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General / Re: Why I am not a Voluntaryist.
« on: July 23, 2010, 05:35:09 PM »
interesting discussion has evolved here... I also noticed that many anarchists (in mises.org, for example) who believe in NAP are also moral relativists or  nihilists. I don't know which is worse, but they both are extreme cases which then refutes the whole NAP idea. Without objective (or rational, or natural, whatever you call it) morality NAP is worthless, IMO.

General / Re: Two years in prison
« on: July 22, 2010, 05:43:40 AM »
what about.... no prison at all?

To all you who are proposing an "island-prison" idea I can only say - you are crazy deluded violent hypocrite people. Violence only breeds violence. You can't change a person by sending him in a place where he will be beaten, raped and maybe killed.

It's ironic, that you see a violent nature of state and then propose SAME violent solution for other social problems.

So prison is not even an option. Who will pay for it? You? Your children? Hahaha funny.

General / Re: Why I am not a Voluntaryist.
« on: July 21, 2010, 05:05:59 PM »
I only disagree (so far) with OP about the family. My views are quite controversial. Family doesn't have to be involuntary too, at least, not all time. If you can support yourself, I think one can be free to leave his family. No problem.

I am not quite sure where OP stands on gay families issue, but in my opinion, their families are not a problem too and can raise healthy child just like heterosexual family can raise a healthy child (which later can become gay, haha, but srsly).

What I mean by this is that to me a FAMILY is not a women and a man. To me family is at least one person raising a child. it can be group of persons, but it doesn't matter their sexual orientation or skin color.

that's my few bucks on this topic.

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