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General / Re: Bullshit conspiracy kooks

« on: September 17, 2009, 03:54:40 PM »

That's all good and well, but it does not by association magic all paranoid delutions true. Sometimes a spoon is just a spoon.

Equally just because some people point to a conspiracy and are wrong does not by association magic make all paranoid delutions that conspiracies don't exist true either.  Sometimes people lie for personal gain and perpetrate fraud. 

My point is: Look at the damn evidence! Vaccines do NOT cause autism! The science is real damn clear!  The twin towers were taken down with planes! FEMA has no intentions of putting you in a concentration camps! Water is not added fluoride to kill you! There are no damn chemtrails! There's no damn NWO! God damn, I'm tired of this crap, stop chasing these fucking ghosts, the whole liberty movement is ridiculed because of you fucktards!

Why cant you accept the truth?

What truth?

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General / Re: Vaccine Nation directors cut

« on: September 17, 2009, 01:42:21 PM »

Ok, tell me about interests. I became a father three months ago, and my son will be vaccinated. Now, what the fuck is there to gain for the evil Vampire NWO Big Pharma Bilderbergers from turning my Willum into an autist?

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General / Re: Bullshit conspiracy kooks

« on: September 17, 2009, 01:30:17 PM »

That's all good and well, but it does not by association magic all paranoid delutions true. Sometimes a spoon is just a spoon.

Equally just because some people point to a conspiracy and are wrong does not by association magic make all paranoid delutions that conspiracies don't exist true either.  Sometimes people lie for personal gain and perpetrate fraud. 

My point is: Look at the damn evidence! Vaccines do NOT cause autism! The science is real damn clear!  The twin towers were taken down with planes! FEMA has no intentions of putting you in a concentration camps! Water is not added fluoride to kill you! There are no damn chemtrails! There's no damn NWO! God damn, I'm tired of this crap, stop chasing these fucking ghosts, the whole liberty movement is ridiculed because of you fucktards!

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General / Re: Vaccine Nation directors cut

« on: September 17, 2009, 09:24:10 AM »

Why not rather link to one single fucking study with evidence of the insane claims of the paranoid anti-vaxxer schizophreniacs?

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General / Re: Bullshit conspiracy kooks

« on: September 17, 2009, 09:11:24 AM »

http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/07/02/28/the-9-most-shocking-conspiracy-theories-that-turned-out-to-be-true.htm
While intelligent cynicism certainly can be healthy, though, some of the greatest discoveries of all time were initially received (often with great vitriol) as blasphemous conspiracy theories -- think of the revelation that the earth was not the center of the universe, or that the world was not flat but actually round.

What follows are some of these most shocking modern conspiracy theories that were apparently right all along.

   1.      The Dreyfus Affair: In the late 1800s in France, Jewish artillery officer Alfred Dreyfus was wrongfully convicted of treason based on false government documents, and sentenced to life in prison. The French government did attempt to cover this up, but Dreyfus was eventually pardoned after the affair was made public (an act that is credited to writer Émile Zola).

   2.      The Mafia: This secret crime society was virtually unknown until the 1960s, when member Joe Valachi first revealed the society's secrets to law enforcement officials.

   3.      MK-ULTRA: In the 1950s to the 1970s, the CIA ran a mind-control project aimed at finding a "truth serum" to use on communist spies. Test subjects were given LSD and other drugs, often without consent, and some were tortured. At least one man, civilian biochemist Frank Olson, who was working for the government, died as a result of the experiments. The project was finally exposed after investigations by the Rockefeller Commission.

   4.      Operation Mockingbird: Also in the 1950s to '70s, the CIA paid a number of well-known domestic and foreign journalists (from big-name media outlets like Time, The Washington Post, The New York Times, CBS and others) to publish CIA propaganda. The CIA also reportedly funded at least one movie, the animated "Animal Farm," by George Orwell. The Church Committee finally exposed the activities in 1975.
 
  5.      Watergate: Republican officials spied on the Democratic National Headquarters from the Watergate Hotel in 1972. While conspiracy theories suggested underhanded dealings were taking place, it wasn't until 1974 that White House tape recordings linked President Nixon to the break-in and forced him to resign.

   6.      The Tuskegee Syphilis Study: The United States Public Health Service carried out this clinical study on 400 poor, African-American men with syphilis from 1932 to 1972. During the study the men were given false and sometimes dangerous treatments, and adequate treatment was intentionally withheld so the agency could learn more about the disease. While the study was initially supposed to last just six months, it continued for 40 years. Close to 200 of the men died from syphilis or related complications by the end of the study.

   7.      Operation Northwoods: In the early 1960s, American military leaders drafted plans to create public support for a war against Cuba, to oust Fidel Castro from power. The plans included committing acts of terrorism in U.S. cities, killing innocent people and U.S. soldiers, blowing up a U.S. ship, assassinating Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees, and hijacking planes. The plans were all approved by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but were reportedly rejected by the civilian leadership, then kept secret for nearly 40 years.

   8.      The Iran-Contra Affair: In 1985 and '86, the White House authorized government officials to secretly trade weapons with the Israeli government in exchange for the release of U.S. hostages in Iran. The plot was uncovered by Congress in 1987.

   9.      1990 Testimony of Nayirah: A 15-year-old girl named "Nayirah" testified before the U.S. Congress that she had seen Iraqi soldiers pulling Kuwaiti babies from incubators, causing them to die. The testimony helped gain major public support for the 1991 Gulf War, but -- despite protests that the dispute of this story was itself a conspiracy theory -- it was later discovered that the testimony was false. It was actually the creation of public relations firm Hill & Knowlton for the purpose of promoting the Gulf War.

