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Guns, Drugs, and Crazy Independence Stuff / Tried to submit this under show prep, didn't see any goddamn captcha.
« on: July 12, 2012, 07:17:22 PM »
So here's the story here!
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120712/METRO02/207120447/1361/Troy-teen-not-guilty-on-all-counts-in-open-carry-gun-case
Bloomfield Hills— A recent Troy High School graduate was acquitted Thursday of all charges in his arrest for carrying a rifle through downtown Birmingham.
A jury in 48th District Court found Sean M. Combs, 18, not guilty of brandishing a firearm and disturbing the peace. Wednesday, Judge Marc Barron issued a directed verdict dismissing a charge of resisting and obstructing a police officer after Combs' attorney, James Makowski, argued that city attorney Mary Kucharek had not proven that offense.
"I think they came up with the right verdict," Combs said after his acquittal. "It took them a while, but at the end of the day, I think it was the right decision."
Outside the courtroom, Combs was all smiles as he hugged his mother, Pam Mytnik. His brothers and girlfriend, Lia Grabowski, also were present.
Mytnik said she was nervous during the case because "I'm depending on seven people who don't know my son."
She said she hopes the case encourages people to know the law.
"I just think everyone needs to know the laws before we make arrests, and I would like to see that in the future," said Mytnik.
Combs' attorney said he was pleased with the verdict.
"I've said from the beginning this is not a gun rights case, this is a civil rights case," Makowski said after the decision. "Birmingham Police violated his civil rights by arresting him that night."
Kucharek declined to comment on the verdict.
Combs was arrested April 12 after police found him with the M1 carbine strapped to his back. The jury of six men and one woman deliberated Wednesday for more than two hours, then resumed deliberations Thursday morning, delivering the verdict shortly before noon.
All the offenses were misdemeanors punishable by up to 93 days in jail and $500 fines.
Late Wednesday afternoon, the jurors advised the judge they had come to an agreement on the brandishing count but not on the disturbing the peace charge.
Combs, the son of a retired Ferndale police officer, said he and a girlfriend had gone to Birmingham to see a movie and had some spare time, so he decided to walk around the business district with the rifle to exercise his open carry rights under Michigan law.
He said he was walking to a parking lot to return the rifle to his car when he was confronted by officers Rebekah Springer and Gina Potts, who demanded to see his identification.
He drew a crowd of teenagers when he refused, prompting the officers to call in another officer, who subsequently arrested Combs.
"It was about freedom of speech and freedom of expression," Combs said as to why he was carrying the rifle around. "It's my way of saying what I believe in."
In closing arguments Wednesday, Kucharek told jurors that the case was not about the Second Amendment or any of Combs' civil rights, but rather his interest in "showing off" an antique 1940s rifle his brother had given him for his 18th birthday.
"It was about choices, choices he made that night," she said. "He made a choice to conduct himself in a loud, boisterous manner when questioned by police.
"He wanted to open carry, because it is something he always wanted to do. He and his girlfriend spent an hour and a half walking around the downtown 'doing laps.' He was feeling good about himself and showing off to his girlfriend."
She stressed that Combs was arrested only after he repeatedly refused to provide identification showing he was of legal age, at least 18, to be carrying a weapon. While Combs never pointed or threatened anyone with the weapon, he carried it in an "ostentatious" manner, she said, which is defined as brandishing in dictionaries.
"He was showing off," she told the jury. "He liked the attention. He wanted to shock people."
Makowski stressed that it is not a legal requirement to provide identification to police.
The police officers all testified that Combs appeared several years younger than 18, and that when questioned, he became loud, drawing a crowd of teenagers.
"Angry that night? I would have been if someone had questioned my rights," said Makowski. "It doesn't matter if you agree with open carry or it makes you uncomfortable. It's the law."
The case is a victory for open carry advocates, Makowski said.
The next step for Combs is to finish out his summer vacation before he starts school at Oakland Community College, where he says he will study engineering. As for whether he will be carrying his rifle around in public again, he said "in the recent future probably not, but the rest of my life, maybe."
"At least this confirms that I can."
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120712/METRO02/207120447#ixzz20S9eu3oY
tl;dr Teen tries to exercise his rights under the Second Amendment of the US Constitution in an open-carry state, gets harassed by pigs over it
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120712/METRO02/207120447/1361/Troy-teen-not-guilty-on-all-counts-in-open-carry-gun-case
Bloomfield Hills— A recent Troy High School graduate was acquitted Thursday of all charges in his arrest for carrying a rifle through downtown Birmingham.
A jury in 48th District Court found Sean M. Combs, 18, not guilty of brandishing a firearm and disturbing the peace. Wednesday, Judge Marc Barron issued a directed verdict dismissing a charge of resisting and obstructing a police officer after Combs' attorney, James Makowski, argued that city attorney Mary Kucharek had not proven that offense.
"I think they came up with the right verdict," Combs said after his acquittal. "It took them a while, but at the end of the day, I think it was the right decision."
