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Porcupine_in_MA

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2008, 08:25:25 PM »

The JW's knocked on the door this morning handing out some kind of Jesus fest flyer. Fuckers.

Are you going?
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ReverendRyan

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2008, 08:44:14 PM »

What, nobody likes my flag version?
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AntonLee

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2008, 08:58:12 PM »

I don't like the blue with gold and black. . . but it's your flag. . .

I always preferred hands shaking. . . not to show cooperation really, but to show the 'deal'. . . a transaction.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. . . in my opinion the confederate flag is something that always catches my eye for it's graphic design.  I tend to prefer "jack" type ensigns like the Union Jack and the Jamaican flag.  I desire symmetry.  I always always loved the confederate jack (not particularly the stars and bars as its predecessor).

Perhaps a confederate flag incorporating the black and gold, with a symbol in the middle. . . god I wish I still had my photoshop CD so I could reinstall it.

confederate jack


confederate flag



an iraqi version hehe
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Alex Libman

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2008, 12:59:29 AM »

What, nobody likes my flag version?

Me like.  Just curious, did you pick blue just for aesthetic reasons, or does it symbolize something?


I always preferred hands shaking. . . not to show cooperation really, but to show the 'deal'. . . a transaction.

A flag should be a personal thing and symbolism is subjective, but to give you my opinion - I don't like that symbol, and not just because I've recently seen it on sp-usa.org and other socialist sites.  Handshaking started out as something people who don't trust each-other did to confirm the other isn't hiding a dagger (a weak handshake could prompt the other person to decide it would be pretty easy to kill you), and as a greeting among members of a secret society.  It could help spread diseases, or be awkward when dealing with people from other cultures.  It is far from universal, and is likely to decline in popularity along with the Western World's fraction of the global wealth, because it just isn't very practical compared to a nod or a Japanese-style bow.
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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2008, 12:11:08 PM »

Please don't get me wrong. I like reading Alex's posts and I wouldn't stop him, even if there was a way for me to do so, but, apparently, he would stop me from expressing my disgust with the whole idea of an anarchist flag, if he could do so.
emphasis mine.

An anarchist flag should be that, one without a centrally defined theme.  My old shorts on my flagpole is just as good as your scooby-doo bedsheets.

That said, Mark, I think you equate Anarchy with Bedlam. and most of the people here consider a state of anarchy as one where there is no state Government, but where there is still self government (please notice the difference in capitalisation of government).  If, as you say, you are very concerned about the semantics, then you must concede that there is a difference between anarchy and chaos.  Look at the definition or the etymology of the word: An-archy, An-without/ archy-rulers. Some people will naturally assume that an anarchist means a state of lawlessness after a position of power is vacated, however I speak only for myself here that I mean no entity deriving it's power from an unsanctioned mandate.
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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2008, 01:09:37 PM »

I was thinking about the stars and bars a while back, and I concluded that if ever I were to rebel, I think that would be a very considerable flag to use.  Because (before I get called a racist) it really is a secessionist flag before a white power flag.  IDK.
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AntonLee

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2008, 01:56:57 PM »

It's shameful that certain hate groups can take symbols and re-create them so that the masses can see such a thing and automatically assume the person is a racist.

Not just the confederate flag, a flag that was a symbol for a new nation that wanted it's own rights separate from the United States.  I do not agree with slavery, quite obviously, but I was merely pointing out that the graphic design of the Confederate jack is appealing to me.

The other example that sticks out in my mind is the swatstika. . . a symbol of old that was used to represent the sun.  Taken over and used to the point that the symbol isn't even allowed in Germany anymore.  I had a theatre teacher once named Anna Smulowitz who created a play about a ghetto in World War II. . . performed said play in Germany and was stopped by customs and arrested for simply bringing the props to the country.  Even after explaining herself and why she had a nazi flag, she was threatened with imprisonment.  She never did get the flag back, but the play went on. 

