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[MobileDigit]

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[Brian Wolf]

Weed does nothing for me but make me feel like I have helium in my chest. I've never really thought weed was anything special... I've had it many times, but never thought it was all that so many of the potheads I know think it's cracked up to be.  I get a strong physical affect, but very little in the way of any sort of mind altering... It just makes me feel a little slower. (than usual, like I need to be any slower)

Your friends must be getting some cheap, ditchweed, or some low grade commercial. If you have ever had good weed, you would know the difference. The thing about weed is, that the quality of the high varies greatly, depending on the plant.

LSD... THAT's a drug that does something. 1. it's good

YES!!

2. it's really bad for you, which brings us 3. it's definitely worth avoiding

NO!! Filth, the fact is that PURE LSD on its own will not harm you. In fact, contrary to all of the overblown urban legends about it, you can NOT overdose on PURE LSD. That being said, Its almost imposssible to get pure LSD, and a lot of what some people use to "CUT" the dose with (i.e. rat poison) is very, very harmful to your body and is definitly worth avoiding.

Acid is one of those drugs that'll change you.

I agree with this as well, but probably not in the way that you mean. From the above paragraph, you may think that I am just splitting hairs, but I am not. Pure LSD can be a very beneficial drug when taken under the right circumstances. For instance, a lot of psychiatrists and patients have reported huge succcess when therapy is done while "tripping".
Also, as you pointed out, it is fun. I think people should only try it though if they know all the facts about it, and are very careful. For example, never buy from somone you don' t trust, or from soneone who hasn't taken it themselves.

Caffiene... is my drug of choice

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I hate to say this, but Caffiene is worse than weed or LSD, alcohol and Cigarettes are probably a little worse.
The funny thing is, none of these things are bad for you in MODERATION, but we are encouraged to overindugle in our society.

[Johnson]

I don't know about you comments about not being able to overdose on pure lsd... sounds like 100% bullshit to me.

but, at any rate, I was talking about LSD being bad BECAUSE it changes your brain chemistry and thus affects who you are as a person. This is something that psychiatrists have been able to use.

As far as the quality of the marijuana...

I have experience a variety... from weak to very strong. I have also smoked with some farily experienced smokers who have gotta high very quickly...

The only difference in affect for me is the intensity of the feelings I decribed earlier... It just wan't something I found all the great. Some people like that apparently... some people like crack.. some people like huffing glue... everyone is different and has different opinions of what feels good.

[Johnson]

Ya know what narcotic I enjoy most?

The pusseh!

[bonerjoe]

Ack! New avatar from heck!

[Johnson]

they started making dune references in the evolution thread 

[Brian Wolf]

I don't know about you comments about not being able to overdose on pure lsd... sounds like 100% bullshit to me.

From Erowid.org http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_faq.shtml#myths
DANGERS:
Purely psychological hazards, not harmful to body. May release latent psychosis or exacerbate depression, leading to irrational behavior. There is also a danger of foolish or incautious behavior, e.g, misjudging distances or thinking one can fly. Physical overdose is not a hazard, though one may easily ingest more than one may be able to handle psychologically.
Because the "LSD psychosis" is not distinguishable from non-drug-induced psychosis, we have reasonable evidence to conclude that LSD was not the sole cause of psychosis. Instead, it would seem that the drug brought on the problems in vulnerable individuals. Interestingly, the rate of parental alcoholism was found to be much higher in LSD patients than in other patients or in the general population by one study (Vardy and Kay, Arch-Gen-Psych, 1983 40(: 877-83).
Lethal (toxic) doses of LSD are conservatively several tens of thousands of times as much as a normal dose, making it (in the toxic sense) one of the safest drugs known.

but, at any rate, I was talking about LSD being bad BECAUSE it changes your brain chemistry and thus affects who you are as a person. This is something that psychiatrists have been able to use.

I agree that it is a life changing experience, and that it can open certain doors that otherwise might be closed to you, but I have read no evidence that it 'changes your brain chemistry'.

As far as the quality of the marijuana...
I have experience a variety... everyone is different and has different opinions of what feels good.

This is true.

[Johnson]

Physical overdose, meaning it won't kill you... but if it causes terminal psychosis... I call that "bad for you"

I guess the semantics of that may get lost in your translation...

[Brian Wolf]

Physical overdose, meaning it won't kill you... but if it causes terminal psychosis... I call that "bad for you"

I guess the semantics of that may get lost in your translation...