Outside the courtroom, Combs was all smiles as he hugged his mother, Pam Mytnik. His brothers and girlfriend, Lia Grabowski, also were present.
Mytnik said she was nervous during the case because "I'm depending on seven people who don't know my son."
She said she hopes the case encourages people to know the law.
"I just think everyone needs to know the laws before we make arrests, and I would like to see that in the future," said Mytnik.
Combs' attorney said he was pleased with the verdict.
"I've said from the beginning this is not a gun rights case, this is a civil rights case," Makowski said after the decision. "Birmingham Police violated his civil rights by arresting him that night."
Kucharek declined to comment on the verdict.
Combs was arrested April 12 after police found him with the M1 carbine strapped to his back. The jury of six men and one woman deliberated Wednesday for more than two hours, then resumed deliberations Thursday morning, delivering the verdict shortly before noon.
All the offenses were misdemeanors punishable by up to 93 days in jail and $500 fines.
Late Wednesday afternoon, the jurors advised the judge they had come to an agreement on the brandishing count but not on the disturbing the peace charge.
Combs, the son of a retired Ferndale police officer, said he and a girlfriend had gone to Birmingham to see a movie and had some spare time, so he decided to walk around the business district with the rifle to exercise his open carry rights under Michigan law.
He said he was walking to a parking lot to return the rifle to his car when he was confronted by officers Rebekah Springer and Gina Potts, who demanded to see his identification.
He drew a crowd of teenagers when he refused, prompting the officers to call in another officer, who subsequently arrested Combs.
"It was about freedom of speech and freedom of expression," Combs said as to why he was carrying the rifle around. "It's my way of saying what I believe in."
In closing arguments Wednesday, Kucharek told jurors that the case was not about the Second Amendment or any of Combs' civil rights, but rather his interest in "showing off" an antique 1940s rifle his brother had given him for his 18th birthday.
"It was about choices, choices he made that night," she said. "He made a choice to conduct himself in a loud, boisterous manner when questioned by police.
"He wanted to open carry, because it is something he always wanted to do. He and his girlfriend spent an hour and a half walking around the downtown 'doing laps.' He was feeling good about himself and showing off to his girlfriend."
She stressed that Combs was arrested only after he repeatedly refused to provide identification showing he was of legal age, at least 18, to be carrying a weapon. While Combs never pointed or threatened anyone with the weapon, he carried it in an "ostentatious" manner, she said, which is defined as brandishing in dictionaries.
"He was showing off," she told the jury. "He liked the attention. He wanted to shock people."
Makowski stressed that it is not a legal requirement to provide identification to police.
The police officers all testified that Combs appeared several years younger than 18, and that when questioned, he became loud, drawing a crowd of teenagers.
"Angry that night? I would have been if someone had questioned my rights," said Makowski. "It doesn't matter if you agree with open carry or it makes you uncomfortable. It's the law."
The case is a victory for open carry advocates, Makowski said.
The next step for Combs is to finish out his summer vacation before he starts school at Oakland Community College, where he says he will study engineering. As for whether he will be carrying his rifle around in public again, he said "in the recent future probably not, but the rest of my life, maybe."
"At least this confirms that I can."
From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120712/METRO02/207120447#ixzz20S9eu3oY
tl;dr Teen tries to exercise his rights under the Second Amendment of the US Constitution in an open-carry state, gets harassed by pigs over it
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General / **DEFINITIVE** Dolph Lundgren Thread
« on: February 15, 2011, 01:02:40 AM »
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General / US gov to Canadian gov: "Please don't look at Wikileaks"
« on: November 26, 2010, 06:29:11 AM »
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2010/11/24/wikileaks-ottawa.html
So if they're looking at your shit it should be okay because you should have nothing to hide, but when the US gov does shady shit you shouldn't care because they're the government and they're here to help.
Quote from: The CBC
The U.S. government has notified Ottawa that the WikiLeaks website is preparing to release sensitive U.S. diplomatic files that could damage U.S. relations with allies around the world.
U.S. officials say the documents may contain accounts of compromising conversations with political dissidents and friendly politicians and could result in the expulsion of U.S. diplomats from foreign postings.
David Jacobson, the U.S. ambassador to Canada, has phoned Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon to inform him of the pending release by WikiLeaks of sensitive U.S. diplomatic files David Jacobson, the U.S. ambassador to Canada, has phoned Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon to inform him of the pending release by WikiLeaks of sensitive U.S. diplomatic files (CBC)
A Foreign Affairs spokeswoman said the U.S. ambassador to Canada, David Jacobson, has phoned Minister of Foreign Affairs Lawrence Cannon to inform him of the matter.
Melissa Lantsman said the Canadian Embassy in Washington is "currently engaging" with the U.S. State Department on the matter.
A State Department spokesman said Wednesday the release of confidential communications about foreign governments probably will erode trust in the United States as a diplomatic partner.
