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Free Talk Live => Photoshops => Topic started by: Yamguy on July 12, 2005, 11:20:48 AM
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I'll post em here whenever theres a good one.
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Funny, but anyone that joins the military and doesn't think they could go to war deserves what they get.
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Aww, poor Manwich. :lol:
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yeah, I don't know who did my Bush avatar - it's from there... but well done, whoever you are.
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WINNER!
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
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That's just too good... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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:lol:
that's great.
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Wow, that's very well done.
But why does everyone hate DARPA? :?
(Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency)
http://www.darpa.mil/
Is research bad?
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Research is not bad, but inefficient, politically motivated research could be.
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DARPA's 2004 Grand Challenge was pretty cool. They did a lot of interesting offroad vehicle mods. http://www.darpa.mil/grandchallenge04/media_gallery.htm
Most of the people doing stuff for DARPA are just mechanical and electric engineers doing side jobs for some extra cash.
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lol
really nice photoshop job.
love that dew on Cheney, btw.... :D
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Research on how to kill people more effectively is, in my opinion, a very bad thing :)
and just think.. any new ideas that come from this research will only be used to oppress the citizens even more. How is that good?
I would NEVER contribute my services to government... unless they paid me so much I could move to an island paradise country and live like a king...outside US extradition of course!
And the vampire / liberty thing I believe was from The Nation magazine, which is a great mag. Or it might be from Village Voice.
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OT: The artwork is great but I don't too much care for Rense. I used to listen to him back when there was much less "alternative media" but now there are dozens of outlets. He does some political and out there stuff, though not as good as CoasttoCoast. He looks really weird, which is cool. And something about him just really turned me off.. I think he's very anti-abortion or something.
Well damn, looking at his website, I like what I see very much. Good articles, Chomsky quotes etc. He did say something that just really turned me off at some point though. And it looks like he is internet only...
Now Mike Malloy from white rose society.org.. haha I love that guy.
Very anti-religious and not afraid to speak the truth.
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The chomsky quote is indeed a good quote, but chomsky is a tool.
Personally the "weird" stuff that he does isnt nearly as good as what coast does - but the political stuff he does is miles ahead of coast.
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Really? I stopped listening to rense a year or two ago, because like you said coast does the weird stuff better. But then with George Noory coast has gotten a lot more political than it used to be, so I figured they were doing that better too. I mean they've done some tough 9-11 shows and other controversial topics. So I'm surprised you say Rense is better.. I may give him a try some day. But 2 hours of FTL a day is usually plenty of talk radio for me!
And what's wrong with Chomsky?!!!? And who in the world could he be a tool for?
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I'll be honest with you - I'm not sure whats up with Chomsky. He isnt stupid, maybe its just ego - or maybe he has an agenda, I dont know.
He seems to be very much in favor of giving the UN greater control and power of things though, same with the 'world court'. Hes a globalist, in my opinion, and he still thinks that 9-11 was done by Arabs in caves.
Rense is very good though, especially for the political stuff - but certainly, Noory is good as well. Rense is just much more knowledgeable on the subject and conducts the interviews better, he has a more 'conversational' style of journalism and interviewing.
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Chomsky is a socialist. Nuff said.
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Well, certainly - that too.
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The chomsky quote is indeed a good quote, but chomsky is a tool.
I concur 100%.
I'll expand further and state that Choamsky's just your typical lefty.
Personally the "weird" stuff that he does isnt nearly as good as what coast does - but the political stuff he does is miles ahead of coast.
Very true, once again.
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Any person supported by the corporate media is a tool. Chomsky writes very well, but his mentality is obviously that of a socialist, lefty.
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And again, the most troubling thing he promotes is giving a world government like the UN more power.
