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Title: Pot
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 21, 2011, 12:45:37 AM
Burn some. 
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: anarchir on October 21, 2011, 01:05:43 AM
If its burning then you have the temperature too high or not enough liquid in there. Perhaps stir more often?


































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Title: Re: Pot
Post by: FTL_Ian on October 21, 2011, 01:42:33 AM
Burn some. 

Or vaporize. 
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: One two three on October 21, 2011, 01:45:44 AM
For the first time ever Gallup says that 50% to 46% of folks support legalize pot.  Of course, the federal government has never been more aggressive to destroy pot and everyone involved with it in any way.  On the other hand, state governments (overall) have never had a more hands off approach (well, not in at least 50 years or so.)
http://www.gallup.com/poll/150149/record-high-americans-favor-legalizing-marijuana.aspx
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 21, 2011, 02:19:05 AM
Burn some. 

Or vaporize. 

True.  More healthier.

I advocate healthful pot smoking.

Harm reduction.



Title: Re: Pot
Post by: SonicThePorcupine on October 21, 2011, 12:20:01 PM
butt i dun hab anny :(
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: MichaelWDean on October 23, 2011, 01:35:51 AM
 On the other hand, state governments (overall) have never had a more hands off approach (well, not in at least 50 years or so.)


Except my state. Wyoming recently passed a law to clarify that out-of-state medical marijuana permits would NOT be honored here. Even if you're dying a slow, painful death.

The same week they passed a law that no permit is needed for concealed carry of a pistol.

Republicans are as weird and fucked up as Democrats, but in different areas.

I don't smoke pot and I do carry a pistol. But as someone who watched his daughter get some relief from smoking pot while she died of cancer, pot laws drive me fucking furious.

MWD
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: anarchir on October 25, 2011, 01:55:44 AM

Of course, I don't advocate violence to solve this "problem".

Very good of you sir!
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 25, 2011, 04:58:24 AM
Before smoking pot, consult your local law enforcement.  It may be illegal.

Title: Re: Pot
Post by: alaric89 on October 25, 2011, 10:47:37 AM
 On the other hand, state governments (overall) have never had a more hands off approach (well, not in at least 50 years or so.)


Except my state. Wyoming recently passed a law to clarify that out-of-state medical marijuana permits would NOT be honored here. Even if you're dying a slow, painful death.

The same week they passed a law that no permit is needed for concealed carry of a pistol.

Republicans are as weird and fucked up as Democrats, but in different areas.

I don't smoke pot and I do carry a pistol. But as someone who watched his daughter get some relief from smoking pot while she died of cancer, pot laws drive me fucking furious.

MWD
Interesting how you and your partner left any personnel stories out of Guns & Weed. To your credit. I think any other pro-something documentarian would have tried to use something like that. The appeal that I got from the movie was how it stuck with a commen sense argument and didn't cheat. When I showed it to my coworkers (we watch youtube videos during lunch) the strongest reaction was when that old man declared "as long as you don't affect anything across this fence it is none of my business" (paraphrasing) almost everyone in the room nodded. I thought the hot chick with the gun would get the best reaction so I was surprised.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on October 26, 2011, 06:38:55 PM
Burn some. 

Or vaporize. 

Or bake.  Sugar cookies with cinnamon on top work quite nicely (brownies get hard and nasty too quickly.)
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Fred on October 26, 2011, 07:03:47 PM
Sounds damn good!
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Turd Ferguson on October 26, 2011, 08:25:05 PM
I just put a big fat wad of it between my cheek and gums and chew on it all day.


But then again, im pretty much a hardass.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Fred on October 26, 2011, 08:41:58 PM
Doesn't work like that.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Turd Ferguson on October 26, 2011, 08:48:07 PM
Doesn't work like that.

You ever eat weed?

Try it sometime and get back to me with the results.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on October 26, 2011, 10:51:39 PM
Doesn't work like that.

You ever eat weed?

Try it sometime and get back to me with the results.

Doesn't do anything.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Turd Ferguson on October 26, 2011, 11:30:11 PM
Doesn't work like that.

You ever eat weed?

Try it sometime and get back to me with the results.