U.S. diplomatic outposts around the world have begun notifying other governments that WikiLeaks may release the documents in the next few days.
So if they're looking at your shit it should be okay because you should have nothing to hide, but when the US gov does shady shit you shouldn't care because they're the government and they're here to help.
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General / Oh fuck, UVB-76 is active again.
« on: August 25, 2010, 12:26:06 AM »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UVB-76#Voice_messages
http://uvb-76.blogspot.com/
Well, we're all gonna die.
http://uvb-76.blogspot.com/
Well, we're all gonna die.
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General / Speaking of Sharia law, apparently if someone paralyzes you you can paralyze him
« on: August 21, 2010, 02:39:35 AM »
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100819/ap_on_re_mi_ea/ml_saudi_justice
By SALAH NASRAWI, Associated Press Writer Salah Nasrawi, Associated Press Writer – Thu Aug 19, 3:26 pm ET
CAIRO – A Saudi judge has asked several hospitals in the country whether they could damage a man's spinal cord as punishment after he was convicted of attacking another man with a cleaver and paralyzing him, the brother of the victim said Thursday.
Abdul-Aziz al-Mutairi, 22, was left paralyzed and subsequently lost a foot after a fight more than two years ago. He asked a judge in northwestern Tabuk province to impose an equivalent punishment on his attacker under Islamic law, his brother Khaled al-Mutairi told The Associated Press by telephone from there.
He said one of the hospitals, located in Tabuk, responded that it is possible to damage the spinal cord, but it added that the operation would have to be done at another more specialized facility. Saudi newspapers reported that a second hospital in the capital Riyadh declined, saying it could not inflict such harm.
Administrative offices of two of the hospitals and the court in Tabuk were closed for the Saudi weekend beginning Thursday and could not be reached for comment.
A copy of the medical report from the King Khaled Hospital in Tabuk province obtained by the AP said the same injury al-Mutairi suffers from can be inflicted on his attacker using a nerve stimulant, and inducing the same injuries in the same locations. The report was dated six months ago.
Saudi Arabia enforces strict Islamic law and occasionally doles out punishments based on the ancient legal code of an eye-for-an-eye. However, King Abdullah has been trying to clamp down on extremist ideology, including unauthorized clerics issuing odd religious decrees.
The query by the court, among the most unusual and extreme to have been made public in the kingdom, highlights the delicate attempt in Saudi Arabia to balance a push to modernize the country with interpretations of religious traditions that critics say are out of sync with a modern society.
The Saudi newspaper Okaz identified the judge as Saoud bin Suleiman al-Youssef.
The brother said the judge asked at least two hospitals for a medical opinion on whether surgeons could render the attacker's spinal cord nonfunctional. He and Saudi newspaper reports did not identify the attacker
Khaled al-Mutairi, 27, said the assailant was sentenced to 14 months in prison for the attack that paralyzed his younger brother, but he was released after seven months in an amnesty. He said the attacker then got a job as a school teacher .
"We are asking for our legal right under Islamic law," the brother said. "There is no better word than God's word — an eye for an eye."
A Saudi newspaper Okaz reported that a leading hospital in Riyadh — King Faisal Specialist Hospital — responded that it could not do the operation. It quoted a letter from the hospital saying "inflicting such harm is not possible," apparently refusing on ethical grounds.
Islamic law applied in Saudi Arabia allows defendants to ask for a similar punishment for harms inflicted on them. Cutting off the hands of thieves, for example, is common.
Under the law, the victim can receive a blood money to settle the case.
Khaled al-Mutairi said his family is not interested in blood money, and would be ready to send the attacker abroad to perform the operation if it were not possible in the kingdom.
Human rights group say trials in Saudi Arabia fall far below international standards. They usually take place behind closed doors and without adequate legal representation.
Those who are sentenced to death are often not informed of the progress of legal proceedings against them or of the date of execution until the morning on which they are taken out and beheaded.
Crucifying the headless body in a public place is a way to set an example, according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.
Amnesty International expressed concerns over the reports and said the rights group was contacting Saudi authorities for details.
"We are very concerned and we will appeal to the authorities not to carry out such a punishment," said Lamri Chirouf, the group's researcher on Saudi Arabia. Such measures are against international conventions against torture and international standards on human rights.
Chirouf said this was the first time Amnesty had heard of a punishment involving the damaging of a spinal cord.
"But it's hard to follow details of the Saudi justice system. People are sentenced in closed trials with no access to the public and no lawyers," he said.
According to Amnesty, in 2005, a convict in the kingdom had his teeth pulled out by a dentist because he had smashed another man's teeth out in a fight.
"We have also had cases of people sentenced to blindness because they have caused the blindness of another person," Chirouf said. "But never anything involving a spinal cord."
____
Associated Press Writer Sarah El Deeb contributed to this report from Cairo.
