rocket will crash into the crater at 5,600 mph, creating a new crater - perhaps as large as 5 miles wide. The crash is scheduled to occur Oct. 9.
Scientists on Earth expect the impact to blast out a huge cloud of dust, gas and vaporized water ice at least 6 miles high. The cloud will be clearly visible to astronomers at Earth-bound observatories and the Hubble Space Telescope's new planetary camera, allowing each to observe and collect data on its composition.
Astronomers have long thought that a rain of comets brought water to the arid, lifeless moon over billions of years. In the past few years, at least two American spacecraft reported the presence of water by detecting hints of hydrogen and oxygen - the constituents of water - frozen deep in the darkest recesses of craters around both the north and south lunar poles.
Because an ample supply of water could help provide unlimited fuel for any future moon base, seeking it out has been a high-priority mission for NASA leaders still bent on implementing former President George W. Bush's "vision for space exploration" that Bush said would start with "a foothold on the moon."
Whether the Obama administration pursues that goal with as high a priority remains an open political question.
But to Anthony Colaprete, a planetary physicist and chief scientist for the LCROSS mission, the brilliant burst of matter his crashing Centaur will eject is the ultimate goal of the current mission.
"In only a few seconds, we'll see the brilliant flash from the crash," he said Wednesday from Cape Canaveral. "The ejecta should show first as a single bright, shimmering star; we're calling it sunrise. Seconds later, even modest telescopes on Earth should see two blurry stars as the ejecta spreads wider and higher."
Those blurry lights would show as stars of the fourth or fifth magnitude, Colaprete said - possibly as bright as the Andromeda nebula. That spectacle may last only 60 seconds or so, Colaprete said, but it will signal that the Centaur's crash has created a fresh crater up to 5 miles wide at a carefully selected spot inside the larger target crater.
Within 10 minutes, dense material ejected from that crater should rise some 6 miles high, with the water ice - perhaps billions of years old, if it exists at all - turning instantly to vapor. And within an hour, detectable hydrogen and oxygen should rise as high as 60 miles, according to calculations by Colaprete's team at Ames.
After the Centaur rocket crash, LCROSS, its fuel spent, will slam into the lunar surface as well, its job done.
The lunar orbiter, meanwhile, will continue its looping flights around the moon from pole to pole, and as the moon rotates beneath it, the orbiter will eventually have mapped the entire surface. On the way, it will send back images of flat regions inside or beyond the craters - the flat areas to be listed as potential sites for future lunar bases, if and when those bases are to be built.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/17/MNJ41887O2.DTL
Commentary
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m6d19-NASA-moon-bombing-violates-space-law--may-cause-conflict-with-lunar-extraterrestrial-civilizations
In early October, the spacecraft will send a heavy rocket crashing into the moon's south polar region on a mission to find water that could support future crews bound for Mars. With its mission finished, the spacecraft itself then will die in its own final crash into the lunar surface.
The water-seeking mission was conceived, developed and now is controlled by space scientists and engineers at NASA's Ames Research Center in Mountain View.
Their spacecraft bears the unwieldy name of LCROSS - the Lunar Crater Observation and Sensing Satellite - and in a sense is merely hitching a ride on an Atlas rocket whose main job is to launch NASA's new Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter. That spacecraft will spend at least a year creating the most minutely detailed map of the moon's surface ever seen.
Flying over the moon's southern hemisphere, LCROSS will use its high-precision instruments, as well as close-up images of the terrain gathered by the lunar orbiter, to seek out a crater just shallow enough and dark enough to be a prime bombing target.
There, acting as what the Ames team calls its "shepherding spacecraft," LCROSS will guide an empty Centaur rocket weighing two tons toward its target. The rocket will crash into the crater at 5,600 mph, creating a new crater - perhaps as large as 5 miles wide. The crash is scheduled to occur Oct. 9.
Scientists on Earth expect the impact to blast out a huge cloud of dust, gas and vaporized water ice at least 6 miles high. The cloud will be clearly visible to astronomers at Earth-bound observatories and the Hubble Space Telescope's new planetary camera, allowing each to observe and collect data on its composition.
