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General / Re: Clinging to outdated and inefficient things.. What's the word?

« on: August 22, 2012, 02:27:06 AM »

obsolescence?

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General / Re: Clinging to outdated and inefficient things.. What's the word?

« on: August 21, 2012, 10:48:47 AM »

So the term you're looking for refers to the people who cling to the outdated thing and not the outdated thing itself, is that correct?

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General / Re: Fuuuuuuuuck!

« on: August 09, 2012, 02:01:04 AM »

So I had this exchange with a friend of mine who's a British Socialist.

On the heels of my videos, comes this story.

France plans to raise the taxes on the rich to 75%

Used to be over 80% in this country I believe. And those French millionaires are bluffing- either they're public spirited good citizens, in which case they'll grumble and pay up, or they're not, in which case any taxation is too much and they'll already have hidden their wealth away overseas. It's like those celebrities who say they'll emigrate if X is elected to office- they seldom do, even when you might want them to.

I don't understand, you think it's a good thing that someone has 75% of their wealth stolen from them?

They'll leave, it happens here in the US all the time. States like Maryland and New York have seen an exodus of millionaires because of punitive tax measures. If you're losing 75% of your wealth, there is no incentive to work for it anymore. So, either they'll leave or just close up shop and more people will be out of work.

Just because they haven't left yet, doesn't mean they wont in the future.   

It is maddening.

Ha! It sounds a lot like the arguments I have with one of my friends. This friend is usually very logical and claims to despise authoritarian bull shit and hates the TSA. Unfortunately he's also a raging liberal. Anyway, I tried using the 'taxation is akin to slavery' argument with him and he delved into arguments from emotion. He tried to claim that I didn't care enough about 'real slaves' (chattel slaves) and how it's demeaning to call taxes slavery. After I explained the idea of degrees of slavery ie, multiple people owning a percentage of you, his response was 'Well, I don't know anyone who feels enslaved.' I just let it go at the time but wished I'd said, 'I don't know anyone who feels like they're standing on a giant ball hurtling through space at 600,000 miles per hour but that doesn't make it's not so.'

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General / Re: Derrick J's Victimless Crime Spree?

« on: July 31, 2012, 02:19:33 AM »

It's up!

Derrick J's Victimless Crime Spree

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General / Re: US Nuclear Arsenal

« on: July 31, 2012, 02:16:13 AM »

They would probably be sold off in auction to pay down the dept.

If there's no more government then there is no more obligation to pay any debt is there? Certainly no debt I feel obligated to pay, anyway. I do like your idea of auctioning the weapons/material though. The last act of the government should be to cut a check to every person whose money they stole with the proceeds of that auction.

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General / Re: Fuuuuuuuuck!

« on: July 31, 2012, 01:26:09 AM »

Thanks for the help. I think I'm going to go with CaptainObvious' suggestion and just not argue with them. Even though I feel that I came to Voluntaryism through critical thinking, logic and reason, whenever I argue these points I get frustrated and emotional. Not a good way to be a messenger for liberty.

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General / Re: "This is Anarchast"

« on: July 31, 2012, 01:19:47 AM »

Cool, thanks for the link. Looking forward to watching more Anarchast podcasts. Not a huge fan of the title of their show but hey, it's their show.

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General / Re: Fuuuuuuuuck!

« on: July 28, 2012, 03:35:50 AM »

Ha ha ha! You're probably right. It's just so frustrating because I used to think like they do and feel that if they'd just use logic and reason, they'd come to the same conclusions that I, and many others here have.

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General / Fuuuuuuuuck!

« on: July 28, 2012, 02:15:47 AM »

It's so absolutely frustrating to argue with my statist friends. Recently I made a post here about 'bridging the gap' between the Volunyaryist position and the Statist position. I got some very good feedback and tried approaching my friends with the NAP. The argument I tried to use is 'it's never right to use force or the threat of force against anyone who hasn't used force or the threat of force against you.' That is, i believe, a very sound argument to use with people who i generally believe  use logic and reason to come to conclusions in all other parts of their lives. They try to bog it down with the argument that while they agree that force is wrong in this situation, the NAP is too black and white. They try to use examples of instances where the threat of force is vague and that my idea of the threat of force is subjective. I don't agree with them and believe that the 'threat of force' is completely objective but can't seem to convey this point to them. Any suggestions?

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The Show / Re: I liked the Edginton Post tacked on the end of the podcast

« on: July 27, 2012, 12:18:37 PM »

I miss them being tacked on the end of the podcast as well. I really enjoyed listening to the good ones and the interviews that felt like ads (the one with the representative from some gun manufacturer who was trying to sell a million guns stands out as this type) I would just turn off.

Signed
Rarely Listens To Edgington Post Anymore in California

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Episodes & Show Prep / Re: 2012-07-23

« on: July 26, 2012, 02:59:24 AM »

Got a link to the whimsical bush? That one's for the online weapons dealer.

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General / Re: You are the 1%

« on: July 26, 2012, 02:51:03 AM »

Battlestar Galactica - Final Jump

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General / Re: You are the 1%

« on: July 26, 2012, 02:18:07 AM »

Wow, that was depressing. I did, however, enjoy the bit about the industrial revolution. Who could have seen that coming? It makes one wonder what other development could occur that will save humanity from our urge to procreate. Maybe FTL will save us. (Faster Than Light as opposed to Free Talk Live). Someone could create a FTL drive capable of propelling giant ships filled with people so they can over populate planets outside our solar system. Who knows?

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General / US Nuclear Arsenal

« on: July 25, 2012, 01:30:52 AM »

If all the people in the US that call themselves 'the government' all of a sudden said 'ok, you Voluntaryists are right, we were wrong, no more state from this day forward." What would become of the US nuclear arsenal? Who would take control of it and (god forbid) decide when or if it needed to be used?
Also, just to be clear I'm not making a case for the state. I get the whole 'just because you can't imagine how the cotton will be picked' argument. Just wondering if anyone has any creative ideas regarding this?

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General / Re: Derrick J's Victimless Crime Spree?

« on: July 24, 2012, 01:44:17 AM »

Cool! Looks like it's being released next week. Check out the new trailer...

Derrick J's Victimless Crime Spree Trailer #2

Are there any other liberty oriented documentaries worth checking out? Saw an ad for a film called 'Libertopia' that looked like it might be promising. Anyone see that?