By SALAH NASRAWI, Associated Press Writer Salah Nasrawi, Associated Press Writer – Thu Aug 19, 3:26 pm ET
CAIRO – A Saudi judge has asked several hospitals in the country whether they could damage a man's spinal cord as punishment after he was convicted of attacking another man with a cleaver and paralyzing him, the brother of the victim said Thursday.
Abdul-Aziz al-Mutairi, 22, was left paralyzed and subsequently lost a foot after a fight more than two years ago. He asked a judge in northwestern Tabuk province to impose an equivalent punishment on his attacker under Islamic law, his brother Khaled al-Mutairi told The Associated Press by telephone from there.
He said one of the hospitals, located in Tabuk, responded that it is possible to damage the spinal cord, but it added that the operation would have to be done at another more specialized facility. Saudi newspapers reported that a second hospital in the capital Riyadh declined, saying it could not inflict such harm.
Administrative offices of two of the hospitals and the court in Tabuk were closed for the Saudi weekend beginning Thursday and could not be reached for comment.
A copy of the medical report from the King Khaled Hospital in Tabuk province obtained by the AP said the same injury al-Mutairi suffers from can be inflicted on his attacker using a nerve stimulant, and inducing the same injuries in the same locations. The report was dated six months ago.
Saudi Arabia enforces strict Islamic law and occasionally doles out punishments based on the ancient legal code of an eye-for-an-eye. However, King Abdullah has been trying to clamp down on extremist ideology, including unauthorized clerics issuing odd religious decrees.
The query by the court, among the most unusual and extreme to have been made public in the kingdom, highlights the delicate attempt in Saudi Arabia to balance a push to modernize the country with interpretations of religious traditions that critics say are out of sync with a modern society.
The Saudi newspaper Okaz identified the judge as Saoud bin Suleiman al-Youssef.
The brother said the judge asked at least two hospitals for a medical opinion on whether surgeons could render the attacker's spinal cord nonfunctional. He and Saudi newspaper reports did not identify the attacker
Khaled al-Mutairi, 27, said the assailant was sentenced to 14 months in prison for the attack that paralyzed his younger brother, but he was released after seven months in an amnesty. He said the attacker then got a job as a school teacher .
"We are asking for our legal right under Islamic law," the brother said. "There is no better word than God's word — an eye for an eye."
A Saudi newspaper Okaz reported that a leading hospital in Riyadh — King Faisal Specialist Hospital — responded that it could not do the operation. It quoted a letter from the hospital saying "inflicting such harm is not possible," apparently refusing on ethical grounds.
Islamic law applied in Saudi Arabia allows defendants to ask for a similar punishment for harms inflicted on them. Cutting off the hands of thieves, for example, is common.
Under the law, the victim can receive a blood money to settle the case.
Khaled al-Mutairi said his family is not interested in blood money, and would be ready to send the attacker abroad to perform the operation if it were not possible in the kingdom.
Human rights group say trials in Saudi Arabia fall far below international standards. They usually take place behind closed doors and without adequate legal representation.
Those who are sentenced to death are often not informed of the progress of legal proceedings against them or of the date of execution until the morning on which they are taken out and beheaded.
Crucifying the headless body in a public place is a way to set an example, according to the kingdom's strict interpretation of Islam.
Amnesty International expressed concerns over the reports and said the rights group was contacting Saudi authorities for details.
"We are very concerned and we will appeal to the authorities not to carry out such a punishment," said Lamri Chirouf, the group's researcher on Saudi Arabia. Such measures are against international conventions against torture and international standards on human rights.
Chirouf said this was the first time Amnesty had heard of a punishment involving the damaging of a spinal cord.
"But it's hard to follow details of the Saudi justice system. People are sentenced in closed trials with no access to the public and no lawyers," he said.
According to Amnesty, in 2005, a convict in the kingdom had his teeth pulled out by a dentist because he had smashed another man's teeth out in a fight.
"We have also had cases of people sentenced to blindness because they have caused the blindness of another person," Chirouf said. "But never anything involving a spinal cord."
____
Associated Press Writer Sarah El Deeb contributed to this report from Cairo.
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General / So is Tyra supposed to be a low-rent Oprah, or something?
« on: August 16, 2010, 07:38:41 PM »
I was watching her show earlier and she reminds me of Donahue, sort of, but lighter and fluffier. The topic was teens fucking and one teen said she went to an underground sex party multiple times when she was 14 and had sex with guys and girls.
Who takes underage girls to sex parties? This doesn't sound like a good idea, because this sounds like if it gets raided by the police for whatever reason they'd have an excuse to bust everyone there for statutory rape.
Then again Tyra seems to have a lot of warped aesops, like talking about hazing . . . involving girls who were in military school . . . when if you're in military school generally you've done some funky shit to get your parents to send you there in the first place . . .
Who takes underage girls to sex parties? This doesn't sound like a good idea, because this sounds like if it gets raided by the police for whatever reason they'd have an excuse to bust everyone there for statutory rape.