Doesn't do anything.
yeah it does. It just takes alot more of it to get the same effect as opposed to putting it in brownies or something that gets heated up to release the chemicals....... trust me... if you eat enough, you will feel it. Waste of bud....... yes, but you can get high eating it.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on October 27, 2011, 01:36:20 AM
I think you'll find it irritates your stomach something fierce.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Turd Ferguson on October 27, 2011, 01:45:21 AM
I think you'll find it irritates your stomach something fierce.

Oh yeah, a friend of a friend ate almost a quarter bag to get rid of the evidence when the cops showed up at a party. He wasn't pleased. Mostly because he ate/wasted a quarter bag and they didn't even search anything, just looked around and told everyone to keep it down a bit then left. It wasn't projectile vomiting or anything, just a dull ache that made him queasy.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 30, 2011, 03:20:37 AM
You don't want to eat dope. 


The reason pot has a psychotropic effect is actually to prevent animals from eating it. 



Title: Re: Pot
Post by: MichaelWDean on November 02, 2011, 05:51:01 PM

Interesting how you and your partner left any personnel stories out of Guns & Weed.

It's something I learned from Hubert Selby Jr when I was doing this documentary about him
http://www.cubbymovie.com (http://www.cubbymovie.com)
, about keeping the ego and the self out of the art.

We are in the movie though, but basically because there aren't a lot of actors in Wyoming. Neema is in it rapping and being the newscaster, and I'm the bad cop, Dan Banning, and the guy hiding in the closet with the gun calling the cops on himself.

We talk about personal stories in interviews elsewhere. For instance, the reason I'm a pot activist even though I don't smoke pot is that my daughter died of cancer and broke the law to get some comfort from pot before she died. The thought that someone could put her in a cage for that infuriated me.

We talk a lot about our motivations for making the film, and tell some more personal stories, in this interview with Claire Wolfe:
http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/ClaireWolfe/2010/12/31/guns-and-weed-the-interview-part-i/ (http://www.backwoodshome.com/blogs/ClaireWolfe/2010/12/31/guns-and-weed-the-interview-part-i/)


MWD
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: FTL_Ian on November 25, 2011, 03:53:12 AM
I'm amazed by this thread's posts.  The highest I've ever been on pot is when I've eaten it.

If you aren't getting high you are doing it wrong or not being patient enough and waiting from 1-4 hours for it to work.

The claim that it takes more pot to get high from eating it is somewhat bunk.  I've had some kick-ass cookies from pot that had already been vaporized (albeit a lot of it) as well as cookies that were great and made with regs-to-mids.  No need to put the high-grade stuff in food because you are getting all the THC via your stomach.

The claim that you have to heat pot to get high from eating it (like via making butter with it) is bunk.  I have ground up pot in a coffee grinder and put it in standard size gelcaps.  Take 2-4 caps and I am high as a kite.

Title: Re: Pot
Post by: sillyperson on November 25, 2011, 07:56:57 AM
In college, at one point (I think it was over New Year's break) I had an assload of dope cookies. By an assload, I mean, like 50 high-potency cookies. All the campus food services at which I could have used my meal card were closed, and I had little-or-no money to buy food - just enough for enough Raman Noodles and Bragg's Liquid Protein to allow me to survive.

But I did have cookies. So I ate them. And got munchies. So I ate cookies. Lather, rinse, repeat till I'm literally feeling as tripped out as if I'd done a hit or two of acid. Really wigging.

Then my friend comes over with his massive water bong and some pot.

Hilarity ensues.

That evening I had dinner with the family. Still wigging. They never knew. You learn how to play it cool, being a psychonaut.
Veteran of the Psychic Wars - Blue Oyster Cult (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrd2xf5DIlU#)
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on November 25, 2011, 11:45:06 AM
I'm amazed by this thread's posts.  The highest I've ever been on pot is when I've eaten it.

If you aren't getting high you are doing it wrong or not being patient enough and waiting from 1-4 hours for it to work.

The claim that it takes more pot to get high from eating it is somewhat bunk.  I've had some kick-ass cookies from pot that had already been vaporized (albeit a lot of it) as well as cookies that were great and made with regs-to-mids.  No need to put the high-grade stuff in food because you are getting all the THC via your stomach.

