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General / Re: 8-21-09 show: Objectivism: Ayn Rand, Ian Freeman
« on: August 23, 2009, 09:31:34 PM »
ayn rand was a self-righteous cunt

Yes.  So true. 

The philosophy she followed strove to be the opposite of that though. She should have had a logical reason for every personal judgement she made. Each judgement should have been morally good in that it was beneficial to her and those she loved. Someone who is self righteous is an asshole because their morality operates outside the norm, often illogically hurting people. However if she was tearing someone down, I think that if you listened to her arguments you might agree with her.

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General / Re: topless protest is fucking retarded
« on: August 23, 2009, 09:26:57 PM »
They should just open a nudist colony.

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General / Re: 8-21-09 show: Objectivism: Ayn Rand, Ian Freeman
« on: August 23, 2009, 10:50:44 AM »
Ian's argument that Objectivism requires a leap of faith, and therefore isn't true by it's own philosophy simply isn't true. I think he was reacting to the atheism that tends to go along with Objectivism. He says that trusting in only what you perceive around you is a leap of faith. However comparing this to the leap of faith required to believe that an invisible man in the sky created us from his beneficent will, and how do we know this? A feeling, a feeling that we have in all places, our hearts, is a kind of cast iron pot calling the shiny kettle black. In fact objectivists don't even have that much faith in our perception, or rather we realize it has limits. Otherwise why would we use scientific instruments, computers, and other items that enhance our senses? Instead we start on a scale that's much more intellectual then just our perception, we start with logic, that identity A is identity A and if it is True, then it will always be true in context of all of our other concepts, identities, and perceptions (natural or technological). Holding illogical conflicting concepts and wrong precepts (truths that seem self evident) is the ultimate sin morally in Objectivism. If you believe an invisible man lives in the sky forever, that he is beneficent, and that he is all-powerful and all-knowing, then there better not be any unhappiness in the world and no mistakes on his part.

So yes, Ian's argument does not represent an attack on Objectivism, because it would entirely miss the point. It's instead an argument against atheism. (Hopefully without putting words in his mouth) He is saying that because atheists can't prove there isn't a creator, that religions are just as valid as atheism. However, he is not a Christian, Muslim, or even a buddhist. He doesn't believe in any of the thousands of faiths he probably hasn't even had contact with. He fails to realize that he is already an atheist on so many different religions, but true atheists just go one more. If anything that argument only holds for the binary question of whether there is a creator spirit (Yes or No). So I would say Atheism holds 50% of that probability sphere because it doesn't assume a complex set of behavior pleases a diety only that there isn't one, and all the religions share the other 50%. Imagine a gigantic venn diagram, not just three dimensional but multi-dimensional.

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General / Re: Border patrol fail...
« on: August 22, 2009, 07:15:18 PM »
If you can't Beat them then laugh at them? But those officers weren't laughing.

Please someone take that clip and make it loop at various points so it looks like fifty immigrants got out of that van! At current count there was only thirteen.

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General / Re: New Micheal Moore movie. *Puke*
« on: August 22, 2009, 06:41:07 PM »
I predict every argument can be used just as relevently against socialism/communism.

I also predict that he will confuse all of the parts of mercantilism, which socialism is also privy too, and call it capitalism.

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General / Re: I'm Not Paid Enough (I think?)
« on: August 21, 2009, 08:45:54 AM »
tell your boss what you just told us and see what he thinks you should do.

But phrase it in a way that will be beneficial to him, I.E.

Instead of, "I need a supervisor position because I am not getting paid enough."

say,

"You should make me the supervisor of this position because I am already doing that work and you can hire another person to run this machine while retasking the previous supervisor and increasing production while keeping the same quality."

Write up a proposal so you have such bullet points memorized beforehand.

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General / Re: He or She?
« on: August 21, 2009, 08:08:36 AM »
The gender test "takes several weeks," and is "extremely complex"?  Ummm....how about you ask her gynecologist? 

Obviously there is something odd about the naughty bits if they're off doing DNA tests and body scans.

Taking lots of AAS will likely make the clitoris grow quite a bit.

it's not a huge leap to think that individual might have beenborn with a questionable gender status.  seperate competitions are sexist.  if you're gonna have a seperate race for people geneticaly disposed to less strength why not one for people with shorter legs?  sp women wouldn't win many races, niether do short legged people people.

Okay, step away from the PC Compendium. "Separate commpetitions are sexist"... har har har.