Then again Tyra seems to have a lot of warped aesops, like talking about hazing . . . involving girls who were in military school . . . when if you're in military school generally you've done some funky shit to get your parents to send you there in the first place . . .
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General / Some of you may be asking - what is Aprilism? Well, here is a partial Ideal:
« on: August 11, 2010, 05:34:09 PM »
The twenty-one points of Aprilism dictate the following:
1. People are to be relocated from the cities to the country, or otherwise rural areas. Each person shall be allotted no less than five acres of unclaimed land for his or her own. Each family shall receive no less than 40 acres, portions to be given to each child as they reach the age of majority, or a spouse gets half of it in the case of divorce. Land shall devolve to the next of kin in case one should die, or refuse the continued protection of the Aprilist State. This shall constitute both redistribution of land and prevents the risk of land being held too long by the government. An agricultural society is to be encouraged for that seems to be the most sustainable, but as long as the majority of the people in one's Commune don't complain about what one is doing one may do as one wants.
2. The current moneyed incorporations are to be abolished and their assets confiscated by the government in order to fund national improvements, like roads, irrigation pipes, sustainable electricity generation, and fast post-broadband Internet access for each commune. The government will have the monopoly on public water, electricity, telephone and Internet.
3. There are no lifetime copyrights or patent laws. Copyright is valid for ten years; patents for twenty-five. Make money off of them while you can.
4. Money is to be minted in platinum, gold, palladium, silver, copper and tin coins, with a portrait of the Holy Domina April on them. One Aprilist dollar shall be nine-tenths of an ounce silver and one tenth of one ounce being copper, the other denominations and amounts of precious bullion on the coinage to be determined by the Mint and the Parliament every twenty-five years, but one tenth of each coin should be copper (not in the case of copper or tin coins) in order to sustain a long-lasting currency.
5. Certain goods are to be distributed via the government in the style of libertarian socialism. Grey markets may be tolerated in special marketplaces. A tax of ten Aprilist dollars will be paid for the privilege to use these marketplaces.
6. Prisons are to be mostly abolished. Corporal punishment and the death penalty are to be pursued in most cases. There will be a partial end to the prison-industrial complex. There will be no laws on the ingestion of what one wants to eat, but research into what one is smoking, eating, or drinking is to be encouraged.
7. Partial free market measures to be implemented. Private partnerships and businesses in which the proprietor is responsible for what goes wrong are to be encouraged. The government will have no role in giving money to one person or persons if one's business totally fails. That person will always have his or her land to fall back on.
8. Education to be developed as a public-private partnership. Those who score the highest on entrance exams to be admitted into the best colleges and universities.
9. Rebellions against the Holy Domina to be crushed and those who participate in them to be the exceptions to those who are not imprisoned. They will be used as indentured servants by the government for as long a period as the judiciary wishes them to do.
10. There are no limits to be on free speech, religion, press, or assembly as long as nothing about them results in violence towards others or towards agents of the Government. (See point 9.)
11. The Government will not engage in wars abroad. Wars against the Aprilist State shall be concluded in such a way that there is no conquest of territory or undue environmental damage to civilian population centers. The current use of atomic weapons, up to and including the use of depleted uranium, is to be abolished.
12. One may ask to be let loose from the protection of the State at any time. Retaliation on one by groups or persons of those who might not like those who wish to not be protected by the State shall not occur within the borders of the Aprilist State, and, if determined by a court of law that this has happened even outside the borders of the Aprilist State, shall result in one who has physically hurt this person to receive the penalty recommended by the judge.
13. There are to be no jury trials. Each trial shall be supervised by a group of three judges, who have served as barristers before the courts for a period not below seven years, who will then render the sentences as they see fit. Judges to be elected by the People at staggered intervals. The courts of the upper levels shall be elected by the upper house of government of each level of government, up to and including the Parliament of the Aprilist State.
14. Communes of 1000 people will be grouped into Districts of 10 to 100 Communes each. Districts may be grouped into Provinces of 5 to 10 each. The People shall elect the leaders of their Communes, who will then assign delegates to the Districts, the District delegates sending delegates to the Provincial legislatures, who will then send Senators to the upper house of Parliament. The People shall elect Representatives of their Communes to the lower houses, limited to two Representatives per Commune.
15. Each Commune shall decide what taxes it shall impose on the population. They will then send a tenth of that to the District government, which will send a tenth of that to the Provincial government, which shall send a tenth of that to the Government of the Aprilist State. Such will force each element of large government to become large and powerful at the expense of the smaller units. The same goes for those who pay for public water, electricity, Internet or phone to be brought to their land.
16. Postal service thought to be best in private hands shall be left in them, except for correspondence with the Government. Such may be deposited at local Government agencies.
17. There are to be no driver's, boat's, or pilot's licenses however those who damage others with the improper use of their vehicles will be publicly whipped and, if they lack private insurance, forced into indentured servitude to that person or to that person's next of kin for an amount of time not exceeding one year.
