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LRN.FM - The Liberty Radio Network => LRN.FM - The Liberty Radio Network => Topic started by: alaric89 on January 04, 2012, 06:24:09 AM
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http://www.sexliesanarchy.com/ (http://www.sexliesanarchy.com/)
Does anybody else find this show interesting? I guess I like to hear friendly conflict and this particular podcast delivers in spades. I hadn't even downloaded the animal rights episode. I was like, "so what?" but heard it anyway on LRN. They take subjects and really make them interesting.
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Thanks, Alaric! I really appreciate your support of the show. Let us know if there's anything in particular you'd like us to discuss. Same goes for the rest of the world. :P
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My only beef with the SLA gals is that y'all still have not taken up my offer to be guests on NH Capitol Access! :P
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Denis - Let's revisit after Liberty Forum. Maybe Kellie and I can do it then. Candy is in bridezilla mode right now and useless to me. :P
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How about a discussion about treatment of people who follow the NAP but have questionable values, such as, sexist, racist, strict parents, religious fundis who think every one but them is going to hell, homophobes etc.. It is my belief that the following of the NAP is the most important thing for the movement. I think in a free society (FreedomFeens language "LibPar") I would choose to live in a gated community with restrictions on self- righteousness. I believe racist could live in segregated comunities and I wouldn't judge them harshly. Like to hear you girl's take, but it is a toughie.
On this board there seems to be a division between people who want to wait for human evolution to be ready for LibPar and people who want a NAP based LibPar NOW.(Dale mentioned NAPsters which I think is fucking stupid but fine. I am a NAPster)
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http://storeyinstitute.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-libertarians-need-to-talk-to-left.html (http://storeyinstitute.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-libertarians-need-to-talk-to-left.html)
This link also belongs in the "Less Stephanie" thread.
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It is my belief that the following of the NAP is the most important thing for the movement.
It's the most important thing, period. It's at the foundation of a society that can coexist despite inevitable disagreements.
But the argument you seem to be making is that it's ALL that matters, that once that is done, then all the disagreements become irrelevant. We don't live in a society that respects the NAP, and most of those things you described are the myriad of excuses people use to justify violating the NAP. Getting to a place where people do respect the NAP is going to take elevating their critical thinking skills and letting go of beliefs that are only there because they've been indoctrinated into them. Statism is only one such belief. Many religions and the associated beliefs that go with them fall into the same realm of nonsense as statism. The evolution that needs to happen to get our society to be peaceful is going to involve all of that stuph.
But the other thing that you seem to be leaving out is when I address all these other beliefs that I have a beef with, I'm not violating the NAP either! So what's the problem? There seems to be this notion that I, while totally trying my darnedest in a thoroughly statist world to abide by the NAP, should shut up about the beliefs that others have that I sincerely think are irrational and part of the same mental processes that keep them from questioning things simply because that's how they've always believed.
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That link has it's own thread actually. I like the Neema on freedomfeens interview better though and it covers the same thing.
It takes a generation to evolve, you are working on changing minds Dale and that is well and good, I don't care that much, sorry. Oversensitivity and self- righteousness bug the hell out of me more then racism even when directed at me. I was very specific about following the NAP, they start using their beliefs as a excuse they are not the people I am referring to. There are plenty of homophobes who do not initiate violence on gays. There are plenty of racists who just avoid those they hate, it is those people I am talking about.
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There are plenty of homophobes who do not initiate violence on gays. There are plenty of racists who just avoid those they hate, it is those people I am talking about.
Well, sure. And those types are far and away better than hateful people willing to use violence. Their hatred still fuels violent movements though. That's why I think we always layout the framework that the NAP is the foundation and always needs to be key. We can have differences as long as we don't resort to violence over them.
It's like, we've laid out the ground rules so we can actually have intelligent discussions instead of fighting over the things we disagree on. Now let's have those discussions.
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It's like, we've laid out the ground rules so we can actually have intelligent discussions instead of fighting over the things we disagree on. Now let's have those discussions.
Yup.
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Dale, that's actually what the show is all about! We don't argue about libertarianism or the NAP being right or wrong. We got that. Now, in a stateless society - what do we do? These are the most interesting of conversations.
Alaric - we were actually planning a show on ostracism as a panacea to libertarian problems. I think your question fits in nicely. Thanks for the input!
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Alaric - we were actually planning a show on ostracism as a panacea to libertarian problems. I think your question fits in nicely. Thanks for the input!
I couldn't agree more.
http://storeyinstitute.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-libertarians-need-to-talk-to-left.html (http://storeyinstitute.blogspot.com/2012/01/why-libertarians-need-to-talk-to-left.html)
This link also belongs in the "Less Stephanie" thread.
Is that thread still going on? :P
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Is that thread still going on? :P
Read up on it. I think you'll find it entertaining.
