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General / Re: The FSP is a religion

« on: April 01, 2009, 06:07:49 PM »

I'd think Michigan would be a better place to go. 

Michigan (The state) is projecting a 7% increase in unemployment by the end of 2009.

The current rate is 12%.

That makes 19%, or one in five people.

Sure, come get some. :Rollseyes:

This is wrong. A 7% increase would be an increase of 7% of the present rate of unemployment, so 7% of 12% of the population.

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The Polling Pit / Re: Your favorite series.

« on: April 01, 2009, 04:36:40 PM »

The Wire has just strted here in the UK, so I am getting into that.

Most things Star Trek.

Buffy

Firefly (and Serenity)

X Files.

Heroes.

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General / Re: The FSP is dead

« on: April 01, 2009, 04:33:04 PM »

So just stupid numbers things. Meh. Thats still way more activists than here in WI. All we have is stupid Democrats radiating from Madison.

Absolutely. Here, every october, every libertarian in the UK comes to conference in October. We get record size conferences when a couple of hundred show up. Having that many in a place as small as NH would be a great improvement!

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General / Re: The FSP is dead

« on: April 01, 2009, 04:07:24 PM »

Slightly freer New Hampshire where you get to hang out with other libertarians but not make that much of a difference just doesn't have the same ring.

Sounds better than living here in the UK at the moment!

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General / Re: The FSP is dead

« on: April 01, 2009, 01:34:17 PM »

It was not till yesterday that I realized the smart idea behind the FSP.


Conservatives move to neighborhoods to raise their children and neighborhoods like Irvine are created. They block vote, and thereby get a good amount of representation.

Liberals did the same thing when they picked up and went to cities who were accepting to their views, so neighborhoods like the Village, Berkeley, and San Francisco were created.

If the FSP reaches critical mass by taking a dispersed group and concentrates them where block voting will change the cities they live in, the Free Staters can get their views into mainstream legislation.

Their combined voting will undo years of legislation, and decrease the level of harm the politicians are doing to the country rather then the .01% difference they would make in the elections of their former home cities.

Problem is NH isn't any one of those places.

Personally, I have much to risk both professionally and with my standard of living.  From looking at NH nothing compares to what I have now.  Taking the risk of losing this for something that doesn't appear to have much of chance for success is silly.  Like I said, I'd rather make due with what I've got now than risk it all for someplace I'd probably be miserable in.

Not me. I ran a shop in the UK, but the credit crunch has lead to it closing, and has made me redundant. If I could get a job in NH, I'd probably move quick.

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General / Re: Recipe Thread (Working on the title)

« on: April 01, 2009, 07:06:51 AM »

dude.
no onions????

A tiny amount. Not pictured. I use a lot of garlic. Like, two bulbs, and that combined with the sweetness of the pepper tastes just right.

I had chilli con carne last night.

Ground beef
Onion
Celery
four cloves of garlic
grated carrot
Mushrooms
A can of kidney beans,
two chilli peppers,
chilli powder
vegetable and beef stock (cubes)
Some Tabasco
A can of tomatos

I chop all the vegetables, then sweat them, with the beef, in a saucepan, so the beef absorbs their flavour. Then I mix the stock cubes and chilli powder in about three quarters of a pint of boiling water, and pour it over the beef and vegetables. I turn the power down and let it simmer for half an hour, to three quarters, so it has boiled down. Then I add the tomatoes and beans. While doing this I boil up some rice. When the sauce has boiled down a bit, I serve it over the rice.

This is basically the same as my bolognese, but for that, leave out the chilli and beans, maybe add some bacon to the ground beef, and add italian herbs, like Oregano.

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General / Re: Will it ever be possible to see into the past?

« on: March 31, 2009, 06:32:24 AM »

Will it ever be possible to see into the past?  (Like what you were doing in a locked room with no windows ten years ago.)

Isn't it called... remembering stuff?

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General / Re: What are you listening to?

« on: March 27, 2009, 06:43:37 PM »

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General / Re: There are three cards left to stop Socialism/Communisim

« on: March 26, 2009, 03:27:49 PM »

Do you think the U.S. Military will allow socialism/communism to be forced on the population by some air heads!