18. Private charities are to be encouraged. Aside from your land and a ration of food and water per person each month from the government, expect little else. In the case of life-threatening illness and medicine the Aprilist State will provide you what you need or, in the case of pain medication, the option to supply you with powerful marijuana to use as you see fit.
19. Crime is to be dealt with on as local a basis as possible, but police are to be subject to the same penalties as regular citizens. Any policeman found guilty of corruption is another exception to the "no prisoners" rule and is to be condemned to working in mines or otherwise harsh physical labor, the same of which goes for civil servants found guilty of corruption. White collar crime is to be punished harshly, but in perhaps a harsher manner than so-called "blue collar" crime.
20. Mineral and water rights are the rights of those who have their land and may sell them to whoever they wish for how much the market will pay for them, this including the government.
21. Contracts contracted in one Commune shall always be followed in all other Communes of the Aprilist State, providing those people have not been formally expelled from the Commune or Communes they had contracted said Contract in. Please note that this can mean any kind of contract, from marriage to a contract to use mineral rights. The various Governments are to be considered persons in the reasoning of the legal system.
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Found this in an old notebook, wonder what others here would think of it.
1. People are to be relocated from the cities to the country, or otherwise rural areas. Each person shall be allotted no less than five acres of unclaimed land for his or her own. Each family shall receive no less than 40 acres, portions to be given to each child as they reach the age of majority, or a spouse gets half of it in the case of divorce. Land shall devolve to the next of kin in case one should die, or refuse the continued protection of the Aprilist State. This shall constitute both redistribution of land and prevents the risk of land being held too long by the government. An agricultural society is to be encouraged for that seems to be the most sustainable, but as long as the majority of the people in one's Commune don't complain about what one is doing one may do as one wants.
2. The current moneyed incorporations are to be abolished and their assets confiscated by the government in order to fund national improvements, like roads, irrigation pipes, sustainable electricity generation, and fast post-broadband Internet access for each commune. The government will have the monopoly on public water, electricity, telephone and Internet.
3. There are no lifetime copyrights or patent laws. Copyright is valid for ten years; patents for twenty-five. Make money off of them while you can.
4. Money is to be minted in platinum, gold, palladium, silver, copper and tin coins, with a portrait of the Holy Domina April on them. One Aprilist dollar shall be nine-tenths of an ounce silver and one tenth of one ounce being copper, the other denominations and amounts of precious bullion on the coinage to be determined by the Mint and the Parliament every twenty-five years, but one tenth of each coin should be copper (not in the case of copper or tin coins) in order to sustain a long-lasting currency.
5. Certain goods are to be distributed via the government in the style of libertarian socialism. Grey markets may be tolerated in special marketplaces. A tax of ten Aprilist dollars will be paid for the privilege to use these marketplaces.
6. Prisons are to be mostly abolished. Corporal punishment and the death penalty are to be pursued in most cases. There will be a partial end to the prison-industrial complex. There will be no laws on the ingestion of what one wants to eat, but research into what one is smoking, eating, or drinking is to be encouraged.
7. Partial free market measures to be implemented. Private partnerships and businesses in which the proprietor is responsible for what goes wrong are to be encouraged. The government will have no role in giving money to one person or persons if one's business totally fails. That person will always have his or her land to fall back on.
8. Education to be developed as a public-private partnership. Those who score the highest on entrance exams to be admitted into the best colleges and universities.
9. Rebellions against the Holy Domina to be crushed and those who participate in them to be the exceptions to those who are not imprisoned. They will be used as indentured servants by the government for as long a period as the judiciary wishes them to do.
10. There are no limits to be on free speech, religion, press, or assembly as long as nothing about them results in violence towards others or towards agents of the Government. (See point 9.)
11. The Government will not engage in wars abroad. Wars against the Aprilist State shall be concluded in such a way that there is no conquest of territory or undue environmental damage to civilian population centers. The current use of atomic weapons, up to and including the use of depleted uranium, is to be abolished.
12. One may ask to be let loose from the protection of the State at any time. Retaliation on one by groups or persons of those who might not like those who wish to not be protected by the State shall not occur within the borders of the Aprilist State, and, if determined by a court of law that this has happened even outside the borders of the Aprilist State, shall result in one who has physically hurt this person to receive the penalty recommended by the judge.
13. There are to be no jury trials. Each trial shall be supervised by a group of three judges, who have served as barristers before the courts for a period not below seven years, who will then render the sentences as they see fit. Judges to be elected by the People at staggered intervals. The courts of the upper levels shall be elected by the upper house of government of each level of government, up to and including the Parliament of the Aprilist State.
14. Communes of 1000 people will be grouped into Districts of 10 to 100 Communes each. Districts may be grouped into Provinces of 5 to 10 each. The People shall elect the leaders of their Communes, who will then assign delegates to the Districts, the District delegates sending delegates to the Provincial legislatures, who will then send Senators to the upper house of Parliament. The People shall elect Representatives of their Communes to the lower houses, limited to two Representatives per Commune.
