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The Polling Pit / Re: Preferences
« on: January 19, 2013, 09:28:53 AM »
Suppose you are approached by a mysterious figure who offers you a chance for greatness...

Likely a CIA agent (or DHS, TSA, FBI, DEA, etc.). Tread carefully.

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I don't visit the BBS very often but I've been loyal to FTL for a long time. Besides a handful of items I have nothing but respect and appreciation.

Posting in this BBS is like a shark attack, and I can definitely be short-fused. Whatever. Apologies for being short, but I stand by what I said nonetheless. A few of you guys need to chill too. Don't care what you say about it.

I'm prob out of here for the next however many months anyway or til whenever the next time "the boys" piss me off enough to want to say something. But hopefully, peace all.

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Yes, you are right John. When I started listening to FTL sometime in 2007 they were one of the only liberty stores in town. However, times have changed quite a bit since then, and there's a huge variety of non-aggression and free-market (voluntaryism) available to me now. If the services I require are not being met, (and I'm being treated rudely on top of it), I now have the freedom to take my business elsewhere. Consider it done.

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I think "global troll" would be a better term John. If it's your job to run ppl out of the bbs then you're due a promotion.

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The links in the original post are legitimate and disturbing reads. The people who were/are affected by what's described in them are definitely concerned with their outcomes. I believe it's only appropriate that others should be informed about them as well.

Until about 2 years ago, I was guilty of laughing off these stories and the kooks who delivered them, but the evidence has become undeniable. If there's one thing I do not like, it's being wrong, but I especially don't like being wrong when I've been pompous about it.

Maybe a more productive approach to discussions of this nature would be to discontinue the use of such terms as "conspiracy theor[y,ist]" and [chem,con]trail, etc., altogether, and simply address each story or caller on an individual basis. Collective terms always sacrifice the individuals inside them, while they breed prejudice among outsiders.

Anyway, thanks for reading this post on the show. Thanks for affirming the legitimacy of many of these stories. I hope, especially for the benefit of those who are attempting to prove and recoup their losses, that you'll continue to share such stories with the listeners.

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Since you're a global moderator, John, you must be qualified to speak and/or act for "the boys."  Perhaps you can share with us the algorithms that determine "demonstrably real evils that deserve more attention," as opposed to other nebulous information that warrants a chiding, scolding, belittling, etc? Is there rabbit-hole depth-o-meter that unwitting conspiracy theorists can check before calling in?

Because it's obvious the links I posted didn't warrant a cursory glance from the staff, let alone the boys, because why? a) they are not 'demonstrable' enough (which you wouldn't know by not reading them) or b) you simply glanced the depth-o-meter, cross referenced the appropriate response and promptly regurgitated it. (Your time must be as valuable as the boys' is).

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The Show / Why do you continue to pursue the "conpiracy theory" vendetta?
« on: November 01, 2012, 08:34:40 AM »
https://www.nytimes.com/1997/05/15/us/secret-army-chemical-tests-did-not-harm-health-report-says.html
http://www.mccaskill.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=1724
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/10/03/army-secret-chemical-testing-in-st-louis-neighborhoods-during-cold-war-raising/print\
http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2002/apr/21/uk.medicalscience

Listening to the FTL AMP pod this morning (Oct 31st show), Nemi begins with a story about the Feds investigating and charging Meridan, MS with a school to prison story. No one questions Nemi's beliefs. No one attacks her personally or the story's credibility.

Then the first caller, Matt from Ohio (if I remember correctly) suggests that chemtrailing could be done easily if the agents were slipped into gasoline. The reponse? Ian personally attacks Matt by asking (paraphrasing) "Why even bother to call in about something you don't believe?" and says to the audience (again, paraphrasing) "At least call about something you believe." To Mark's credit, he slips in a reaffirmation FTL's motto of calling in about anything. However, the damage is done by now. The caller's credibility is in question because he dares to mention chemtrails.

I have to question that unreasonable and condescending reaction. It causes me to doubt the show's integrity and intentions. I've linked 4 source stories here, two quite recent, one of which is from Senator McCaskill's Missouri Senate office.  All reveal unquestionable evidence of chemtrailing. Four links. Proof positive. No argument. In fact, I dare anyone to deny them.

So, if there's a litany of creepy government behaviour (not to mention it being FTL's primary source of bread and butter) why is the response is always the same?  Always, the caller is a kook and there's no proof, etc etc. Hmm.

At this point, chemtrails become secondary to FTL's (Ian's) behaviour. "The Emporer (Ian) has no clothes" seems most fitting, because for all that he and FTL claim to be--rational and fair, etc., this is a glaring prejudice. An apparent vendetta.

Or is it something else? What then? It stirs a great deal of doubt.

What is it Ian? FTL? Read those 4 stories and answer these questions:

1. Are the stories legitimate?
2. Do they describe chemtrailing?

If you answered these with "yes" then:

3. Why do you continue to pursue the "conspiracy theory" vendetta?

If you answered the first 2 questions with "no" then you're full of it and you're dismissed.

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Edit: Emperor is the correct spelling, of course.

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General / Re: And to Ian
« on: March 26, 2012, 06:37:19 PM »
I call bullshit.  You're pretending there's justice in the justice system, which you would have to do to believe their numbers correlate to the numbers of actual crimes.

I would call you in denial. Everyone who's lived in a major city knows "that" part of town, whether it's white, black, somewhere in between or whatever.  If I were to take you to some places I know and push you out of my car after dark (without a gun) you'd squeal like a pig, just like any being with any common sense would.

BTW, no one's debating the causes. Lack of freemarket opportunity, good education, IRRATIONAL prejudice and bigotry, and many others have contributed to much of the environment and culture that these places are. The sad facts remain though, and again, if you wish to deny them then that's your business.

I would venture that FTL has lost listeners due to this disconnect. It's their business. I listen anyway. It's like a restaurant where I know what to order and what not. I'll pass on the Kenneth frequency special, but I'd love to have a red-faced Mark smothered in statist loyalty, thanks.

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General / Re: And to Ian
« on: March 26, 2012, 09:43:28 AM »
I've been listening to the show since '07-ish now, and for all these years, the way that the FTL guests, Mark, and Ian in particular, have handled the racial issue is one that is most disappointing. Ian, for example , who is normally an exceptionally principled, fact based, and logically consistent beacon, when discussing such issues will almost instantly turn to mush, refuse to listen to or present factual evidence, and begin attacking the caller's credibility. There's literally a change in his mood, voice, and all 'round demeanor.

I'm offended by racism, prejudice and bigotry, but there *IS* a fine line where fact and bias meet, and I'm equally offended by a person's subconscious or willful ignorance of it.

Here's a familiar example: There are particular neighborhoods in America that have been documented with a far greater than average incidence of violent crimes. Those crimes have also been documented to be predominately committed by the inhabitants of the same neighborhoods, and the inhabitants have been documented to be predominately of one particular race, nationality or religious group, etc. These particular facts are not bigoted smear campaigns, they are simply facts.

It does not make a person prejudiced or bigoted to state these facts, and it is slanderous to portray that person as such, but that is the general course of attention that callers to the show are given. It is ugly and FTL, of all people, should understand this.

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