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And even more recently the Madoff scandal. 

Madoff Whistleblower Went Unheeded for Years

Friday 19 December 2008
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by: The Associated Press
Mathematical analysis in 1999 showed Madoff's returns were unreal.

    Boston - His repeated warnings that Wall Street money manager Bernard Madoff was running a giant Ponzi scheme have cast Harry Markopolos as an unheeded prophet.

    But people who know or worked with Markopolos say it wasn't prescience that helped him foresee the collapse of Madoff's alleged $50 billion fraud. Instead, they say diligence and a strong moral sense drove his quixotic, nine-year quest to alert regulators about Madoff.

    "He followed through on everything he ever did. He never let up," said his mother, Georgia Markopolos, in an interview Thursday. "Some kids just let it go if it's too hard, but he wouldn't do that." 

There are more but the point is just because you think something is a bullshit conspiracy theory it may actually have merit.   No one seems capable of critically looking at anything as soon as someone screams loudly enough it is a bullshit conspiracy theory.    Conspiracy kooks is a term thrown around like racism it is intended to shut down any debate.  The current trend is to discredit the messenger.  Some conspiracy theories are wrong but to automatically assume all conspiracies are bull is equally wrong.

That's all good and well, but it does not by association magic all paranoid delutions true. Sometimes a spoon is just a spoon.

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General / Re: Statistical Confusion

« on: September 17, 2009, 06:05:28 AM »

Don't understimate one generation's eagerness to fuck up the next generation's economy. A few European governments have tried taking steps rectifying this situation by cutting down on future pensions and other welfare expenditures, but they have been unable due to the rage of their greedy populations. Actually, here in Norway, the current socialist coalition government tried to cut back on pension benefits promised to the members of the biggest union, but they backed down within a couple of weeks after threats of strike. And of course, it also helped that the union is the biggest contributor to the biggest party in the coalition......

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General / Bullshit conspiracy kooks

« on: September 17, 2009, 05:49:38 AM »

I'm starting to get really fed up with the crackpot conspiranoids calling in. I'm listening to the 15-09 show, and HALF the show is idiot paranoid schizophrenics calling in with their bullcrap ideas. These fuctards should seek out some help for their mental illness, not call talk shows!

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General / Re: Literal Video: Total Eclipse of the Heart

« on: July 07, 2009, 07:53:25 PM »

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General / Re: What torrent tracker should we use?

« on: July 07, 2009, 01:43:29 PM »

They plan to pull all pirate stuff from the site and only offer paid-content.

Omg, the evil fucking bastards! I pirate because there is no way for me to pay for the films and TV shows I like. Why you guys over there, with your Netflix and your Hulu and your whatnot would prefer to pirate, I have no idea. The moral thing to do is to pay for the entertainment you appreciate.

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The Show / Re: For Self-Ownership but opposed to Doctor Assisted Suicide

« on: July 04, 2009, 11:50:58 AM »

Well, my friend, then you're against self-ownership. You are then of the opinion that you should own everyone else. Plain and simple. Fuck you. If I want an assisted suicide, I want assistance from a doctor and not a fuckin' plumber.

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General / Re: German kid HIT BY METEOR and SURVIVES

« on: June 23, 2009, 04:38:13 AM »

Yeah, this lying little german bastard would be severely injured if this event transpired the way he claims. Anyone who can't see that is a total idiot.

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The Polling Pit / Re: When is rape funny?

« on: June 22, 2009, 05:15:06 PM »

I actually meant it when I told you to pull the stick out of your ass.

No shit.  I actually meant it when I said only idiots find Jimmy Carr funny.  Go figure.  Now go run and play.....

Poor, empty shell of a person! Is there anything except smelling your own farts you do find funny?

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General / Re: German kid HIT BY METEOR and SURVIVES

« on: June 22, 2009, 05:08:44 PM »

Bullshit story. Lying german kid.

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The Polling Pit / Re: When is rape funny?

« on: June 22, 2009, 04:57:38 PM »

The british stand-up comedian Jimmy Carr did a really funny rape joke on one of his DVDs.

Whats worse than finding a worm in your apple?
- Being raped!


Bwaaaahahahaha, I loooooled!

Thanks for a good example of a really bad rape joke.   Sorry, but I think in order to laugh at that a person must have an IQ of -10.

How is that bad? The whole point of the joke is that rape is not something you expect to hear as the punchline.

Really?  You don't say! 

Well, wow, it kinda looks like I actually did!

That combined with the comedian's "proper" english accent and the shock value of using rape in a joke makes it funny.

Unless one is used to Jimmy Carr, whose entire act is saying idiotic things in a "proper" English accent. 
Sorry, still stupid. 

I actually meant it when I told you to pull the stick out of your ass. Just grab it and pull. Unless someone else put it there without consent, of course. Geddit? Like anal stick rape. *lol himself to death*

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The Polling Pit / Re: When is rape funny?

« on: June 22, 2009, 12:25:07 PM »

The british stand-up comedian Jimmy Carr did a really funny rape joke on one of his DVDs.

Whats worse than finding a worm in your apple?
- Being raped!


Bwaaaahahahaha, I loooooled!

Thanks for a good example of a really bad rape joke.   Sorry, but I think in order to laugh at that a person must have an IQ of -10.

How is that bad? The whole point of the joke is that rape is not something you expect to hear as the punchline. That combined with the comedian's "proper" english accent and the shock value of using rape in a joke makes it funny. Unless one has a huge stick up ones ass.