The claim that you have to heat pot to get high from eating it (like via making butter with it) is bunk.  I have ground up pot in a coffee grinder and put it in standard size gelcaps.  Take 2-4 caps and I am high as a kite.

It's interesting you say that.  I make butter from my trim, and use the butter to make sugar cookies.  The sugar cookies are my most useful and common medication.  I occasionally vaporize bud and also throw the remains from that in my butter, when I make it.  I probably shouldn't, but I also throw in the kief from grinding bud and from my trim box (I use a box with a silk screen and a mirror.)

As for the gelcaps, I tried putting coconut oil in them, and didn't like it at all, plus it was a PITA to fill them.  I processed the oil sorta like butter, and it worked well for brownies, which don't keep well, so I don't make them any more, whereas sugar cookies last weeks and weeks in tupperware.  As for raw (and, actually, the oil in gelcaps) I found they irritated my stomach.  The gelcaps were a PITA to process, too.  I positively hated tea.  Tasted gross.

As for baked versus vaped, I've found that baked is a better body effect (and it's about the pain, for me) while vaping is more psychoactive.  I find it worthwhile to vape recreationally on occasion (shocker), but also when I need to take the edge off quickly, fearing my pain will get really bad while I'm waiting for cookies to kick in.  As for baked time effects, I'd say it's usually noticeable by one hour, if you look for the signs, and peaks in about two.  It's after two hours that I usually re-dose, typically at about half the strength of the initial dose.  I have felt profound (pain reduction) effects in as little as 30 minutes, though.  Probably has to do with what the digestive system is up to; for example, if I hadn't eaten anything else then have a meal, I often start feeling it in the middle of my meal.  Vaping, on the other hand, I can use if I take a fairly long lunch and want a relatively clear head after.  It can (counterintuitively) enable me to think so I can get my work done, and of course, the psychoactive effects go away more quickly.  Another side note, the psychoactive effects seem to be be inverse to the amount of pain I have, meaning if I'm really in bad pain, the psychoactive effects are practically not noticeable.  I'd say this is because the pain is debilitating, and the lack of it is rehabilitating, so the effect of the "high" is minor in comparison to great pain (for those unaware, the greatest pain usually get involves something like cluster headaches, and often nausea, which is why thinking is greatly impacted by the pain.)

I've never really paid much attention to comparing the quantity used in the processes, but I'd say both vaping and cooking are more frugal than smoking, from the experiences of others, and the fact that I don't really use much, but use it fairly often.  I think I could grow one plant a year in a libertarian environment (I.E., outside, during growing season) and have more than enough for myself--probably just using trim, for that matter.  

It blows me away how inexpensive, and fairly easy, that would be.  Of course, if it were completely legal, you could probably go to the equipment rental store to rent a trimmer cheaply, and cut down on the really crappy work.  As inexpensive as the plant would be, you wouldn't be hypersensitive about the waste that comes with that sort of method, either (not to mention, it's all just more trim, with which I make my butter.)
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 25, 2011, 10:30:43 PM
I'm amazed by this thread's posts.  The highest I've ever been on pot is when I've eaten it.

I tried telling em, Ian, but they wouldn't listen.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Bill Brasky on November 28, 2011, 02:37:58 AM

I'm not reading all that shit.

You can cook pot, eat it, and get high.

But I do not recommend eating uncooked pot.

Anybody who eats uncooked pot is stupid, gram for gram. 

If you have one gram of pot, smoke the fuckin shit.

I could catch a nice buzz a half-dozen times off a gram of good pot.

If you're eating pot like a reard - by all means, continue. 



Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 28, 2011, 03:43:40 AM
Yeah, eating pot straight up is a waste, no doubt. I was refering to my earlier comment where I jokingly said "I just put a big fat wad of it between my cheek and gums and chew on it all day. But then again, im pretty much a hardass.", and someone commented, saying you "cant" get high eating it, which is bullshit, you most definitely can.

No question though, just throwing a bud into your mouth and chewing on it wouldn't be something I would recommend.
Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Bill Brasky on November 28, 2011, 06:21:03 AM

I used to have a real big fish tank, and it had albino frogs in it.

If you've ever seen an albino frog eat a pellet, thats what this thread reminds me of.



Title: Re: Pot
Post by: Turd Ferguson on November 28, 2011, 10:08:58 AM
lol