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But Chomsky's not at all supported by the corporate media. I taped this show on him (haven't gotten around to watching it all) done by the CBC (Canadian Broadcast Co) and it showed how many speeches, books, talks, etc. he gave, and he was only on ONE American news show over this several year period.. He said some controversial things and then was never invited on ANY US media. He may be a socialist, but he makes some very good points, such as how the US is the one committing war crimes by invading Iraq, etc. As for the world/UN stuff, I don't know his position but I think he's somewhat pro-UN / world court mostly because he wants to set up a rule of law. International law has to exist to some extent, or else nations can do whatever they want to other nations without retribution (or I suppose you could say, free market responses, but those haven't worked very well.. we are not suffering from attacking Iraq even though much of Europe was vehemently opposed). But I am by no means a Chomsky expert and haven't even read any of his books yet. I just think he's really really smart and makes some great points. And I always enjoy hearing from an intelligent linguist, as language and its use really fascinates me, especially the orwellian propaganda that insidiously is poisoning the mind of young Americans today.
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hey Spicy,
Just an FYI...
the CBC is a very left wing (largely gov't funded) propaganda machine.... so it's no surprise they will play up Chomsky to be some amazing human being.
I understand you're from the US, so I wouldn't expect you to know that.
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Funny, but anyone that joins the military and doesn't think they could go to war deserves what they get.
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Only a fool would join the military freely.
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Only a fool would disobey the suggestions of his own avatar. :roll:
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Chomsky is a socialist. Nuff said.
Troll.
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Yeah the CBC and the BBC are shit. They're paid for by the government, and thus they must comply with what the government allows them to say.
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Well, the BBC surprisingly gets away with saying a lot about the United States. The thing is; it is never televised over here. And very few Brits really care about what is happening over here in America. They view conspiratorial information as intently as Shanek or some other neanderthal in denial. It slips right through the cracks.
Thankfully, we do have some sources in the UK. The thing is, though...a person has to have a license to watch television over there. Can you imagine? A license to watch TV? :lol: Nuts.
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You need a liscence to have a TV in the UK?
Are you fucking kidding me?
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Nope. It's fucked up. In fact, I think that you need one to own a tele.
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WTF... a license to own one?? really??
ok... that's tyrannical enough... but to watch it as well??
links?
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Yup, a friend of mine is over in the UK for a graduate program and she said that there are "TV police" that harass her every now and then because they can't believe she doesn't have a license for her residence (she doesn't have a TV). I think it is all the BBC.
link:
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/index.jsp
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Only a fool would disobey the suggestions of his own avatar. :roll:
Yeah, that made sense. All hail avatar. Don't use your mind, use your avatar.
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Only a fool would disobey the suggestions of his own avatar. :roll:
Yeah, that made sense. All hail avatar. Don't use your mind, use your avatar.
Actually it was an implied statement. The words, written in the dialect which we human beings speak, suggest via being the language we use to communicate with one another -that you are obviously missing the point, and that you talk too much as well. :P
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Sometimes I think libertarians take things too far. You know the quote about being able to hold two opposing thoughts in your mind at the same time.. Well, take the BBC / CBC / NPR for example. I can both disagree with the idea that government funds news and entertainment, and at the same time state that those sources are the most factual and do the best job reporting the news objectively. And for the record, my NPR station is almost 90% supported by private money. When you take into account all the political favors Clear Channel and Big Media get, I'm betting they are more "government subsidized" than NPR is.
And what about these BBC films people are always posting here? I've seen the one on Stupidity and the 3 part expose on Al Quaeda--but the BBC is shit right?
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Sometimes I think libertarians take things too far. You know the quote about being able to hold two opposing thoughts in your mind at the same time.. Well, take the BBC / CBC / NPR for example. I can both disagree with the idea that government funds news and entertainment, and at the same time state that those sources are the most factual and do the best job reporting the news objectively. And for the record, my NPR station is almost 90% supported by private money. When you take into account all the political favors Clear Channel and Big Media get, I'm betting they are more "government subsidized" than NPR is.
And what about these BBC films people are always posting here? I've seen the one on Stupidity and the 3 part expose on Al Quaeda--but the BBC is shit right?
No. The BBC has some great in-depth reporting. The thing is, they are never aired in the USA, so it matters very little who sees them.
