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The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: February 14, 2013, 05:38:08 PM »
I appreciate the modest way you described your lifestyle. Generally doms tend to sound like braggarts.
One person being subordinate to another is acceptable or it isn't. Whether a person wants to voluntarily submit towards their partner because it gets them off or because their invisible sky daddy said to do so can't be a factor, sorry. (Assault or kidnapping is never exceptable)
I find it repugnant either way, but it is none of my business. A person taking the dominant role to make the one they love happy is no less a liberty lover then someone who wants every body equal. I don't even know if relationships where everybody is equal last very long. I would love to hear from a totally even and happy couple who were married for 20 years and has 3 independent grown children. I bet it doesn't exist. My argument is that many women want to be taken care of and generally libertarian men are not offering these females the security and confidence of an alpha and maybe they should.
One person being subordinate to another is acceptable or it isn't. Whether a person wants to voluntarily submit towards their partner because it gets them off or because their invisible sky daddy said to do so can't be a factor, sorry. (Assault or kidnapping is never exceptable)
I find it repugnant either way, but it is none of my business. A person taking the dominant role to make the one they love happy is no less a liberty lover then someone who wants every body equal. I don't even know if relationships where everybody is equal last very long. I would love to hear from a totally even and happy couple who were married for 20 years and has 3 independent grown children. I bet it doesn't exist. My argument is that many women want to be taken care of and generally libertarian men are not offering these females the security and confidence of an alpha and maybe they should.
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The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: February 05, 2013, 12:32:33 PM »
Why do you think I am trolling you? I am not even disagreeing with you. You tried to gay up the thread and instead of deleting your annoying shenanigans I respectively used YOUR video to help make the point from the OP. The answering video was actually pretty hard to find. Not a lot of videos mentioning happy compliant women on Youtube oddly enough. Lots of videos about men being submissive though, both gay and straight. But simply put how can you say I am trolling you on my thread responding to your post?
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The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: February 04, 2013, 03:31:48 PM »79
The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: February 04, 2013, 12:34:06 AM »
It was a voluntary womens group run by women. What the hell are you talking about? If you got your pool boy, you don't think others from outside the lifestyle would look down at him? Wouldn't a freestater hetero couple with a obviously dominating partner be judged unkindly by other freestaters? Both videos were sickening. They looked down on passive people, one just used comedy to do so. Again who sticks what in who isn't the issue. I don't know what Muslims couples do in the bedroom. I am just saying this is the world we live in and we should except that some people want to be taken care of by and be beholdant too another person.
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General / Re: Stefan Molyneux an absolute bigot
« on: February 03, 2013, 04:30:25 PM »
Photo of my Dad about 14 years ago in his homemade glass blowing shop. Strongest man I ever had to deal with. Could walk for miles at a time. Believe it or not he was one of the ground breakers in the survivalist movement started in the 70's. He was kind of a Rhodes scholar of practical skills. He died this summer in a head on collision. My Mom was passenger in the minivan and survived. He couldn't get any more to the right before the pickup hit them because of the guard rail.
I don't tell a lot of fat jokes.
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The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: February 03, 2013, 04:12:21 PM »
Both videos are about happy submissive people.
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General / Re: NASA Scandal
« on: February 03, 2013, 11:01:26 AM »
They were saved Sam. They are on the dark side of the moon now in the secret base. Isn't that nice? Why does everyone assume the NWO is so mean.
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General / Re: Stefan Molyneux an absolute bigot
« on: February 03, 2013, 10:55:26 AM »
I pointed out the dress argument to prove that many gays DO have a axe to grind on the nurture argument. If my young son wanted to wear a dress I would have to point out to him that he was misrepresenting himself and why. A parent has a duty to raise their kid in the real world. "You realise if you wear that dress the other kids will make your life a living hell right?"
Keep in mind that other parents judge you. If I knew a gay couple with kids I would suggest they raise their kids in a very conservative way and tell the children why they are doing so. I think they do most of the time anyway. CPS can make a good parents life a living hell.
My parenting style is very truth based.
Ernest Hemingway was forced to wear a dress as a child and he was pretty straight. That is proof enough that a dress wouldn't make someone gay. He was all sorts of messed up though. More sad proof from the Canadian David Reimer phtt://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer. Trying to force someone to be what they are not is definitely bad.
I fact initiation of force always is.
Keep in mind that other parents judge you. If I knew a gay couple with kids I would suggest they raise their kids in a very conservative way and tell the children why they are doing so. I think they do most of the time anyway. CPS can make a good parents life a living hell.
My parenting style is very truth based.
Ernest Hemingway was forced to wear a dress as a child and he was pretty straight. That is proof enough that a dress wouldn't make someone gay. He was all sorts of messed up though. More sad proof from the Canadian David Reimer phtt://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Reimer. Trying to force someone to be what they are not is definitely bad.
I fact initiation of force always is.
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The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: February 03, 2013, 08:51:03 AM »
'Obedient Wives Club' Says, Good Sex Is A Wife's Duty
Discuss. Why is Dale's video funny, and mine slightly disgusting? Or do they make the same point?
Discuss. Why is Dale's video funny, and mine slightly disgusting? Or do they make the same point?