15. Each Commune shall decide what taxes it shall impose on the population. They will then send a tenth of that to the District government, which will send a tenth of that to the Provincial government, which shall send a tenth of that to the Government of the Aprilist State. Such will force each element of large government to become large and powerful at the expense of the smaller units. The same goes for those who pay for public water, electricity, Internet or phone to be brought to their land.
16. Postal service thought to be best in private hands shall be left in them, except for correspondence with the Government. Such may be deposited at local Government agencies.
17. There are to be no driver's, boat's, or pilot's licenses however those who damage others with the improper use of their vehicles will be publicly whipped and, if they lack private insurance, forced into indentured servitude to that person or to that person's next of kin for an amount of time not exceeding one year.
18. Private charities are to be encouraged. Aside from your land and a ration of food and water per person each month from the government, expect little else. In the case of life-threatening illness and medicine the Aprilist State will provide you what you need or, in the case of pain medication, the option to supply you with powerful marijuana to use as you see fit.
19. Crime is to be dealt with on as local a basis as possible, but police are to be subject to the same penalties as regular citizens. Any policeman found guilty of corruption is another exception to the "no prisoners" rule and is to be condemned to working in mines or otherwise harsh physical labor, the same of which goes for civil servants found guilty of corruption. White collar crime is to be punished harshly, but in perhaps a harsher manner than so-called "blue collar" crime.
20. Mineral and water rights are the rights of those who have their land and may sell them to whoever they wish for how much the market will pay for them, this including the government.
21. Contracts contracted in one Commune shall always be followed in all other Communes of the Aprilist State, providing those people have not been formally expelled from the Commune or Communes they had contracted said Contract in. Please note that this can mean any kind of contract, from marriage to a contract to use mineral rights. The various Governments are to be considered persons in the reasoning of the legal system.
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Found this in an old notebook, wonder what others here would think of it.
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General / Commodore 64 topic.
« on: July 29, 2010, 03:44:42 PM »
This is the general thread for C64 stuff. I'm just really getting into it with VICE for Windows (emulator), and I can easily see myself in the far future in a Scavenger World only having a C64 as my main computer.
First I learn of Linux for the C64, now I learn of Twitter for it.
http://www.vandenbrande.com/wp/2009/06/breadbox64-a-twitter-client-for-the-c64/
What hath God wrought?
First I learn of Linux for the C64, now I learn of Twitter for it.
http://www.vandenbrande.com/wp/2009/06/breadbox64-a-twitter-client-for-the-c64/
What hath God wrought?
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General / I don't get "sex."
« on: July 08, 2010, 02:27:54 AM »
It feels good, I've had it with other people, but I just don't like it. It's not fun, and it only really feels good when I play with myself. I'm not even sure if I'd have fun at an orgy, because looking at the beasts with two or three backs just makes me burst out with laughter.
I can understand the human drive to reproduce, and how only if it actually felt good humans would reproduce, but I don't feel the need to do so. Sex kinda disgusts me, really. Does all of this make me an artificial human?
I can understand the human drive to reproduce, and how only if it actually felt good humans would reproduce, but I don't feel the need to do so. Sex kinda disgusts me, really. Does all of this make me an artificial human?
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The Show / Show prep ain't working for me so I'm posting this here.
« on: June 23, 2010, 09:17:03 AM »
Time to go: Detroit school board president urged to honor resignation after alleged masturbation
Otis Mathis resigned Thursday as president of the Detroit Board of Education amid allegations he masturbated in front of superintendent Teresa Gueyser during a routine meeting.
One day later, Mathis attempted to rescind that resignation, blaming ongoing health problems for his "poor judgment."
The story proved another national embarrassment for a school district hoping to resurrect its image and another blow to the reputation of the board, which remains in an ongoing academic power struggle with state-appointed Emergency Financial Manager Robert Bobb.
Gueyser accused Mathis of the outrageous (and repeated) behavior in a letter last week to school board Vice President Anthony Adams, who later released the letter to the media.
June 18, Fox 2: On this day, President Mathis continued to fondle his genital area for approximately 20 minutes, or the entire time I was talking. At one point, I lifted some papers from my binder above my eyes to separate my peripheral view in order to avoid watching his activity. He then unzipped his pants and pulled a handkerchief from his left pocket, put the handkerchief in his right and and put his right hand with the handkerchief in the zipper area of his pants appearing to wipe himself. he then re-zipped and unzipped his pants again; again placing the handkerchief inside the zipper area; this time moving his hands as if to be masturbating in front of me.
While Mathis believes he deserves another chance, both of Detroit's daily newspapers today published harsh editorials criticizing both Mathis and fellow members who elected him to lead the board.
The Free Press editorial board pointed out that most board members have ignored Mathis' request to retract his resignation, but blamed them for electing him president in the first place and suggested the scandal further proves they've effectively lost their battle with Bobb.