Yes

Why?

Hmmmmmm, why would tax funded government monopoly like the army quite like the complete regimentation and top down central planning of the economy? I can't imagine!

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General / Re: Bye, bye to masquerading as a libertarian

« on: March 24, 2009, 12:19:52 PM »

At this point many a libertarian will disown me & maybe will want to do worse to me just for saying government can do good. It’s been pointed out to me by folk who aren’t the most hardcore socialists that in Britain that government has pretty much ensured that no individual should go without food & shelter. Sure government isn’t perfect when it comes to implementation but at least government recognizes that food & shelter as a human right. Libertarians don’t consider food & shelter a right yet they believe in the right to life, well in my mind you can’t have the right to life unless you have the means to live life.

But if other people have rights over these means such that exercising these rights means that you are deprived of them as "means to live life" then you just get a clash of rights: Exercising your right prevents them from exercising their right, and their exercising their right prevents you exercising yours. The only way, then, that you can have a right to the means to live, then, whilst avoiding these rights clashes, is if those people do not have rights over those means, so their exercising those rights won't prevent you exercising yours. But what becomes of self-ownership in that environment?

Oh no Ziggy has crossed the threshold into positive liberty & become a hardcore socialist. Worth noting the man who coined the terms positive & negative liberty & warned of the use of positive liberty Isaiah Berlin himself was a social-liberal.

Not really relavent.

I know libertarian who’d say that Nick Clegg’s speech yesterday to conference was totally socialistic, which kind makes me laugh & suggest a libertarian should ask an actual socialist in Britain what they think about the Liberal Democrats. I actually know libertarians who think that the expectation to care for their fellow man is socialistic. But most libertarians I know remind me of Kevin The Teenager. Yeah stroppy teenagers an apt description because on the whole libertarians do seem to be stamping their feet & having a tantrum because they can’t always get their own way. I remember having to deal with Zyra’s whole ‘why do I have to pay tax’ whinge. I never told him that maybe because instead of taking insulin for his diabetes he makes himself life threatening ill. Oh & why is that wouldn’t be because he’s schizophrenic & therefore in need of assistance if only he appreciated that. Yeah I’m grateful people do pay taxes to fund help for those who are sick & vulnerable. I’m sorry if you don’t think you should care in some way about your fellow man then you’re a fucking sociopath.

But this is nonsense: It simply does not follow from the fact that you should care in some way for your fellow men, that you therefore have a right to steal from somebody to help your fellow man, or force somebody to work to help your fellow man. I can't think of a single libertarian who doesn't think you should care in some way about your fellow man. They just don't think "therefore it is OK to threaten to arrest, imprison and generally do bad things to people who don't give you their money" follows from "you should care in some way about your fellow man."
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The Polling Pit / Re: Anarchist or Minarchist?

« on: March 24, 2009, 10:58:52 AM »

Anarchist, but the topic is pretty academic at this point: just getting less government is what is important first

It's like the rabbit trying to decide if he should take action to keep from being shot entirely, or just avoid begin fatally shot. The efforts taken to escape the hunter are probably about the same either way in most situations. It is more a matter of how quickly and vigorously he attempts escape than whether he goes behind the trees or the barn.

Exactly. Enacting Rothbard's For a New Liberty would be better than Milton Friedman's Free to Choose, but that doesn't mean rejecting Free to Choose just because For a New Liberty is not available!

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The Polling Pit / Re: Anarchist or Minarchist?

« on: March 23, 2009, 04:14:21 PM »

Anarchist, but the topic is pretty academic at this point: just getting less government is what is important first

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General / Re: Free Audiobook: "The Market for Liberty"

« on: March 23, 2009, 01:25:24 PM »

I wonder whatever happened to Linda and Morris Tannehill. They wrote this book in the 80s and nobody heard from them again. If I were a conspiracy theorist I could only begin to speculate.

Actually, they wrote it in the sixties, and it was first published in 1971.

I heard that the Tannehills split up