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General / Re: Bitcoin
« on: June 12, 2011, 01:52:30 PM »
I just spent a half hour taking a shit. I guess I should have wrapped it up and sold it to one of these bitcoin advocates.

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General / Re: Bitcoin
« on: June 12, 2011, 12:31:27 AM »
Musical chairs.

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General / Re: Dllama in the Free State
« on: June 08, 2011, 05:19:07 PM »
There is no FSP but NH, and KeithAndStuff is its prophet.

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General / Re: Dllama in the Free State
« on: June 07, 2011, 03:40:35 PM »
um, so why wouldn't it be a good idea to take your family?

Because it is being run by a bunch of douche bags who want to turn it into a party. 

Muppet, dude. Kate and Sharon have a crazy amount of kid stuff planned for Fest. This one will be way more family-oriented than ever.

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General / Re: Romans 13 (part 2)
« on: June 02, 2011, 06:20:47 PM »
RE: original post:

"Jesus Is an Anarchist"
http://www.anti-state.com/redford/redford4.html

There is a section in this article about Romans 13 which you may find useful.

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WAT?

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General / Re: Dllama in the Free State
« on: April 15, 2011, 05:40:13 PM »
However, I don't think that this is a gray area at all. This is a case by case scenario, surely, but it is totally black and white. A prepube can't properly consent to a sexual act, even if they say "Yes" when wheedled/begged/convinced/intimidated/brainwashed into it.

You don't get to tell me what I can't do.  I consented at age six with another boy my age, and again at age 10-11ish with a 16 year old.

Children can do whatever they want. It is the adult's responsibility to at the very least not act in a manner that would cause harm to the child.

"No, I will not buy you a cart of Oreos."

"No, I will not give you my crack to smoke."

"No, I will not put my cock in your asshole."

"No, I will not let you juggle my chainsaws."

"No, I will not cover you in lighter fluid and set you on fire."


"Well, he really wanted it" is not an excuse for abusing children.

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General / Re: Dllama in the Free State
« on: April 15, 2011, 12:56:00 AM »
I would hope that you would not want to hang out with homo-killing sympathizers.

First "nigger-lynchers" and now "homo-killing sympathizers"?  Isn't that a ridiculous comparison?  Those are clear cases of someone ready and willing to do harm versus someone who has screwed up notions about when consent is possible.  You're comparing an overtly violent criminal to a sick person.

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There is also hard evidence that individuals in Keene are not willing to denounce that idea and are willing to denounce the act of speaking about specific individuals who do.

I denounce the idea right now.  But if you're going to label someone as a bad person for believing that, how do you feel about Ian who has publicly expressed that he believes fairly young people could be capable of consent using the example of himself at 11?  Obviously he's still my friend.  I thought he was still your friend.

So there are two separate issues here-- a pretty fringe belief that very young people are capable of consent (political views) and the other thing is a bizarre attraction to children (psychology/personality/whatever).  I hope you agree by now that you can have an attraction and choose never to act on it, and such a person wouldn't be a bad person just for inclinations that they don't act on.  And I hope you don't think Ian is a bad person for having a pretty fringe political/moral belief that the fairly young may be capable of consent.  This guy is both, which certainly has a huge creepy factor, but that still doesn't mean he's likely to act on it.  I already went into that.

If I sincerely felt that he was likely to act on it, I would definitely feel some kind of action to protect children is called for, possibly up to and including a big public outing even if it meant drawing the wrath of an injust government.  I guess even then I wouldn't see him as bad person comparable to someone who actually sets out to harm someone like the analogies you made.  I would see someone like that as having a sickness and deluded beliefs that combine to make him dangerous.



But all my information is from gossip.

And once again, the issue has nothing to do with the personal preferences we are born with or have inflicted upon us through experience. I don't care whether you masturbate to children or kidnapped amputees. The issue is whether you espouse the behavior as BEING GOOD AND MORAL TO ENGAGE IN.

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General / Re: Dllama in the Free State
« on: April 14, 2011, 02:04:44 PM »
If someone says to you that they support lynching niggers, and in fact they really are stimulated by the thought of lynching a nigger, would you associate with that person? Would you tell people about it?

If you say that having an idea that lynching niggers is good is not the same as having an idea that fucking kids is good, then that is the source of the disconnect here.

Do you believe there are people in this country who would like to change the law so that homosexuals (like me) would be put to death?  I do.  Do you think I would like them to be punished for expressing that belief?  Well you'd be wrong.  I'll counter-speech them left and right and I will also counter-speech these pedophiles about children being able to consent.  I cannot, in good conscience, throw them to the wolves when they have not harmed anyone.

Would I choose to ostracize them?  Depending on what they said based on really reliable information, such as first-hand straight into my own ears or by multiple accounts from people I trust, if it led me to believe they were really bad people (e.g. nigger lynchers, clear child predators) then I probably would.  This whole thing is a gossip fest with very dangerous ramifications for people that I cannot pronounce guilty from what knowledge I have.  The crux of my issue is people acting rashly based on gossip.

What is the definition of punishment you are working with? Is not associating with someone punishment? Is letting others know about someone's expressed ideas punishment? If so, then I would need to distinguish between that type of punishment and, say, kicking someone in the nuts.

I would hope that you would not want to hang out with homo-killing sympathizers. To do otherwise would be horribly self-deprecating to yourself. I would also hope that you wouldn't go around kicking in the nuts people who have the idea that homo killing is good.

Stripping aside all the gossip, and setting aside the question of whether the young lady was crazy, there appears to be no dispute that there were people who espoused the idea that adult-child sexual exploration is good. There is also hard evidence that individuals in Keene are not willing to denounce that idea and are willing to denounce the act of speaking about specific individuals who do.

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General / Re: Dllama in the Free State
« on: April 14, 2011, 12:33:46 PM »
If someone says to you that they support lynching niggers, and in fact they really are stimulated by the thought of lynching a nigger, would you associate with that person? Would you tell people about it?

If you say that having an idea that lynching niggers is good is not the same as having an idea that fucking kids is good, then that is the source of the disconnect here.

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General / Re: Drifter -
« on: April 10, 2011, 11:00:38 PM »
Crack pipe.

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General / Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« on: March 25, 2011, 02:35:23 AM »
Rounds are better than bars because:

A: they are harder to fake with a lead filling
B: they look cooler
C: they can be both weighed AND measured with a caliper for accuracy
D: visually it is easier to spot a fake
E: they fit in my coin flips

(go with the rounds, I'm more likely to buy them over bars)

I agree with the function before fashion. Keep the cost down and we can buy more and you ultimately get more profit as well.

Good points. I'm convinced.

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General / Re: Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« on: March 24, 2011, 07:13:12 PM »
Why bars instead of rounds?

Coolness?

Maybe that should be another poll.

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General / Free Talk Live Silver Bar
« on: March 24, 2011, 05:37:38 PM »
So suppose you could order FTL one-ounce silver bars.

Would you rather purchase fancy mirrored-finish ones like the Lakota, or non-fancy matte-finished ones like the FSP?

Fancy costs about $2 more per piece.






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General / Re: OHSNAP. Atlas Shrugged Trailer -
« on: February 11, 2011, 06:47:30 PM »
Blonde Dagney Taggart is fail.

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