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General / Re: Debunking crapitalism
« on: June 07, 2015, 04:52:58 PM »
The market isn't voluntary by it's very nature, either you have what is wanted to trade or trade doesn't occur.
You force me to get what you want for you while denying me what you have that I need.
If that is my 23rd pair of shoes, well, that is one thing, but if that is supper, or shelter from the rain, then that is another, different, thing.
Crapitalism isn't voluntary, if it was the shareholders/boss wouldn't be getting such a big cut of the pie.
After all it is the truck loader that is indispensable, not the shareholder.
You force me to get what you want for you while denying me what you have that I need.
If that is my 23rd pair of shoes, well, that is one thing, but if that is supper, or shelter from the rain, then that is another, different, thing.
Crapitalism isn't voluntary, if it was the shareholders/boss wouldn't be getting such a big cut of the pie.
After all it is the truck loader that is indispensable, not the shareholder.
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General / Debunking crapitalism
« on: June 04, 2015, 08:43:19 PM »
We have to have workers, we don't have to have dollars.
As long as the work done today to fill the shelves is done tomorrow the shelves will be full.
The worker doesn't care if the corporation gets paid or not, it is not pertinent to his job.
The accounting department could fall in a lake and the workers would still fill the shelves.
I propose that the workers unite, toss off the monkey masters, and just order what they need from the net in return for continuing to work.
The division of labor efficiencies require that some people make shoes and other people make tomatoes and yet other people drive the trucks to the warehouses.
As long as we have evidence that everybody(nearly) is contributing then life will go on as normal.
That evidence will be neighbors that get up and go to work and full shelves at the warehouse and deliveries of the goods ordered from the net.
Notice that nowhere did I mention banksters and shareholders.
If the workers could be led to this idea we can short circuit the whole shebang that is crapitalism.
As long as the work done today to fill the shelves is done tomorrow the shelves will be full.
The worker doesn't care if the corporation gets paid or not, it is not pertinent to his job.
The accounting department could fall in a lake and the workers would still fill the shelves.
I propose that the workers unite, toss off the monkey masters, and just order what they need from the net in return for continuing to work.
The division of labor efficiencies require that some people make shoes and other people make tomatoes and yet other people drive the trucks to the warehouses.
As long as we have evidence that everybody(nearly) is contributing then life will go on as normal.
That evidence will be neighbors that get up and go to work and full shelves at the warehouse and deliveries of the goods ordered from the net.
Notice that nowhere did I mention banksters and shareholders.
If the workers could be led to this idea we can short circuit the whole shebang that is crapitalism.
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General / Re: Cops are satan,...
« on: February 09, 2015, 05:43:55 PM »
Ok, I'm with you, painting with too broad a brush can mischaracterize folks.
But the premise is sound, if one uses violence to attain their goals they are jerks and do satan's work.
By and large, any good cop that doesn't speak up about his bad cop knowledge is a bad cop, too.
But the premise is sound, if one uses violence to attain their goals they are jerks and do satan's work.
By and large, any good cop that doesn't speak up about his bad cop knowledge is a bad cop, too.
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General / Re: An alternative to crapitalism.
« on: February 09, 2015, 04:31:50 PM »
I'm not bringing back a store, there will be no money to pay one with.
The premise is that you will order from the internet or go to the warehouse and get what you need.
In return you will agree to work in a needed area of production for the minimum number of hours required to maintain the standard of living.
The premise is that you will order from the internet or go to the warehouse and get what you need.
In return you will agree to work in a needed area of production for the minimum number of hours required to maintain the standard of living.
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General / Re: Why does God allow EVIL ?
« on: February 09, 2015, 04:17:18 PM »>>> Wouldn't it be team satan causing evil in the world?Yes, the person is freely choosing to serve satan's ends, ie, creating negativity in the world.
>> Only if you don't believe that you(regardless of team satan) have free will to choose good or evil.
> Why would free will alter anything?
Because having free will means it is the person's choice, not satan making the choice.
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And imperfect is a result of choice by man.As is the choice to do evil.
It is our obligation to do what God had said and no to do if God said no, no compromise!!!How did you come to the conclusion of what god has said?
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General / Re: Cops are satan,...
« on: February 08, 2015, 03:26:18 PM »Oh, yes, that is correct.The whole premise is that being forced, and not freely choosing, is satanic.Correct, and I disagree with that premise because satan does not force you.
He coaxes, lures, entices, yes. But that is not force. A person still freely chooses to succumb to the enticements.
If you choose to create negativity in the world, that is you freely choosing to bat for team satan.
Satan doesn't force any body to create negativity, it is a free choice to do so.
But, if you choose to force somebody to do something, like go to church, then you are freely choosing to violate the non-aggression principle, and to act satanically.
If the cops put you in jail for smoking pot, or shooting coke, they too have freely chosen to violate the non-aggression principle and act satanically.
However, if cops stop you from raping people then they are not violating the non-aggression principle and their use of force is positive in nature and they bat for team god.
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General / Re: Why does God allow EVIL ?
« on: February 08, 2015, 02:45:52 PM »1) you believe in team satanWe don't have to use the term satan, we can just as easily substitute the word negative, they are equal, imo.
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2) you don't believe that you(regardless of team satan) have free will to choose good or evil.Why would free will alter anything? People switch hit all the time, sometimes they create positivity, and sometimes negativity.
