Who's that ugly woman? I'd avoid the company based on that alone.
And is 1 gram of gold so cumbersome it needs to be substituted w/ paper for daily transactions? The nice thing about gold is it's no problem to carry several thousand dollars worth in your pocket.
Also, I'd get rid of that part that says it's meant to be used in place of the dollar. Does the issuing company really give a damn what it's used for? It might be incriminating, if not now then soon enough.
Word on the street is, right now the smart money is shorting gold.
Word on the street is, right now the smart money is shorting gold. |
Who's that ugly woman? I'd avoid the company based on that alone.
And is 1 gram of gold so cumbersome it needs to be substituted w/ paper for daily transactions? The nice thing about gold is it's no problem to carry several thousand dollars worth in your pocket.
Who's that ugly woman? I'd avoid the company based on that alone.
And is 1 gram of gold so cumbersome it needs to be substituted w/ paper for daily transactions? The nice thing about gold is it's no problem to carry several thousand dollars worth in your pocket.
I'd imagine that there should be notes for much smaller quantities of gold. I mean, how can somebody give change for a gram of gold, say, I I wanted to buy a pack of chips with it?
I thought so... still. nickel and copper and tungsten are fine for small purchases. Maybe in libertopia I'd be down for paper gold but not today, unless the company promises to defend my gold from ALL thieves. I'd want to own a few notes just to be part of that but it still wouldn't be good for everyday use, that kind of security is too expensive.
Word on the street is, right now the smart money is shorting gold.Of course it is. The fundamentals indicate the economy is round the corner; gold is flirting with $890.
The only theives that I'd be worried about is the government.
The only theives that I'd be worried about is the government.
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I don't much like the expiration. I'm out if they expire, I'm OK with them depreciating in proportion to storage expenses.
I don't much like the expiration. I'm out if they expire, I'm OK with them depreciating in proportion to storage expenses.
Actually, I was wrong, gold is worth much more than that. just me and my faulty math XD
Here is a new chart showing the correct numbers
http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pvMwwWw98ERoWhIwMhkK0Ww (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pvMwwWw98ERoWhIwMhkK0Ww)
How much does that mean the value of your money has declined?!
Why just NH?
Well since I live in WI I have no motivation to support your business.
Well since I live in WI I have no motivation to support your business.
Would anyone here be interested in starting an actual company?
Well since I live in WI I have no motivation to support your business.
Would anyone here be interested in starting an actual company?
Id be interested in helping, but not enough knowledge to start.
This is a variation of your first design. :) What do you think?Hey that's the first one I actually wouldn't mind carrying.
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7118/hampshirecurrency2.jpg)
This is a variation of your first design. :) What do you think?
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/7118/hampshirecurrency2.jpg)
Cool design.
If you do actually do this, it's probably a really bad idea to have "New Hampshire" in the name of the company or on the bill. That's more or less begging for the cops to call you counterfeiters the way the feds did with the Liberty Dollar.
28 grams in a drug dealer ounce. A troy ounce has 31 grams.
So, if I buy 28 gram-notes, you'll exchange it for one ounce of gold?
I can send you the psd file for the paper currency via email. :) Here is another one for you. :)This is a variation of your first design. :) What do you think?
I like :) It's much better than my simple designs :)
could you send me the file so I could mess with it a bit? It seems perfect for me :)
That's awesome :)I can send you the psd file for the paper currency via email. :) Here is another one for you. :)This is a variation of your first design. :) What do you think?
I like :) It's much better than my simple designs :)
could you send me the file so I could mess with it a bit? It seems perfect for me :)
(http://img22.imageshack.us/img22/226/anaphilocard.jpg)
I still vote to not include NH at all. There is NO good reason. |
Yeah, great for automats and blind people - awesome! :D
Ayn Rand used the U.S. dollar sign as her personal symbol... Ironygasm!
Why not put several dead intellectuals on there, including Murray Rothbard, Ludwig von Mises, etc. Or maybe some living ones will give their permission, like David D. Friedman, Lew Rockwell, etc.
But the main reason is propaganda.
But the main reason is propaganda.
Why bother printing anyone's portrait on a currency note?
Seriously though, lets research this shit.
first problem is having NH in its name
by the way, I've been thinking of the artwork. I think a camera on one of the coins, and a couch with ian raking it on the other.
by the way, I've been thinking of the artwork. I think a camera on one of the coins, and a couch with ian raking it on the other.
If there's any FTL host on the coins, it should be a topless Julia.
Ok, I'm leaning towards making custom silver coins.How much do those cost?
http://www.regencymint.com/CUSTOMMINTING.htm
[...] here is our community currency backed by silver [...] |
Yeah, so how long before this is shut down like the Liberty Dollar?
No thanks.
Hopefully never. With the silver not being in a central location, it would be hard to invalidate the notes in one sweep.
Yeah, so how long before this is shut down like the Liberty Dollar?
No thanks.
Can you think of a system that would work?
The problem is the different tiers and popularities of rounds and coins. An Engelhard is worth more than a Santa Claus round.
[...] here is our community currency backed by silver [...]