June 22, Freep.com: The bad news is that the board majority that elected Mathis president earlier this year is still in place, and at least one of their number, the Reverend David Murray, has dismissed Mathis' over-the-top transgressions as a function of either the ex-board president's youth (Mathis is 55) or his naivete. ("Maybe he didn't know," Murray suggested Friday after Gueyser's accusations became public, "it was offensive to her.")
...Any lingering doubt that Detroit school children are better served by Bobb's continuing stewardship should vanish in the wake of the board's latest debacle.
The Detroit News took a softer stance, arguing Mathis should honor his resignation "for the children's sake," while renewing the call for mayoral control over the district.
But columnist Laura Berman, who previously reported Mathis has a learning disability and is unable to write a coherent sentence, took aim at the "school board of low expectations."
June 22, DetNews.com: In retrospect, the rise of Otis Mathis to that leadership role says as much about the current Detroit Board of Education as it does about Mathis.
This is the body that unanimously elected Mathis over Tyrone Winfrey, a board member who is an academic officer at the University of Michigan.
Mathis has succeeded over the years by never admitting defeat when he failed. Unable to meet academic requirements, he found ways around them.
...Maybe he felt compelled to test how low expectations might really go.
Mathis emptied his office and turned in his key last week. While it's highly unlikely he'll return to the board, his attempt indicates he's not ready to move on, even if the city needs him to.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2010/06/time_to_go_detroit_school_boar.html
Otis Mathis resigned Thursday as president of the Detroit Board of Education amid allegations he masturbated in front of superintendent Teresa Gueyser during a routine meeting.
One day later, Mathis attempted to rescind that resignation, blaming ongoing health problems for his "poor judgment."
The story proved another national embarrassment for a school district hoping to resurrect its image and another blow to the reputation of the board, which remains in an ongoing academic power struggle with state-appointed Emergency Financial Manager Robert Bobb.
Gueyser accused Mathis of the outrageous (and repeated) behavior in a letter last week to school board Vice President Anthony Adams, who later released the letter to the media.
June 18, Fox 2: On this day, President Mathis continued to fondle his genital area for approximately 20 minutes, or the entire time I was talking. At one point, I lifted some papers from my binder above my eyes to separate my peripheral view in order to avoid watching his activity. He then unzipped his pants and pulled a handkerchief from his left pocket, put the handkerchief in his right and and put his right hand with the handkerchief in the zipper area of his pants appearing to wipe himself. he then re-zipped and unzipped his pants again; again placing the handkerchief inside the zipper area; this time moving his hands as if to be masturbating in front of me.
While Mathis believes he deserves another chance, both of Detroit's daily newspapers today published harsh editorials criticizing both Mathis and fellow members who elected him to lead the board.
The Free Press editorial board pointed out that most board members have ignored Mathis' request to retract his resignation, but blamed them for electing him president in the first place and suggested the scandal further proves they've effectively lost their battle with Bobb.
June 22, Freep.com: The bad news is that the board majority that elected Mathis president earlier this year is still in place, and at least one of their number, the Reverend David Murray, has dismissed Mathis' over-the-top transgressions as a function of either the ex-board president's youth (Mathis is 55) or his naivete. ("Maybe he didn't know," Murray suggested Friday after Gueyser's accusations became public, "it was offensive to her.")
...Any lingering doubt that Detroit school children are better served by Bobb's continuing stewardship should vanish in the wake of the board's latest debacle.
The Detroit News took a softer stance, arguing Mathis should honor his resignation "for the children's sake," while renewing the call for mayoral control over the district.
But columnist Laura Berman, who previously reported Mathis has a learning disability and is unable to write a coherent sentence, took aim at the "school board of low expectations."
June 22, DetNews.com: In retrospect, the rise of Otis Mathis to that leadership role says as much about the current Detroit Board of Education as it does about Mathis.
This is the body that unanimously elected Mathis over Tyrone Winfrey, a board member who is an academic officer at the University of Michigan.
Mathis has succeeded over the years by never admitting defeat when he failed. Unable to meet academic requirements, he found ways around them.
...Maybe he felt compelled to test how low expectations might really go.
Mathis emptied his office and turned in his key last week. While it's highly unlikely he'll return to the board, his attempt indicates he's not ready to move on, even if the city needs him to.
http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2010/06/time_to_go_detroit_school_boar.html
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The Show / Apparently Ian and Mark are gonna be on Alex Jones today
« on: June 11, 2010, 12:08:50 PM »
Tuned in via internets, apparently Alex is having problems with the GCN HQ and he flipped to commercial.
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General / OK, someone tell me what account this guy has on either here or the FSP forum
« on: March 27, 2010, 11:27:08 AM »14
The Polling Pit / Under what circumstances would you resort to cannibalism?
« on: March 03, 2010, 11:55:52 AM »
Choose your choice!
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General / The Definitive "Things We Like About Colorado" thread
« on: March 02, 2010, 09:25:39 AM »
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