Think about it. Mainstream corporate media OWNS most of the minds in this country. That is fact, undeniably. Alternate media (which is where we sometimes get the BBC documentaries) is a tiny fruit fly compared to the (Bear the size of Africa) corporate media.
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I have the BBC America channel, but I don't know what the difference between that and the actual BBC is.
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I have the BBC America channel, but I don't know what the difference between that and the actual BBC is.
Night and day. Everything that comes to the US is censored.
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I have the BBC America channel, but I don't know what the difference between that and the actual BBC is.
BBC America is actually a Discovery Networks channel. They have a license with the BBC to show their programs.
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Ahh, very interesting.
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Apparently this is an actual New Orleans P.D. shirt!?! Holy Shit.
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What's next?
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Are there private S.W.A.T. forces?
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Apparently this is an actual New Orleans P.D. shirt!?! Holy Shit.
are you sure though?
I used to work as a graphic designer at a large silk-screening factory, and it's quite easy to slap on "Anytown, PD" and have additional elements added w/ no questions asked.
I'm not saying it's impossible of course, I just question it's origin.
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Yeah, I worked with SWAT teams and SORT teams and they all have both privately made T-shirts made, and others are bought through the department or prison via some affiliation. Sometimes fairs and gun shows have them.
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Yeah, I worked with SWAT teams and SORT teams and they all have both privately made T-shirts made, and others are bought through the department or prison via some affiliation. Sometimes fairs and gun shows have them.
Interesting, so designs like that are officially endorsed by said dept's?
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Yeah, I worked with SWAT teams and SORT teams and they all have both privately made T-shirts made, and others are bought through the department or prison via some affiliation. Sometimes fairs and gun shows have them.
Interesting, so designs like that are officially endorsed by said dept's?
Not that I know of. The only uniform that is acceptable is what the department decides is SOP. Usually a plain black T-shirt and black tactical pants and black boots for SWAT and SORT team members, and usually officers can vary slightly because they carry more weight, but in all, nobody deviates from this. The guy in that pic above is wearing a NOMEX suit, and he has obviously pulled it down due to the heat most likely, and he can be punished for this by the CO if he gets caught and if it actually is enforced. But, most likely, nothing happened, and the officer in the picture was just never penalized for breaking SOP.
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Yeah, I worked with SWAT teams and SORT teams and they all have both privately made T-shirts made, and others are bought through the department or prison via some affiliation. Sometimes fairs and gun shows have them.
Interesting, so designs like that are officially endorsed by said dept's?
Not that I know of. The only uniform that is acceptable is what the department decides is SOP. Usually a plain black T-shirt and black tactical pants and black boots for SWAT and SORT team members, and usually officers can vary slightly because they carry more weight, but in all, nobody deviates from this. The guy in that pic above is wearing a NOMEX suit, and he has obviously pulled it down due to the heat most likely, and he can be punished for this by the CO if he gets caught and if it actually is enforced. But, most likely, nothing happened, and the officer in the picture was just never penalized for breaking SOP.
oh I see - thanks for clearing that up.
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Apparently this is an actual New Orleans P.D. shirt!?! Holy Shit.
Both SS and the swat team pictures borrow from the Norse mythological symbology for power, yet both fail to realize that the symbolic association of Thor and Odin to lightning is only vague, both deities had their own respective symbols. And both deities were primarily deities of wisdom, knowledge, and justice, and not symbols of authority.
-- Bridget
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I have the BBC America channel, but I don't know what the difference between that and the actual BBC is.
It has adverts and shows that are not made by the BBC on it.
BBC has no ads and shit shows that the public pay for through a £145 a year tax.
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I have the BBC America channel, but I don't know what the difference between that and the actual BBC is.
It has adverts and shows that are not made by the BBC on it.
BBC has no ads and shit shows that the public pay for through a £145 a year tax.
what's this? every tax-paying citizen receives an actual 145 pound bill specifically for the BBC? and people aren't freaking out?
usually w/ socialism they hide all the costs in the general taxes so people won't realize what crap they're paying for....
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That picture was dumb, I don't dig this anti-Israel attitude at all.