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Here's the episode on ostracism, if y'all are interested.
http://sexliesanarchy.com/2012/02/10/episode-36---ostracism,-the-bull-crap-panacea/ (http://sexliesanarchy.com/2012/02/10/episode-36---ostracism,-the-bull-crap-panacea/)
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http://www.sexliesandanarchy.com/2012/03/09/episode-39---the-fear-of-aging/ (http://www.sexliesandanarchy.com/2012/03/09/episode-39---the-fear-of-aging/)
3 Beautiful 30 year old women talking about aging and putting a positive spin on it.
How cute.
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I found episode 39 amusing and entertaining.
As they discussed getting older i kept thinking "Child, your BRAIN is not completely formed until you are 25."
And further on it I was thinking "youth is wasted on the young".
Good show.
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And further on it I was thinking "youth is wasted on the young".
That's mostly from stuffy old people telling young people to spend all their time preparing for the future.
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Candy was sharp as a pin and spot on in that age podcast. Usually she scares the hell out of me. I think people waiting too long to have kids is a bit off myself. At my daughters kindergarden I am far from the oldest parent there. I have stretched the parenting role to almost Hollywood levels. Had my first child at 24 and my latest at 40. I will be caring for kids for a total of 34 years if I don't die before I am 58. I think my parents were smarter who had three kids and were done when they were only 45. Now they pretty much do whatever they hell they want but they really busted their asses from 20 to 30.
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Candy was sharp as a pin and spot on in that age podcast. Usually she scares the hell out of me.
4 rlz? When was Candy scary?
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She has a Ted Bundy fetish ish WTF thing going. Her description of how she will raise her sons also frightened me. I assume she is kidding but.....
Her take on psychedelics and psychiatry raised my eyebrows as well.
I love all three of the girls. you know I am only kidding, right?
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I think having 18 kids for me would be about perfect.
Just kidding.
But two would be nice. You know, for redundant backup.
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Candy mentioned wanting kids someday as well. Good to hear libertarians wanting kids actually. I get a little bummed sometimes when most of the FTL universe saying "no kids for me" all the time.
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FTL are representative of a vary particular faction of FSPers.
Go to any non-FTL FSP function. It feels like the Romper Room project.
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Having been out of the Keene area and in Manch since November, I'm missing it.
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Cuz, honestly, there's nothing worse than listening to people like Denis bitch and moan about Keene all day.
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And further on it I was thinking "youth is wasted on the young".
That's mostly from stuffy old people telling young people to spend all their time preparing for the future.
No Dale. It's more like "you have youth, energy, and opportunity NOW. Enjoy it. Revel in it. Use it. Before it's too late."
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No Dale. It's more like "you have youth, energy, and opportunity NOW. Enjoy it. Revel in it. Use it. Before it's too late."
Just to clarify, I'm not calling the people who say that stuffy. They're the wiser ones. I'm saying the reason youth is wasted on the young in the first place is because there are stuffy old(er) people over-selling the idea that they should spend all their time preparing for the future, and at the same time telling them all the things that are supposed to make them happy, i.e. telling them how to prepare for the future, like go to college, get married, buy a home, have kids, invest in a 401k, etc.
Then next thing you know, their youth is gone and here comes mid-life crisis. I was an INFP so I had my mid-life crisis at about 21.
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http://static.sexliesandanarchy.com/shows/SLA_Episode_040_FreakStateProject.mp3 (http://static.sexliesandanarchy.com/shows/SLA_Episode_040_FreakStateProject.mp3)http://
I wonder if Antigone was yelling at me specifically at the end of the podcast.
Geeze I love the perspective these girls give to stuff. I learned a lot in this one.
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No, Alaric, the world does not revolve around YOU. It's been a reoccurring theme. :P
We talked about you on today's P&tG btw. Both shows are glad to have Norwegian fans! I thought it was a drunken trainwreck, but the boys liked it. ;)
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Uh oh.....
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If Antigone was more insane this time then last on P&TG that will be a awesome show.
Any libertarians who get into a lot of tiffs on abortion should listen to the open minded episode.
They do not agree, they have a civil conversation.
I have never heard a civil argument about abortion before.
Ref: The Zombie episode- If I am in New Hampshire a few years down the road and I meet a little blond boy named Cornelius I will give him a pile of Die Hard and old Schwarzenegger DVDs and try and get him interested in Motorcross.
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Insane? Do you mean that I was sober in the same room as those three drunk assholes? I did not make that same mistake this time. http://www.pukeandthegang.com/blog/files/podcast_41.mp3 (http://www.pukeandthegang.com/blog/files/podcast_41.mp3)
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I like Sex.\
Lies - I DON'T like at all.....
Anarchy- depends doesn't it?
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The lies start early and must be waded through...
Do you know what separated a minarchist from an anarchist, Fred?
6 months!
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You guys should check out the last episode. They kind of attack each other and all three talk about themselves in the third person. It is hilarious.
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http://nhcaptv.com/episode/216 (http://nhcaptv.com/episode/216)
The girls on a TV show.
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http://static.sexliesandanarchy.com/shows/SLA_Episode_052_Friends.mp3 (http://static.sexliesandanarchy.com/shows/SLA_Episode_052_Friends.mp3)
This episode is more about who to trust and why in my opinion. They touch on ostracism. Very good episode in need of a sequel, I felt it ended before it was about to get really meaty.