I also believe that the symbol for the sun (the swatstika) was in the floor of a southern Statehouse. . . and has since been removed because it offended people.

neither the swatstika nor the confederate flag offend me.  I'm sure it's because I wasn't a target nor a part of either movement.
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Alex Libman

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2008, 06:28:38 PM »

I think a lot of countries are using the five-sided pentagram symbol without really thinking about what it means.  From kindergarten onwards you're taught that it means "star", but c'mon, a star is a huge sphere of gas undergoing a violent chemical reaction that takes billions of years, and then goes boom and transforms itself into a huge spinning cloud of shit, or maybe even a black hole.  The five-pointed star / pentagram have a long and confusing history, I think it would be best to stay away from them.

And the red-and-white bars...  Some Native Americans used to call it "the flag of the seven rivers of blood", referring to past massacres.  Anarcho-Capitalism is a movement that exists beyond national borders, so borrowing American symbolism seems downright silly to me.

And, c'mon, we have full control over all the colors and pixels in our flags!  Why are we thinking like an 18th century seamstress with dull scissors?


EDIT:  for when I change my avatar later:



Subtle Watermark Version
             

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DogOn

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #53 on: March 08, 2008, 07:18:34 AM »

Sumerian for freedom



Or just a plain white flag in honor of the freedom fighting Liberi.
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Alex Libman

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2008, 09:07:55 AM »

Of course in ancient Sumer freedom meant "yaay, my master forgot to beat me today"!
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jimmed

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2008, 01:46:30 PM »

The JW's knocked on the door this morning handing out some kind of Jesus fest flyer. Fuckers.

Are you going?

No.

No.





























No.
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sdubois92

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #56 on: March 09, 2008, 01:24:11 PM »

I don't like the blue with gold and black. . . but it's your flag. . .

I always preferred hands shaking. . . not to show cooperation really, but to show the 'deal'. . . a transaction.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again. . . in my opinion the confederate flag is something that always catches my eye for it's graphic design.  I tend to prefer "jack" type ensigns like the Union Jack and the Jamaican flag.  I desire symmetry.  I always always loved the confederate jack (not particularly the stars and bars as its predecessor).

Perhaps a confederate flag incorporating the black and gold, with a symbol in the middle. . . god I wish I still had my photoshop CD so I could reinstall it.

confederate jack


confederate flag



an iraqi version hehe


anything that people would relate to slavery and racism should be immediately ruled out.
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AntonLee

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #57 on: March 09, 2008, 06:47:04 PM »

"I'm bringin' it back"  --Clerks 2

spread the word, stars and bars represent rebellion.  Like some southerners say "heritage not hate" -- thankfully I can show you "Dukes of Hazzard" the movie -- which had a scene portraying the assumptions of racism on the part of some people.  Knowing the characters you would come to understand that they are anything but racist.  It didn't matter to them.  When spoken harshly to by black citizens driving by their vehicle (the General Lee) with rebel flag on top. . . the viewer saw that some symbols can be misconstrued.

as a child, I was never taught that the stars and bars represented racism, hate, or slavery.  By my government indoctrination it was a symbol for a group of people that would DARE to take themselves out of the United States system, and how the good guys stopped them from breaking up the SACRED UNION.  Later on it represented to me the ability to secede from a United States that I more and more began to dislike. 

It's distressing growing up a 'patriotic' citizen, only to have more and more examples of things I thought were wrong.  It's surely not easy waving an American flag as an Eagle Scout when I continued educating myself in history, much more than you get in public schools. 

I agree, the confederate flag is a symbol of racism and hate to some Americans. . . and then some other people "get it"
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Dave The Dope Man

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #58 on: March 09, 2008, 07:37:48 PM »

How about making it just a white flag to symbolize purity? 
by the way, I'm not choosing white over black, I actually like the color black better.  It's just that white signifies not only purity but also humility (as in surrendering)  and I believe that a true nation is a humble nation.
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Alex Libman

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Re: What'd you add to *your* version of the Anarcho-Capitalist flag?
« Reply #59 on: March 09, 2008, 08:17:26 PM »

Well, white does have some laundry-related advantages.  A black flag would fade after a few decades, but white...  bleach that motherfucker!  :lol:

Seriously, no.  Black is as mathematically pure as white, and it isn't the international symbol of surrender (or, in some Asian countries, also a flag of mourning).
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