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BonerJoe

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Re: The New Hampshire Currency Exchange Company
« Reply #90 on: December 24, 2009, 09:56:31 AM »

Hopefully never. With the silver not being in a central location, it would be hard to invalidate the notes in one sweep.

Then they'll just raid everyone on the list.
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Re: The New Hampshire Currency Exchange Company
« Reply #91 on: December 24, 2009, 09:57:58 AM »

Yeah, so how long before this is shut down like the Liberty Dollar?

No thanks.

Can you think of a system that would work?

Just using generic silver rounds without any branding. But someone wants to make money off this venture, so I doubt that.
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« Reply #92 on: December 24, 2009, 11:58:52 AM »

The problem is the different tiers and popularities of rounds and coins. An Engelhard is worth more than a Santa Claus round.
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Re: The New Hampshire Currency Exchange Company
« Reply #93 on: December 24, 2009, 12:14:52 PM »

The problem is the different tiers and popularities of rounds and coins. An Engelhard is worth more than a Santa Claus round.

This is why we'll never have liberty.
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« Reply #94 on: December 24, 2009, 02:17:42 PM »

Nah. There just needs to be a better system for splitting prices up with different gold, silver, and copper.
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Re: The New Hampshire Currency Exchange Company
« Reply #95 on: December 24, 2009, 09:48:51 PM »

Heres my wishful plan (fits with what I think BJ wants too), someone needs to design/distribute a package that comes with everything you need to make your own silver bullion coins. Cheap. There should be two types. Set One is for turning sheet metal into coins, Set Two for turning old silver scrap (or coins) into the coins, and a third set for participating businesses if they want it.
Included in Set One is small versions of the following:
Blanking press.
Annealing furnace.
Upsetting Mill.
Coin press that stamps "1troy ounce bullion" or other denomination.
A simple coin sizer/frame.

I havent given much thought into what the second Set needs but I'm thinking Set Two may need to include some sort of melting furnace, mold, and way of separating silver from other metals.

Much like pirate radio, weed growers, and other black market agoristic activities there would be too many people working to produce the same products that the sale would be nearly impossible to stamp out.

Set three is just a Silver Purity Analyzer.

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« Reply #96 on: December 24, 2009, 10:00:35 PM »

That would be pretty awesome. I think analyzing purity would be key to the system because of fraud, though. But that should be done anyways.
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Re: The New Hampshire Currency Exchange Company
« Reply #97 on: December 24, 2009, 11:46:24 PM »

I threw together a site to record this idea so it doesnt get lost (just now), I'll do some more research.
http://thesilverreplacement.weebly.com/
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Re: The New Hampshire Currency Exchange Company
« Reply #98 on: December 25, 2009, 02:55:47 AM »

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« Reply #99 on: December 25, 2009, 10:52:45 AM »

i think casting blanks and then stamping them would have to be the way. Making sheets of metal for coins, if you've ever seen how it's done, is very labor intensive. Cast the blanks using this method (http://www.jewelryschool.net/waxdesign.htm), trim them for weight, and then strike them using dies with a hand (http://www.oldworldanvils.com/flypresses/index.html) or mechanical press. Since it's silver, it's fairly soft. Supposedly you can even do a decent job whacking the dies with a hammer to get an impression (http://www.fleur-de-coin.com/articles/ancientcoinminting.asp). Have an outside company make custom dies. Probably run $200 a set (obverse and reverse) in quantity.
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« Reply #100 on: December 25, 2009, 01:35:58 PM »

[...]  here is our community currency backed by silver  [...]

I've decided that currency should either be made from or be backed by something that represents value in a survival situation.  Gold & silver can experience as much inflation and value collapse as fiat currency!  Why exchange pieces of paper that represent shiny metals you can't eat, drink, communicate with, fire from your gun, wipe your butt with, plant to have a harvest by autumn, etc?  Maybe we should stop trading pieces of paper issued by "money banks" and start trading shares in "primary value banks" - farms, grain silos, local weapons manufacturing plants, etc?


I would love to see a group of dissimilar small business people try a trade out commodity system in NH. It would only take about 10 individuals to make a almost independent loop.
Any system, that was used to keep track of trade wealth, would have to have a self destruct though.
If a tradeout system lasted for 10 years or so it would create a lot of wealth the feds would like to steal.
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« Reply #101 on: December 25, 2009, 04:01:03 PM »

I think there needs to be some branding so that counterfeits can be more easily rooted out.
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« Reply #102 on: December 25, 2009, 04:23:32 PM »

I think there needs to be some branding so that counterfeits can be more easily rooted out.

with coins, branding does not matter as much. Just need to test to see if the silver is real silver, with branding serving the purpose of company xyz tested and guarantees this to be pure silver.
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Re: The New Hampshire Currency Exchange Company
« Reply #103 on: December 25, 2009, 07:43:18 PM »

I think there needs to be some branding so that counterfeits can be more easily rooted out.

with coins, branding does not matter as much. Just need to test to see if the silver is real silver, with branding serving the purpose of company xyz tested and guarantees this to be pure silver.

Yeah branding is uneccessary, just weigh it and test for silver.
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Re: The New Hampshire Currency Exchange Company
« Reply #104 on: December 25, 2009, 07:43:40 PM »

I'm going to start working on this.
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