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I have the BBC America channel, but I don't know what the difference between that and the actual BBC is.
It has adverts and shows that are not made by the BBC on it.
BBC has no ads and shit shows that the public pay for through a £145 a year tax.
what's this? every tax-paying citizen receives an actual 145 pound bill specifically for the BBC? and people aren't freaking out?
usually w/ socialism they hide all the costs in the general taxes so people won't realize what crap they're paying for....
I do think that some of the "licence fee" goes to the other free to air channels like ITV, C4 and Five - but not sure.
BBC want to increase the "TV licence fee" as well. Private television companies want a slice of the licence fee because they say that the BBC have an unfair advantage because they are able to tax the public, therefore having a guaranteed income without having to justify it. There are no ads though, which is nice in a way...
...would rather have decent television rather than the (cheap) rubbish DIY shows they put on - although the documentaries and most radio stations are good.
but yes, the "television licence fee" as it is known is a tax on top of all the other taxes. if you dont pay, then you go to court and get a £1000 fine.
If you still own a black and white tele, the licence fee is something like £45. You have no choice but to pay, you can subscribe to a private cable or satellite company, but you have to pay their subscription fee and the government tv licence. New Zealand scrapped this tax years ago because of public outrage - the UK seem to still want it for some strange reason.
its a joke.
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:D In reply to Mobiledigits question re private swat.
The few i can think of are bechtel,blackwater,maybe dyncorp.Haliburton probably contracts infantry as well.Any secret clearance or better is worth a sick salary offer from blackwater $200,000+ annual.
sad but true,some of these private contractors provided corporate security in New Orleans post Katrina.Some of these outfits have their handywork posted @ ogrish.Personally I feel that because a contractor has to answer to share holders,not the people first,they have no right to police or soldier over others.Our present dictator feels differently.
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This picture is anti-Israel bullshit.
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This picture is anti-Israel bullshit.
Please,Israel deserves a little shit.Any race or religion that claims inherent divinity is full of shit.Jews didn't like German supremacy,or the german belief in a greater homeland for germans.
Why should I happily eat any of that anti-goyem shit.All men are created equal! Palestinian and jew. if that is not true,than follow the logic back to the ovens.Is it not bad enough that we are losing american troops in a war over fucking sand.Israel is threatening to start nuking Iran anyway, so where is the divine sanctity behind that piece of desert shit coming from?
I said oven in a harsh context so let me clarify.6million+ jews died. Very sad,sadder still that the D.O.D. recruited many of these war criminals asap. 90million+ blacks died as a result of slavery here,and at sea.Slightly disproportionate losses I would say.
Everybody has their own problems,Let Israel take care of theirs,America take care of it's own. Every time I hear the cry "Oh don't talk bad about Israel" I lose respect for that individual.How can one desert tribe demand respect while making religious elitism national policy?If it's wrong for klans men to believe they are supreme,How can judaism proclaim supremacy as their right?
If Sharon wern't a whore, he wouldnt pick up the money.
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Please,Israel deserves a little shit.Any race or religion that claims inherent divinity is full of shit.Jews didn't like German supremacy,or the german belief in a greater homeland for germans.
Why should I happily eat any of that anti-goyem shit.All men are created equal! Palestinian and jew. if that is not true,than follow the logic back to the ovens.Is it not bad enough that we are losing american troops in a war over fucking sand.Israel is threatening to start nuking Iran anyway, so where is the divine sanctity behind that piece of desert shit coming from?
I said oven in a harsh context so let me clarify.6million+ jews died. Very sad,sadder still that the D.O.D. recruited many of these war criminals asap. 90million+ blacks died as a result of slavery here,and at sea.Slightly disproportionate losses I would say.
Everybody has their own problems,Let Israel take care of theirs,America take care of it's own. Every time I hear the cry "Oh don't talk bad about Israel" I lose respect for that individual.How can one desert tribe demand respect while making religious elitism national policy?If it's wrong for klans men to believe they are supreme,How can judaism proclaim supremacy as their right?