I am trying to find in my post where it said that it would cause Terminal psychosis. It says that it MAY  "release latent psychosis or exacerbate depression, leading to irrational behavior."
Thats a far cry from the permenant brain damage that you were suggegsting.

[Johnson]

I didn't say permanent brain damage... I said terminal psychosis

[Brian Wolf]

I didn't say permanent brain damage... I said terminal psychosis

It won't kill you either.
Look, DONT DO ACID, I don't care. I was just pointing out that you seemed to have a few misconceptions about it and I thought that you might like to know the truth. If you want' to remain ignorant, feel free.
As for everyone else, If don't have and latent psychological problems, and you can do it with people you can trust who know what they are doing, I would suggest trying it at least once..but find out the whole truth about it first.
errowid.org is a great site, take advantage of it.

[Russ84]

I didn't say permanent brain damage... I said terminal psychosis

It won't kill you either.
Look, DONT DO ACID, I don't care. I was just pointing out that you seemed to have a few misconceptions about it and I thought that you might like to know the truth. If you want' to remain ignorant, feel free.
As for everyone else, If don't have and latent psychological problems, and you can do it with people you can trust who know what they are doing, I would suggest trying it at least once..but find out the whole truth about it first.
errowid.org is a great site, take advantage of it.

That's one r in erowid. http://www.erowid.org/
Brian is right; stay the fuck away from Acid. I knew a kid that died from it.  He didn't make the prettiest face when he died either, and he shit himself.

[Johnson]

Brian is talking out his ass. He didn't even spell erowid correctly.

I've been using erowid for YEARS, as I'm one of those boring people that finds psychology interesting.

You're friend didn't die FROM acid. He died from either something it was cut with... or by doing something stupid, like believing he could fly and jumping off a building...

You cannot DIE from an overabundance of a pseudoseratonin in your brain.

However... you can be made to not THINK correctly... ever ... again.

Therefore I will concur with recommending people stay away from acid.

[Brian Wolf]

Brian is talking out his ass. He didn't even spell erowid correctly.
I've been using erowid for YEARS, as I'm one of those boring people that finds psychology interesting.
You're friend didn't die FROM acid. He died from either something it was cut with... or by doing something stupid, like believing he could fly and jumping off a building...
You cannot DIE from an overabundance of a pseudoseratonin in your brain.
However... you can be made to not THINK correctly... ever ... again.
Therefore I will concur with recommending people stay away from acid.

Believe whatever you want to.
I made a spelling error so sue me.
Let’s see, because you “finds” psychology interesting, I must have no 'interest' in it at all, is that it?

You're friend didn't die FROM acid. He died from either something it was cut with... or by doing something stupid, like believing he could fly and jumping off a building...

This is what I have been saying. You have said

I don't know about you comments about not being able to overdose on pure lsd... sounds like 100% bullshit to me.

Notice the spelling error there? I think you probably meant to say your comments, and not you comments.
I added an extra r and you left one out. Ironic isn't it?

You cannot DIE from an overabundance of a pseudoseratonin in your brain.

What is pseudoseratonin?

I am truly sorry for Russ's friend, but as you correctly pointed out it was most likely a result of something that it was cut with, or a pre-existing mental condition.
I didn't say that LSD was candy, and that everyone should just go out and do a sheet did I?
I have personally done LSD over 20 times in my life and have never even come close to dying or thinking that I could fly. Not only that but I have also personally ‘tripped’ with over 50 different people, and never once have I ever heard of even one of them who had to so much as go to the hospital because of tripping on Acid.
I am not saying that everyone will have the same experiences; for one thing, I made sure to inform myself about what I was getting into before I tried it, and I made sure to do it with trusted friends who had already taken the very same stuff that I was going to be taking. And I do that EVERY time I do acid.
 With this stupid goddamn war on drugs, it is likely that someone at some point will try to sell you some crap that will kill you, because it is cheaper than doing things the right way. If LSD was decriminalized then it would all be made in clean labs, with sterile equipment, that could ensure the right dosage for everyone and they could administer it in liquid form so that no harmful bonding agents are required.
You don’t have to believe me, I really don’t care, but you don’t have to be such a dick just because I questioned your all mighty wisdom.

[ladyattis]

The bad trips are due to the rat poison not the actual LSD molecule...Also, there's the issue of pre-existing mood disorders, which are also affected by other 'drugs' like alcohol and etc...

-- Bridget