I've decided (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=30995.msg572521#msg572521) that currency should either be made from or be backed by something that represents value in a survival situation. Gold & silver can experience as much inflation and value collapse as fiat currency! Why exchange pieces of paper that represent shiny metals you can't eat, drink, communicate with, fire from your gun, wipe your butt with, plant to have a harvest by autumn, etc? Maybe we should stop trading pieces of paper issued by "money banks" and start trading shares in "primary value banks" - farms, grain silos, local weapons manufacturing plants, etc?
I think there needs to be some branding so that counterfeits can be more easily rooted out.
I think there needs to be some branding so that counterfeits can be more easily rooted out.
with coins, branding does not matter as much. Just need to test to see if the silver is real silver, with branding serving the purpose of company xyz tested and guarantees this to be pure silver.
(who can afford a $1000 press?)
(who can afford a $1000 press?)
I'm sure people would entrust friends to make their coinage for them.
[...] here is our community currency backed by silver [...]
I've decided (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=30995.msg572521#msg572521) that currency should either be made from or be backed by something that represents value in a survival situation. Gold & silver can experience as much inflation and value collapse as fiat currency! Why exchange pieces of paper that represent shiny metals you can't eat, drink, communicate with, fire from your gun, wipe your butt with, plant to have a harvest by autumn, etc? Maybe we should stop trading pieces of paper issued by "money banks" and start trading shares in "primary value banks" - farms, grain silos, local weapons manufacturing plants, etc?
I would love to see a group of dissimilar small business people try a trade out commodity system in NH.
It would only take about 10 individuals to make a almost independent loop.
Any system, that was used to keep track of trade wealth, would have to have a self destruct though. |
Just need to test to see if the silver is real silver, with branding serving the purpose of company xyz tested and guarantees this to be pure silver.Yeah branding is uneccessary, just weigh it and test for silver.
make sure you change the type of account you are logging into before you log in. It defaults to merchant. You need to click 'member login' where the password is, and then log in.
I want to buy silver from them also, but buying a few ounces from them is expensive: 7$ shipping. Buying 100 is cheaper: $7 shipping. :D
Not really sure how that last picture had anything to do with anything, but I'm glad that this topic has made some good discussion. If I finally do come up (Ya, I know that I said I'd be up in two weeks last year, shit happened) I'd definately be buying a crucible and melting coinage.
Anyone know how to seperate silver from baser metals?
Not really sure how that last picture had anything to do with anything, but I'm glad that this topic has made some good discussion. If I finally do come up (Ya, I know that I said I'd be up in two weeks last year, shit happened) I'd definately be buying a crucible and melting coinage.
Anyone know how to seperate silver from baser metals?
It depends on the metals. It is has a higher melting point than silver, then you heat it up until the silver is melted then strain it. There are more complex ways than this that involve heating, chemicals, etc.
I've done zinc quite a few times on my kitchen gas stove.
So, I suppose just do a round of heatings, first to 800F, strain out zinc. then to 1702F strain out germanium, then to 1760F strain out silver, then to 1981F strain out copper. . .
Acetylene?
I think so. Although it may be tough to do anything with platinum since that is about the maximum temperature of the flame itself (or so I read).
You do need a way to measure the temperature of the mixed metals so you can achieve the ideal ones, and keep the temperature steady until you are thru with the process. That shouldnt be too difficult though.
Oh, and as far as copper goes, pre 1982 pennies are worth more in copper (almost .03c)
Oh, and as far as copper goes, pre 1982 pennies are worth more in copper (almost .03c)
I've got hundreds of pounds of copper, it's mighty hard to get rid of them at more than 1.4x face. Things are worth what people will pay, and people won't pay 2 cents. At least yet.
Oh, and as far as copper goes, pre 1982 pennies are worth more in copper (almost .03c)
I've got hundreds of pounds of copper, it's mighty hard to get rid of them at more than 1.4x face. Things are worth what people will pay, and people won't pay 2 cents. At least yet.
What I mean is, If I melt the pennies, I might be able to get more. . .
Oh, and as far as copper goes, pre 1982 pennies are worth more in copper (almost .03c)
I've got hundreds of pounds of copper, it's mighty hard to get rid of them at more than 1.4x face. Things are worth what people will pay, and people won't pay 2 cents. At least yet.
What I mean is, If I melt the pennies, I might be able to get more. . .
Get some price quotes from scrap dealers in your area first. You'd be surprised how little they pay vs. spot price.
What I mean is, If I melt the pennies, I might be able to get more. . .
Oh, and as far as copper goes, pre 1982 pennies are worth more in copper (almost .03c)
I've got hundreds of pounds of copper, it's mighty hard to get rid of them at more than 1.4x face. Things are worth what people will pay, and people won't pay 2 cents. At least yet.
What I mean is, If I melt the pennies, I might be able to get more. . .
Get some price quotes from scrap dealers in your area first. You'd be surprised how little they pay vs. spot price.
I would imagine if I refined the metal myself that I could get higher scrap price. . .but I get over half spot for aluminium .50 a lbs, spot is .92