If Sharon wern't a whore, he wouldnt pick up the money.
American slavery was many things, but it was not an organized attempt to wipe all Africans from the face of the earth. Death was never the intent, and that's what makes it different than the Holocaust. The US didn't go to war in Africa and set up death camps. Slavery was immoral, but any comparisons to the Holocaust are very undeserved. With US treatment of Native Americans, you may have a better point, but the goal was their land not their corpses.
I think of Israel as a Jew State Project. A bunch of people who want to live under a common (in this case religious) culture get together and do so. Things were very peaceful before the British government took control of Palestine after World War I. Before that, Jews bought land from Arabs willingly and the two peoples lived side by side in relative peace. Then, the British started talking about homelands for the Jews, and homelands for the Arabs, and it was all shot to hell. The UN decided, after WWII (surely in part over guilt about the Holocaust), to form two states in Palestine -- one Arab and one Jewish. The Arabs rejected it, Israel accepted it, war broke out, and the international community recognized Israel as a sovereign state. You need to have a better understanding of the history before you start spouting opinions on the topic.
You seem to be confused between Israel and Judaism; the two are not the same. Israel claims a right to exist not because of their divine selection by God, but because they are a recognized nationstate like Iran or Egypt. They use a lot of Jewish rhetoric (not unlike the Christian rhetoric our president espouses), but it's only because the politicians know their audience.
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Wake up Braddogg. You fucking people really are clueless.
How many UN sanctions does Israel get away with breaking? Do you idiots even know that the United States IS ISRAEL, and we own that shithole? How many of you motherfucking fools are willing to wake up and see that the middle east is undergoing ethnic cleansing?? "It's like a freestate project.." MY ASS. Jesus Christ, are you fucking people for real?
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Wake up Braddogg. You fucking people really are clueless.
How many UN sanctions does Israel get away with breaking? Do you idiots even know that the United States IS ISRAEL, and we own that shithole? How many of you motherfucking fools are willing to wake up and see that the middle east is undergoing ethnic cleansing?? "It's like a freestate project.." MY ASS. Jesus Christ, are you fucking people for real?
An ethnic cleansing? Seriously? You should stick to 9/11 conspiracies. If you're going to make outrageous claims like that, you better at least give us a website with some "research" "proving" it. And give us some free porn sites. Because I've done the research (but it was at a Zionist-Illuminati-controlled university or something like that, I'm sure), and I think you're wrong. Giving us free porn would at least add something to the discussion and the general happiness of the world. Out of curiosity, what are your thoughts on the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion?
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Then Israel started hammas to steer the most violent away from the plo,hammas being used for "friendly pearl harbor like events" scenarios. The whole b.s. terror stunt is old and used. My question is more along the lines of why should i cry for others losses when our own seem geater or equal?
" The US didn't go to war in Africa and set up death camps. Slavery was immoral, but any comparisons to the Holocaust are very undeserved."
Are you serious? We set up death camps in the freight buisness end of that, enroute to island camps.If they survived the passage only to to be worked {many to death } for the oppresssors who abducted them.
Let israel cry for israel,Americans need to cry for America.She's getting raped as we type!
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Then Israel started hammas to steer the most violent away from the plo,hammas being used for "friendly pearl harbor like events" scenarios. The whole b.s. terror stunt is old and used. My question is more along the lines of why should i cry for others losses when our own seem geater or equal?
" The US didn't go to war in Africa and set up death camps. Slavery was immoral, but any comparisons to the Holocaust are very undeserved."
Are you serious? We set up death camps in the freight buisness end of that, enroute to island camps.If they survived the passage only to to be worked {many to death } for the oppresssors who abducted them.
Let israel cry for israel,Americans need to cry for America.She's getting raped as we type!