Astronomers have long thought that a rain of comets brought water to the arid, lifeless moon over billions of years. In the past few years, at least two American spacecraft reported the presence of water by detecting hints of hydrogen and oxygen - the constituents of water - frozen deep in the darkest recesses of craters around both the north and south lunar poles.
Because an ample supply of water could help provide unlimited fuel for any future moon base, seeking it out has been a high-priority mission for NASA leaders still bent on implementing former President George W. Bush's "vision for space exploration" that Bush said would start with "a foothold on the moon."
Whether the Obama administration pursues that goal with as high a priority remains an open political question.
But to Anthony Colaprete, a planetary physicist and chief scientist for the LCROSS mission, the brilliant burst of matter his crashing Centaur will eject is the ultimate goal of the current mission.
"In only a few seconds, we'll see the brilliant flash from the crash," he said Wednesday from Cape Canaveral. "The ejecta should show first as a single bright, shimmering star; we're calling it sunrise. Seconds later, even modest telescopes on Earth should see two blurry stars as the ejecta spreads wider and higher."
Those blurry lights would show as stars of the fourth or fifth magnitude, Colaprete said - possibly as bright as the Andromeda nebula. That spectacle may last only 60 seconds or so, Colaprete said, but it will signal that the Centaur's crash has created a fresh crater up to 5 miles wide at a carefully selected spot inside the larger target crater.
Within 10 minutes, dense material ejected from that crater should rise some 6 miles high, with the water ice - perhaps billions of years old, if it exists at all - turning instantly to vapor. And within an hour, detectable hydrogen and oxygen should rise as high as 60 miles, according to calculations by Colaprete's team at Ames.
After the Centaur rocket crash, LCROSS, its fuel spent, will slam into the lunar surface as well, its job done.
The lunar orbiter, meanwhile, will continue its looping flights around the moon from pole to pole, and as the moon rotates beneath it, the orbiter will eventually have mapped the entire surface. On the way, it will send back images of flat regions inside or beyond the craters - the flat areas to be listed as potential sites for future lunar bases, if and when those bases are to be built.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2009/06/17/MNJ41887O2.DTL
Commentary
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-2912-Seattle-Exopolitics-Examiner~y2009m6d19-NASA-moon-bombing-violates-space-law--may-cause-conflict-with-lunar-extraterrestrial-civilizations
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General / Some promotion service for podcasts
« on: June 24, 2009, 03:10:59 AM »
http://thebpguide.com/talkshoe/ 5 bucks a month, maybe you guys can try it
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General / Barrel ‘monster’ gets N.C. student arrested
« on: June 18, 2009, 12:47:12 PM »
Pictures at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31395158/ns/us_news-weird_news/
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RALEIGH, N.C. - When Joseph Carnevale chopped up three stolen orange and white traffic barrels from a construction site to create a massive sculpture of a roadside monster thumbing a ride, the North Carolina college student said he saw it as a form of street art.
Raleigh, N.C., police just saw vandalism.
They dismantled the 10-foot "barrel monster" and arrested Carnevale. Hundreds of online supporters want the charges dropped and the publicity has turned the history major and part-time construction worker into a local celebrity.
Even the construction company has become a fan, and wants the 21-year-old to create a replica of the figure that led to his arrest on June 10.
"It's surprising how many people have called attention to it," Carnevale said.
'It was something I had to do'
The college junior hadn't spent much time planning when he set out the night of May 31 and snatched the barrels from the site near the North Carolina State University campus where he studies.
"I had the idea in class that morning, and it kind of grew in my head, until it was something I had to do," he said. He went back to his Raleigh apartment and in an hour and a half returned to the site to assemble the freshly painted pieces before driving away.
What emerged was a hulking figure that seemed to extend a thumb, seeking a ride from passing cars. The next morning Raleigh Police dismantled the creation and took the pieces in for evidence while they searched for the perpetrator.
Although photos quickly spread on the Internet featuring the "barrel monster," it was an N.C. State newspaper article that offered enough clues to lead police to a Web site that identified Carnevale. Police charged him with larceny and destruction of property, both misdemeanors, and he's scheduled to appear in court next month.