No he's right, if you want equality between men and women they should compete with their abilities against one another. Technically the woman in the post is the natural result of such competition, a woman with all of the body characteristics that makes her a star runner. It probably would be better to have a class system based on physical characteristics, similar to boxing/wrestling. However even in boxing they have men and women split. The best women often defeat the majority of men, so having a sex based class artificially puts them behind.

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General / Re: My Standup comedy debut.
« on: August 21, 2009, 12:15:18 AM »
Practice segwaying from random joke to random joke maybe? I assume you think of jokes through out the day, write down, practice the delivery. Well you just need more material, and better segways.

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General / Re: 'When the wind blows' - harrowing animation
« on: August 18, 2009, 11:27:44 PM »
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023790698427111488

A classic movie called threads.

So far as I watch I think section 6 demonstrates why people like war so much. It was the same with world war 1. Everyone thought it would be over by Christmas, there would be dashing charges on horseback into waiting cannons, and that all in all if you survived people would respect you for it.

Perhaps instead whenever someone claims to have fought in WWII, Korea, or especially Vietnam, we should instead say, "You reap what you sow, why didn't you go against it!" Or Better, "You know what a hero is right? Someone who gets people killed."


The one thing I thought was odd was that the pamphlets suggested such a stupid construction over advising people to take cover in a basement or cellar if they had one.   But I suppose the point was simply to avoid panic prior to any bombing.   It was also interesting to see how the couple romanticized war as a fond memory.   They didn't have a real idea of how utterly destructive and virtually unsurvivable a blast would be in certain areas.   Probably another government construct to keep people at home and avoid a panic rush away from any targeted areas. 

I have heard that the current nuclear weapons of the world could destroy the earth several times over.  But that would assume all were released.   I wonder though who has any nuclear arms targeting countries in the southern hemisphere.   Would Argentina or New Zeland for example be safe from direct bombing.  But end up dying anyway due to fall out or changes in the climate if a large enough exchange went on in the northern hemisphere?

Yes I interpret the entire point of the movie, in addition to showing the 'bright' side of war that brings people to war, was to show people what the shelters actually were. They were make shift mausoleums. Everyone was to build a box that would protect their bodies from the blast, if they survived that was good, if they got sick then they were to stay in the 'shelter' for two weeks, die, and be packaged in next to their ID and Birth certificate (Gravemarker). The paper sacks was the device the author used to show this, the couple packaged themselves.

From what I have heard nuclear winter would set in. There would be so much dust kicked into the air that the sunlight would be reduced significantly. All plant life would stay in seed or winter dormant form for about 4 years. The other effect of this dust is that it would be radioactive. Radioactive dust would kill animals that had high metabolisms quickly. Mammals, birds, possibly every living creature.

What I would be interested in knowing is if both sides knew this. The idea of blowing up a single bomb is one thing when you can leave the area, it's quite another to vaporize a land mass the size of Russia or the United States. Even if only one side launched an attack the 'winners' would stave to death. If both realized this, then the entire cold war was nothing but saber rattling of the deadliest variety. Unless they were entertaining Dr. Strangelove at their meetings, they would realize that launching nukes would be a redundant counter-strike. Hence, Mutually Assured Destruction.

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General / Re: Black Panthers
« on: August 18, 2009, 01:09:02 PM »
“We’re the Black Panthers.
We’re black people with guns.
What about it?”




I wish I had some better pics, but this is all I could find. 

Those are totally not the guns I would bring to a protest. Must be a black thing.

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General / Re: Selling an exotic, potentially lethal, scorpion...
« on: August 13, 2009, 08:36:08 AM »
Yeah I don't think it's a good idea. What are you keeping it in? A jar on your desk?

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General / Re: Smelly Cat
« on: August 12, 2009, 11:50:49 AM »
So you don't love your Girlfriend? Is that why you want her to suffer?

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General / Re: December 21, 2012
« on: August 12, 2009, 11:43:46 AM »
That movie is $200 million worth of special effects masturbation.

I need to find a way to make money of the apocalypse-idiots, though.

Well you could start making a website now.

http://www.december212012.org/Survival_Supplies.htm

Oops too late.

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General / Re: Nominate for best original FTL BBS Avatar!
« on: August 10, 2009, 07:43:17 AM »
Yep those are good.
<there are a lot of good avatars.
<The community is very creative.
<<Yep real nice.

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General / Re: Timecube has the best insults.
« on: August 09, 2009, 10:06:16 AM »
 :lol: Indeed I mean if Einstein is educated four then we all must be educated one.

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