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Personally, I believe each has free will to choose good or evil.I agree, it is very important to the reason we were put here.
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If each does have free will to choose good or evilThey are, at least, batting for team satan.
do all of those who choose evil become part of team satan ? :-0)
How could it be any other way?
Satan is a spiritual being, not flesh and blood, he needs flesh and blood to work his plan.
When one chooses to create negativity in the world they are doing the work of satan.
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General / Re: Cops are satan,...
« on: February 08, 2015, 02:31:59 PM »Quote from: RV
When someone uses defensive force against you when you are using offensive force (aggression) that is not even close to being like the alleged satan.Yes, responding to a violation of the non-aggression principle is not a negative act.
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That is, it presumes there must be something forcing you rather than you choosing of your own will.Choosing of your own free will is not being forced.
The whole premise is that being forced, and not freely choosing, is satanic.
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General / Re: Why does God allow EVIL ?
« on: February 07, 2015, 05:15:45 PM »
Wouldn't it be team satan causing evil in the world?
I think what we have here is a false flag attack, the criminals are dressing up as Indians to get the Indians blamed for the criminal acts.
I think what we have here is a false flag attack, the criminals are dressing up as Indians to get the Indians blamed for the criminal acts.
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General / Cops are satan,...
« on: February 07, 2015, 05:12:02 PM »
As is anybody that forces you to do anything you don't want to do.
The logic is as follows,.....
You've been to church?
Did someone force you to go to church?
Ok, but it wasn't god, right?
When you got to church did you sing?
Did you put money in the plate?
Nobody forced you to do those things did they?
So, if we have established that god doesn't force anybody to do anything, then the only alternative left to force people to do things is satan.
If we assume satan to be a spiritual creature and not flesh and blood, then we can put the flesh and blood people forcing you to do things you don't want to do into the team satan category.
Anybody forcing you to do something you don't want to do are batting for team satan.
Cops are team satan.
The logic is as follows,.....
You've been to church?
Did someone force you to go to church?
Ok, but it wasn't god, right?
When you got to church did you sing?
Did you put money in the plate?
Nobody forced you to do those things did they?
So, if we have established that god doesn't force anybody to do anything, then the only alternative left to force people to do things is satan.
If we assume satan to be a spiritual creature and not flesh and blood, then we can put the flesh and blood people forcing you to do things you don't want to do into the team satan category.
Anybody forcing you to do something you don't want to do are batting for team satan.
Cops are team satan.
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General / World Peace in 20 Words or Less.
« on: February 07, 2015, 05:06:32 PM »
Here it is in a nutshell,....
It is wrong to force a person to do anything that that person does not want to do.
Conflict is not possible when coercion is taken off the table.
What do you consider it ok to force people to do?
(Violations of the non-aggression principle can be dealt with by the victims and anybody that cares to assist them.)
It is wrong to force a person to do anything that that person does not want to do.
Conflict is not possible when coercion is taken off the table.
What do you consider it ok to force people to do?
(Violations of the non-aggression principle can be dealt with by the victims and anybody that cares to assist them.)
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General / An alternative to crapitalism.
« on: February 07, 2015, 05:03:43 PM »
If the workers that filled the shelves today continue to work tomorrow the shelves will continue to be full.
The driller continues to drill, the miner continues to mine, the refiners continue to refine, the truckers continue to truck, the stockers continue to stock and the managers continue to manage, all in the absence of the accounting department who would need to find more productive work.
Ok, you with me, so far?
Now, let's pay these workers in free passes to the store instead of dollars.
Will that lead to short term shortages? Yes.
Will those shortages be worked out in time by increasing output? Yes.
The proposal is that by eliminating money as a means of accounting for goods we can all access the goods without limiting ourselves to what the lowest wages and highest prices of crapitalism limits us to.
Why should the people doing the least work get the biggest rewards?
Why would we continue to play along with the game that makes us slaves to the international bankster families when we can just stop paying the cashier on the way out of the store?
As long as the consumption is recorded and reorders placed the shelves will continue to be full.
As long as we continue to make the products the products will be there whether we use dollars to limit our consumption to what those on top want us to have or if we just share with each other like we were family.
Can you give a reason that if the workers continue to work the shelves won't be full?
The driller continues to drill, the miner continues to mine, the refiners continue to refine, the truckers continue to truck, the stockers continue to stock and the managers continue to manage, all in the absence of the accounting department who would need to find more productive work.
Ok, you with me, so far?
Now, let's pay these workers in free passes to the store instead of dollars.
Will that lead to short term shortages? Yes.
Will those shortages be worked out in time by increasing output? Yes.
The proposal is that by eliminating money as a means of accounting for goods we can all access the goods without limiting ourselves to what the lowest wages and highest prices of crapitalism limits us to.
Why should the people doing the least work get the biggest rewards?
Why would we continue to play along with the game that makes us slaves to the international bankster families when we can just stop paying the cashier on the way out of the store?
As long as the consumption is recorded and reorders placed the shelves will continue to be full.
As long as we continue to make the products the products will be there whether we use dollars to limit our consumption to what those on top want us to have or if we just share with each other like we were family.
Can you give a reason that if the workers continue to work the shelves won't be full?
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