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The Polling Pit / Re: A Questionnaire For "Pro-Lifers"
« on: February 06, 2008, 02:20:09 PM »
You think if someone throws a human in your yard he can rightfully come onto your property to get it?
Yes. You don't own the space, you own the grass and the house. As long as they do it without damaging your fence, grass, house, etc there's nothing wrong with going onto somebody else's property to get a stick or a human or something.

I guess I just take the hardline property rights view that any use whatsoever of another's property without consent is a violation of his right to use it, regardless of whether damage occurs.

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The Polling Pit / Re: Adults acting like children
« on: February 06, 2008, 02:16:13 PM »
There are plenty of adult chilldren on this board here....
Children that act like adults?
Vice-versa
Is that how English works?
Yes.

Do you have some evidence to back up your claim?

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General / Re: Digg! >> Of Primary States, Ron Paul Does Best in NH at 8%
« on: February 06, 2008, 01:53:45 PM »
I don't understand. The First 1000 has not yet been completed.

Are you just trying to be obscure, or are you actually interested in discussing this?

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The Polling Pit / Re: Super Tuesday & Ron Paul
« on: February 06, 2008, 01:50:14 PM »
Which is exactly why I think concentrating liberty activists is step number one.

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General / Re: Digg! >> Of Primary States, Ron Paul Does Best in NH at 8%
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:23:49 PM »
If I see mold in the french onion dip, I'm not gonna eat it.

So you think because the FSP hasn't achieved much neither will the First 1000?

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The Polling Pit / Re: Super Tuesday & Ron Paul
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:20:14 PM »
I mean freedom in the libertarian sense of the term.

Do you just have a problem admitting the possibility that pro-freedom candidates can win?

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The Polling Pit / Re: FSP opinions.
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:18:01 PM »
If 1000 liberty activists, not just MOVERS, moved to Nevada independent of the FSP would you reconsider?

Absolutely. I think people should move to wherever they think is best. If they think NV has a better chance, I've got no problem with that. In my opinion step number one is concentrating liberty activists, and NH seems to be doing better than NV at that. That's what it comes down to for me.

I think if we are fucked either way, we may as well give NH a shot.
That's like sinking the rest of your life savings into a losing horse because "I'm fucked anyways". Some people know when to cut and run, some people go down with the sinking ship over principle. I am not a lemming.

Actually the proposition is this:
1. If NV cannot achieve a free society;
2. and NH has the possibility;
3. then NH wins.

If NH does not have that possibility, then I would agree with you: freedom lovers should go to wherever is currently the freest. I think it does have the possibility though, and so NH wins.

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The Polling Pit / Re: Super Tuesday & Ron Paul
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:07:01 PM »
So, do you think pro-freedom candidates can win elections?
Sounds like a loaded question.

I'm just wondering if you think it is possible.

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General / Re: Digg! >> Of Primary States, Ron Paul Does Best in NH at 8%
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:04:52 PM »
I guess you might know if you'd tried it before. Have you tried the First 1000 before?

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The Polling Pit / Re: FSP opinions.
« on: February 06, 2008, 12:02:52 PM »
If you're going to stick to principles over practicality, then you've already lost.

I think my argument holds:
1. Goal: Free society.
2. Achieving the goal requires an increase in the concentration of liberty activists.
3. The FSP is the best chance for #2.
4. Therefore, NH wins over Nevada.

I understand you have a slightly different goal than me, but I don't think that makes my argument incorrect.

Principles don't mean shit in a state where people consistently vote to take away more of your rights.

I don't think that changes just because you move to NV.

I want as much freedom as I can get NOW.

I have a different goal. I want to establish a free society in my lifetime. If that means I have to work to get it, so be it. I think it's worth it.

So does Keene. 5 people out of 1000 in Grafton and 20 people in 20000 in Keene aren't gonna do shit.

You're probably right. But I disagree that NV has a better chance. I think if we are fucked either way, we may as well give NH a shot.

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General / Re: Digg! >> Of Primary States, Ron Paul Does Best in NH at 8%
« on: February 06, 2008, 11:50:10 AM »
You would have to be extremely mentally deficient to claim that it could never reach 20,000.
The exponential decay of new membership signups is proof. At the current rate, we'll both be dead before it even gets close to that number. So I was wrong in saying "never". More like 200 years from now.

How do you know how the First 1000 will affect the signup rate?

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The Polling Pit / Re: Super Tuesday & Ron Paul
« on: February 06, 2008, 11:47:04 AM »
I mean candidates that actually do reduce the scope and power of government.
Only 20% of the people want government reduced and SOME victimless crimes abolished. Less than .1% want it to be reduced to the state of Minarchism. Where are you gonna get the voters? You can persuade SOME people to join that 20%.

So, do you think pro-freedom candidates can win elections?

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The Polling Pit / Re: FSP opinions.
« on: February 06, 2008, 11:45:40 AM »
The People of Nevada.
Why do you think they have a better chance?
They have approved more freedom then any other state so far. Seems like they're in the lead to me.

I've thought about it, and I've come to the conclusion that it's the principle of the thing. I don't think a free society will be achieved without an outside influence, and I think the best chance for that is the Free State Project. Whether they have some more freedoms now is irrelevant if they are not on the path to liberty. That's what it comes down to, for me at least.

Isn't a defunct FTP better than nothing?
No, because that means it has failed and discourages anyone else from trying.

I think Grafton has a higher than normal percentage of FSP members. So it hasn't totally failed.


Kaze is Blackie/Prez/Sniper/John/MoneyD
Just a hunch.

I think it's Taors.

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The Polling Pit / Re: FSP opinions.
« on: February 06, 2008, 11:04:04 AM »
I hope it'll become viable in the future, but right now I just don't see it.
What has a better chance of achieving a free society?
The People of Nevada.

Why do you think they have a better chance?

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The Polling Pit / Re: FSP opinions.
« on: February 06, 2008, 10:47:52 AM »
I hope it'll become viable in the future, but right now I just don't see it.

What has a better chance of achieving a free society?

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