Carnevale, an Indianapolis native, prides himself on his street art, but said he's most interested in guerrilla photography — making art and snapping images from restricted locations.
"If you can break the rules, and no one knows they were broken in the first place, then there's no point," he said.
His apartment walls serve as a canvas, covered in various hues of paint, with images on the walls and doors of sharks, hollow skulls and even Gandhi. His 1997 Volkswagen Jetta is almost completely covered in hot-glued beer bottle caps.
Carnevale has made other street art pieces with stolen barrels, including an alligator and caricatures with small arms.
'It's been positive publicity for us'
Hamlin Associates, the construction company whose barrels were turned into a monster, doesn't want to press charges.
"We've had a fair amount of vandalism, but never anyone turn it into art," Company President Steven Hussey said. "I actually thought it was pretty neat."
Hussey said the value of the publicity his company has received is well above the $365 cost of the traffic barrels that Carnevale used.
"It's been positive publicity for us," he said. "If we'd known he'd do that good of a work, we'd have given him the barrels."
Carnevale said he's weighing Hussey's offer to reconstruct the monster for the company's offices in Climax, N.C., possibly for pay. Meanwhile, at least three Facebook support groups have formed to support Carnevale, including "Don't Charge Joseph Carnevale," boasting more than 800 members.
Raleigh police spokeswoman Laura Hourigan said the charges won't be dropped, despite the company's stance.
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RALEIGH, N.C. - When Joseph Carnevale chopped up three stolen orange and white traffic barrels from a construction site to create a massive sculpture of a roadside monster thumbing a ride, the North Carolina college student said he saw it as a form of street art.
Raleigh, N.C., police just saw vandalism.
They dismantled the 10-foot "barrel monster" and arrested Carnevale. Hundreds of online supporters want the charges dropped and the publicity has turned the history major and part-time construction worker into a local celebrity.
Even the construction company has become a fan, and wants the 21-year-old to create a replica of the figure that led to his arrest on June 10.
"It's surprising how many people have called attention to it," Carnevale said.
'It was something I had to do'
The college junior hadn't spent much time planning when he set out the night of May 31 and snatched the barrels from the site near the North Carolina State University campus where he studies.
"I had the idea in class that morning, and it kind of grew in my head, until it was something I had to do," he said. He went back to his Raleigh apartment and in an hour and a half returned to the site to assemble the freshly painted pieces before driving away.
What emerged was a hulking figure that seemed to extend a thumb, seeking a ride from passing cars. The next morning Raleigh Police dismantled the creation and took the pieces in for evidence while they searched for the perpetrator.
Although photos quickly spread on the Internet featuring the "barrel monster," it was an N.C. State newspaper article that offered enough clues to lead police to a Web site that identified Carnevale. Police charged him with larceny and destruction of property, both misdemeanors, and he's scheduled to appear in court next month.
Carnevale, an Indianapolis native, prides himself on his street art, but said he's most interested in guerrilla photography — making art and snapping images from restricted locations.
"If you can break the rules, and no one knows they were broken in the first place, then there's no point," he said.
His apartment walls serve as a canvas, covered in various hues of paint, with images on the walls and doors of sharks, hollow skulls and even Gandhi. His 1997 Volkswagen Jetta is almost completely covered in hot-glued beer bottle caps.
Carnevale has made other street art pieces with stolen barrels, including an alligator and caricatures with small arms.
'It's been positive publicity for us'
Hamlin Associates, the construction company whose barrels were turned into a monster, doesn't want to press charges.
"We've had a fair amount of vandalism, but never anyone turn it into art," Company President Steven Hussey said. "I actually thought it was pretty neat."
Hussey said the value of the publicity his company has received is well above the $365 cost of the traffic barrels that Carnevale used.
"It's been positive publicity for us," he said. "If we'd known he'd do that good of a work, we'd have given him the barrels."
Carnevale said he's weighing Hussey's offer to reconstruct the monster for the company's offices in Climax, N.C., possibly for pay. Meanwhile, at least three Facebook support groups have formed to support Carnevale, including "Don't Charge Joseph Carnevale," boasting more than 800 members.
Raleigh police spokeswoman Laura Hourigan said the charges won't be dropped, despite the company's stance.