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General / Re: Stefan Molyneux an absolute bigot
« on: February 03, 2013, 08:27:13 AM »
Me thinks you should get the chip off your shoulder. I don't like censorship or threatening speech. You have indicated that I have something against gays several times. I don't have any openly gay friends, but I have intervened, with great personal risk, to save gay people from violence and verbal abuse even when I was a young Republican. Stefan is very precise in his speech. Maybe he is full of shit on his theories about NVC and UPB but we don't know at this point, no generation has been raised this way. When something is unproven you can pretty much postulate any thing you want. I actually think raising kids without any challenges or natural anger (although I think spanking unproductive) is a bad idea. What will be awesome is a world where saying "I am a homosexual" means as much in a casual conversation as stating ones shoe size.* That is what both myself and Molyneux are working towards.
*Of course if you are looking for a lover, saying ones sexual preference would be a important fact to get out there. If I am attracted to it.... I would fuck it. So it doesn't really matter in my case. No dicks so far but you never know.....
*Of course if you are looking for a lover, saying ones sexual preference would be a important fact to get out there. If I am attracted to it.... I would fuck it. So it doesn't really matter in my case. No dicks so far but you never know.....
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General / Re: Stefan Molyneux an absolute bigot
« on: February 03, 2013, 06:24:41 AM »
I don't care that you are gay. Do you support letting a boy wear a dress, if he asks, at the age of three? Ask Dale what he thinks of forcing children to be straight or gay and the harm it does. Of course nurture has positive or negative effects on children. Dale mentioned how a car wreck turned a former man's man into a person who was as gay as a barrel of monkeys. I don't know. I do applaud Molyneux for being honest about his opinions. Can't we observe a person actually infringing on someone who is a member of a group before we call him a racist?
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General / Re: Stefan Molyneux an absolute bigot
« on: February 03, 2013, 04:57:20 AM »
I think it a little odd that Molyneux is getting so many haters here lately for mere observations. If you know a gay person who was raised in a loving home with a happy, lifetime married couple and had no premature sexual experiences, have the person call in. I think environment has something to do with how you turn out, and I think this is a beautiful thing, so I have no argument against him.
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The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: February 02, 2013, 05:46:10 AM »
Good point.
No one is the alpha all the time. We are humans, the same person could be the leader in one place and a subordanant in another. Someone shouting from the rooftops in a kindergarden that they are the dominant one is just a dumbass.
As far as sex parteners go, I think it would be a little wacky to discuss a complete blocking of the sex before I did it with a new person, but if you have pigonholed yourself into only certain acts I guess I can see the practical reasons for having a honest approach.
Remember though that I don't claim to understand women at all, maybe they would like a complete run through. Maybe it would be a good rule of thumb for any top.
No one is the alpha all the time. We are humans, the same person could be the leader in one place and a subordanant in another. Someone shouting from the rooftops in a kindergarden that they are the dominant one is just a dumbass.
As far as sex parteners go, I think it would be a little wacky to discuss a complete blocking of the sex before I did it with a new person, but if you have pigonholed yourself into only certain acts I guess I can see the practical reasons for having a honest approach.
Remember though that I don't claim to understand women at all, maybe they would like a complete run through. Maybe it would be a good rule of thumb for any top.
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The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: February 01, 2013, 05:17:33 PM »
Even with me admitting tops have their place in the liberty movement, I still don't think it is a good idea to claim to be one in liberty minded company. If you are a alpha sort of person people just know.
Zoochosis: "Case 2: Love"
I don't really regret deleting that pointless book of threats, accusations, and insults that Dale and MWD turned my thread (where I really was trying to just figure it out) into, but I do feel bad about getting pissed off and deleting my brilliant Santorum thread.
Zoochosis: "Case 2: Love"
I don't really regret deleting that pointless book of threats, accusations, and insults that Dale and MWD turned my thread (where I really was trying to just figure it out) into, but I do feel bad about getting pissed off and deleting my brilliant Santorum thread.
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The Rubber Room - Not Safe for Work / Re: Tops Bottoms and Liberty 2
« on: January 31, 2013, 03:38:05 PM »
I never understood why Tops, either Kink or gay, seem to get all defensive when questioned. What a couple physically does is easy to defend, as long as everything is consensual its none of anybody's business. A person who wants to dominate in a relationship is another question entirely. What I never got was a answer I could easily give to a square or a feminist or just a person who wants a business like relationship with their sex partner.
I never wanted to put anyone down. I was always just trying to come up with a reasonable answer to a question I knew would come up. "How can a libertarian be dominant?" When I heard the reaction to the Typical Libertarian Chick (or whatever)'s take on women, and your complaint on Facebook that compliant boys were non too common, I started to think "Maybe libertarians are offering nothing to these people, so that is why there are so few of them."
I haven't quite got the easily excepted answer down to a bumper sticker yet, but I am getting there. I don't find generalised details of who sticks what in who all that helpful to the question to be honest.
I never wanted to put anyone down. I was always just trying to come up with a reasonable answer to a question I knew would come up. "How can a libertarian be dominant?" When I heard the reaction to the Typical Libertarian Chick (or whatever)'s take on women, and your complaint on Facebook that compliant boys were non too common, I started to think "Maybe libertarians are offering nothing to these people, so that is why there are so few of them."
I haven't quite got the easily excepted answer down to a bumper sticker yet, but I am getting there. I don't find generalised details of who sticks what in who all that helpful to the question to be honest.