Your facts are incorrect. That's my main problem; I object primarily to your poor interpretation of history. Israel did not create and control Hamas at any point. Why would they? Hamas helped bring the Palestinian plight to the world stage, the last thing Israel wanted. As for slavery, many people died, and there was a lack of concern for the health of the slaves, but the INTENT was never to kill all the Africans as a cosmic evil force. This cannot even be discussed between two rational people. The intent was not genocide in the case of slavery, but it was in the Holocaust. Incidently, I'm all for cutting aid to Israel (and every foreign country), but not because Israel is an immoral nation (at least no more immoral than Korea or Germany).
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http://jewwatch.com/jew-terrorists-mossad.html
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I bet he gets all the bitches too.
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http://jewwatch.com/jew-terrorists-mossad.html
Have you ever heard of the game "Floor 13"? It's one of my favorites. It can get repetitive after a while, though. It's 15-20-years-old, so you can probably find a free copy on abandonia.com or the-underdogs.com. You'd like it. It's all about trying to organize this kind of stuff -- assassinations of political opponents, putting wire taps on your enemies -- on behalf of the unnamed British Prime Minister.
Anyway, I was looking through the site, and they have reams of paper on the Jewish world media monopoly, yet cite sources like the Jerusalem Post (I've freelanced with them, they're owned and edited by Jews and are very pro-Israel) who have broken several stories on the Mossad page. Apparently the worldwide Jewish media conspiracy hasn't been very effective. And I don't really trust Syria to tell the truth on Mossad's alleged terrorist activities. Of course, all intelligence agencies, including our own CIA, have done some very shady things.
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No on "floor 13" Been playing twilight 2000 again some.
I admit the jewwatch isn't very well resourced on some of it either. Also I don't commit to a global jew conspiracy in the media. More like an observation that any statement in the alternative news can be resourced anymore.Also this is a topic that is difficult to find any realistic non fascist bias materials.
"And I don't really trust Syria to tell the truth on Mossad's alleged terrorist activities. Of course, all intelligence agencies, including our own CIA, have done some very shady things"
Have to agree with you there as well. My real fear is how much worse can it get in the future.
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Prove to me that the United States DOESN'T own Israel and control middle eastern policy, and I will finally concede to your foolish notions, Bradddoggggg.
Until then, give it a break. Oh and uh...you might want to start with the money trail.
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Prove to me that the United States DOESN'T own Israel and control middle eastern policy, and I will finally concede to your foolish notions, Bradddoggggg.
Until then, give it a break. Oh and uh...you might want to start with the money trail.
If the United States controls Israel, why didn't Israel sign a peace accord at Camp David (2000)? Clinton really, really wanted a peace signed. Yes, the United States gives disgusting amounts of aid to Israel, but Israel pretty much does what it wants. I mean, the US has leverage, but not "ownership."
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Then explain the banks. WHO FUNDS Israel? WHO FUNDS the United States?
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Then explain the banks. WHO FUNDS Israel? WHO FUNDS the United States?
Oh, crap, I always forget this one..... Is it the Illuminati? Or is this one the Skull and Bones?
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Just admit that you're a dumbass.
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Prove to me that the United States DOESN'T own Israel and control middle eastern policy, and I will finally concede to your foolish notions, Bradddoggggg.
Until then, give it a break. Oh and uh...you might want to start with the money trail.
If the United States controls Israel, why didn't Israel sign a peace accord at Camp David (2000)? Clinton really, really wanted a peace signed. Yes, the United States gives disgusting amounts of aid to Israel, but Israel pretty much does what it wants. I mean, the US has leverage, but not "ownership."
Wow, there are so many anti-Israel anti-Jewish people who believe all this crap.
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Wow, there are so many anti-Israel anti-Jewish people who believe all this crap.
To which crap were you referring? Also, anti-Israel does not equal anti-Jewish. There are many Jews, notably the ultra-Orthodox and the ultra-secularists, who are anti-state-of-Israel. It's important to distinguish between Jews as an ethnicity and Israel as a political entity.
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I've always said that when the extremes of two opposing sides agree, they're usually on to something (opposing the Iraq war, against the WTO/FTAA, etc.)
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Wow, there are so many anti-Israel anti-Jewish people who believe all this crap.
this may help... http://www.nkusa.org/index.cfm