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General / Re: modified version of Labor Theory of Value...
« on: February 21, 2006, 11:41:38 PM »
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What is "perfect competition?"

an infinite high quality supply of goods to choose from inwhich all the information about the good is known for an infinite number of buyers...

Good luck with that. I'll stick with reality.

theoretically the costs would equal the value...

Theoretically, my foot can fit up your ass if I shove it hard enough.

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General / Re: modified version of Labor Theory of Value...
« on: February 21, 2006, 11:12:13 PM »
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What is "perfect competition?"

an infinite high quality supply of goods to choose from inwhich all the information about the good is known for an infinite number of buyers...

Good luck with that. I'll stick with reality.

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General / Re: modified version of Labor Theory of Value...
« on: February 21, 2006, 10:58:25 PM »
You need to define your terms. What is "perfect competition?" What is "imperfect competition?" Is there a "neutral competition?" What is "competition?" What is "perfect?"

Dictionary.com is a good start, so here we go:

COMPETITION
   1. The act of competing, as for profit or a prize; rivalry.
   2. A test of skill or ability; a contest: a skating competition.
   3. Rivalry between two or more businesses striving for the same customer or market.
   4. A competitor: The competition has cornered the market.
   5. Ecology. The simultaneous demand by two or more organisms for limited environmental resources, such as nutrients, living space, or light.

PERFECT
   1. Lacking nothing essential to the whole; complete of its nature or kind.
   2. Being without defect or blemish: a perfect specimen.
   3. Thoroughly skilled or talented in a certain field or area; proficient.
   4. Completely suited for a particular purpose or situation: She was the perfect actress for the part.
   5.
         a. Completely corresponding to a description, standard, or type: a perfect circle; a perfect gentleman.
         b. Accurately reproducing an original: a perfect copy of the painting.
   6. Complete; thorough; utter: a perfect fool.
   7. Pure; undiluted; unmixed: perfect red.
   8. Excellent and delightful in all respects: a perfect day.
   9. Botany. Having both stamens and pistils in the same flower; monoclinous.
  10. Grammar. Of, relating to, or constituting a verb form expressing action completed prior to a fixed point of reference in time.
  11. Music. Designating the three basic intervals of the octave, fourth, and fifth.


How are these two words compatible? One is an act of testing skill, an act of improvement; the other is indifference and irrelevence.

Perfect competition? An unmixed rivalry? An excellent contest? Perfectly suited for competing?

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General / Re: modified version of Labor Theory of Value...
« on: February 21, 2006, 03:27:05 AM »
What if I don't like marigolds? Do I have to pay for the labor, anyways? :(

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General / Re: modified version of Labor Theory of Value...
« on: February 20, 2006, 10:36:07 PM »
And slaves still produce for the master out of fear of the whip.

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General / Re: modified version of Labor Theory of Value...
« on: February 20, 2006, 10:14:50 PM »
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According to Cost-of-Production theories, first the book printer is priced, and then the book's price comes from the cost of the book printer. Clearly this is mistaken: the book is valued originally, and then the price of the book printer is determined by the price of the book.

In other words, the Labor Theory of Value is completely and totally erroneous.

hence the title of the thread is modified...

removing all state privileges means competition via market forces will drive the price down to the labor required to create it

What about the profit motive to motivate people to produce and compete?

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General / Re: Online Gambling ban
« on: February 20, 2006, 08:16:49 PM »
I was training to enter into online professional poker tournaments. This would screw me. :(

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General / Re: why aren't you an anarchist?
« on: February 20, 2006, 08:14:27 PM »
Joy, you just made my day.  :D

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General / Re: modified version of Labor Theory of Value...
« on: February 19, 2006, 03:11:01 AM »
Does this theory explain what happenes when nobody wants to buy what you're selling?

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General / Re: why aren't you an anarchist?
« on: February 18, 2006, 10:11:06 PM »
I believe that there exist people in this world that would try to deprive me of my liberty, if given the opportunity.

They call those people 'the government'.

I prefer to call it the misapplication of government.

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General / Re: How to respond to this
« on: February 18, 2006, 09:14:19 PM »
You argue for bullshit. End of story.

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General / Re: How to respond to this
« on: February 18, 2006, 08:54:45 PM »
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You have no choice to pay a tax for a service you may or may not have chosen

you mean kinda like paying economic rent for simply have a place to exist?

You are a fucking moron communist. Piss off. :)

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General / Re: How to respond to this
« on: February 17, 2006, 10:17:52 PM »
I find it amusing that statists try to make people believe government 'fees' are not taxes.

Taxes denote involuntary payment. You have no choice to pay a tax for a service you may or may not have chosen.
Fees denotes voluntary payment. You have a choice to purchase a service for a fee.

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General / Re: Activism: how far would you go?
« on: February 17, 2006, 01:38:54 AM »
I will put a killer satellite into orbit, and melt the polar ice cap with a laser beam, if my ransom demand is not met.

One Million Dollars.

But ice actually takes up more volume than water, so melting the ice cap wouldn't cause flooding.

They're on land and not already in the water...so it probably would.

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General / Re: How to respond to this
« on: February 15, 2006, 01:37:54 AM »
Well...taxes don't necessarily "create" black markets. And those markets wouldn't be black, anyways. Think about it. Black markets only come about when something is made illegal; demand for that product usually shoots through the roof, a market booms -- but it's not a protected free market, thus "black."

What products are being made illegal? What markets are losing their protected free market status?

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