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Title: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on May 14, 2010, 09:35:05 PM
Hope you'll share some of your own.

Lawn mower to generator conversion (http://www.theepicenter.com/tow082099.html)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 15, 2010, 12:43:46 PM
i want someone here to show us how to make a still.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 15, 2010, 02:23:26 PM
i want someone here to show us how to make a still.
I only make wine but I know people who moonshine
You need sats, super cheap terrible tasting wine. Something like 12 kg sugar little flower or malt 6 packets yeast around 25 liters water. I recommend a bubble check valve but most Norwegians just put a cover over most of the bucket with a lid to allow a small pressure out.
Most wait about a week before cooking.
To separate out the alcohol they usually use a homemade stainless steel "hjemmebrennaperat" or still which uses a heat source to warm up the sats just warm enough to boil out the alcohol (78 degrees Celsius). A collecting system mounted over a sealed boiler usually using water from a sink to cool it( If the cooling system stops working the room is filled with alcohol gas and the room can be explosive). After the alcohol is collected they run it though a coal filtering process and water it down to 40% usually.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BobRobertson on May 15, 2010, 02:36:07 PM
Most wait about a week before cooking.

I made some nice mead, it took longer than that to ferment. Interesting.

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just warm enough to boil out the alcohol (78 degrees Celsius).

Ah, one of those important datapoints. Thank you.

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After the alcohol is collected they run it though a coal filtering process and water it down to 40% usually.

I hope you mean charcoal, coal is pretty nasty stuff. Of course, it would impart an unique taste.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 15, 2010, 02:48:17 PM
I have only assisted..... I tried to give what little I knew..... I looked up 78 degrees on a Norwegian websight .....I don't actually know shit...... I Fucking tried to stick a disclaimer in the start...... I'm sorry, wahhhh.
No, :) I do make wine though. And I have done some welding on other peoples "water distilling machines". But that's it. In Norway though, a lot of people do make their own moonshine. they call charcoal- "cl" and you can buy it at the same place they sell wine making equipment here.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 15, 2010, 02:56:32 PM
Hope you'll share some of your own.

Lawn mower to generator conversion (http://www.theepicenter.com/tow082099.html)

uh, Mr. Billy I can't get your link to work. My browser says it is forbidden is it working for anyone else?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: anarchir on May 15, 2010, 03:28:04 PM
Hope you'll share some of your own.

Lawn mower to generator conversion (http://www.theepicenter.com/tow082099.html)

uh, Mr. Billy I can't get your link to work. My browser says it is forbidden is it working for anyone else?
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http://www.theepicenter.com/tow082099.html
Many of our visitors and customers have read our Tip ODa Week episodes discussing the homemade generator made from a horizontal shaft engine and a car alternator. Now build a generator with a lawn mower engine!

As you might remember, our first generator was built using a horizontal shaft engine.  After many attempts, we have successfully completed the construction of a generator using a common lawn mower engine, the type that is sitting in your back yard right now.

(http://www.theepicenter.com/giffiles/tipoweek/lsystem.gif)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BobRobertson on May 15, 2010, 08:23:39 PM
In Norway though, a lot of people do make their own moonshine.

The insanity of prohibition is demonstrated again.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 16, 2010, 05:09:59 AM
In Norway though, a lot of people do make their own moonshine.

The insanity of prohibition is demonstrated again.
In this case ridiculously high sin tax. Many have died or went blind from bad smuggled wood alcohol as well.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: libertylover on May 16, 2010, 05:39:10 AM
i want someone here to show us how to make a still.

You don't need a still to make some very potent alcohol that is if you only want something to drink.  Look up rice and raisin wine.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 16, 2010, 08:07:51 AM
i want someone here to show us how to make a still.

You don't need a still to make some very potent alcohol that is if you only want something to drink.  Look up rice and raisin wine.


bitch, i ain't talkn' bout prison-hooch here
what the fuck, you just get out of joliet?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: davann on May 17, 2010, 07:20:07 PM
Always have a solid fire starter.

http://www.campingsurvival.com/aufistflstan.html
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BobRobertson on May 17, 2010, 07:24:17 PM
In this case ridiculously high sin tax. Many have died or went blind from bad smuggled wood alcohol as well.

I believe it "should" be possible to make some dip-tabs, like the doctor uses to test for sugar in urine, that could be dipped in wine/whisky/beer to turn black in the presence of wood alcohol, even to turn green if all there is is ethyl alcohol.

Wouldn't that be a wonderful thing? Maybe I should look into contracting with a chemical company to make some of them.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on May 17, 2010, 11:35:23 PM
I have a treadle generator, a puny 10 watt solar panel, and a giant Xantrex battery.

I'll have my porn when society collapses. Or when I snap and go Richard Proenneke.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Lothar on May 18, 2010, 01:20:36 AM
Anyone know anything about Lister generators?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 18, 2010, 04:59:33 AM
In this case ridiculously high sin tax. Many have died or went blind from bad smuggled wood alcohol as well.

I believe it "should" be possible to make some dip-tabs, like the doctor uses to test for sugar in urine, that could be dipped in wine/whisky/beer to turn black in the presence of wood alcohol, even to turn green if all there is is ethyl alcohol.

Wouldn't that be a wonderful thing? Maybe I should look into contracting with a chemical company to make some of them.

That is brilliant. But some industrial cleanser alcohols, at least here, are "drinkable" that is the reason such swatches are hard to come by. Sounds like a sweet agorist patent though, I could move those.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: mikehz on May 18, 2010, 08:40:40 AM
From what I recall, bootleggers intentionally added wood alcohol to their product in order to increase the volume and to provide a more ginny taste to it. Sort of like drug sellers will often cut their product with everything from talcum powder to chalk to their stuff.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on May 18, 2010, 08:08:14 PM
Right.

So does anyone have any "off the grid tips and tricks" unrelated to being slaves to poison?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: The Green Bastard on May 18, 2010, 09:06:08 PM
Right.

So does anyone have any "off the grid tips and tricks" unrelated to being slaves to poison?

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Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: ForumTroll on May 18, 2010, 09:07:04 PM
Right.

So does anyone have any "off the grid tips and tricks" unrelated to being slaves to poison?

(http://www.gadgetking.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/BaconInACan_BF97/image.png)

You'd die of a heart attack before you even finished that case.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on May 18, 2010, 10:08:53 PM
Also, if you REALLY want to be safe when the shit hits the fan, buy one of these http://www.missilebases.com/
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: ForumTroll on May 18, 2010, 10:12:34 PM
Also, if you REALLY want to be safe when the shit hits the fan, buy one of these http://www.missilebases.com/

The problem is...eventually you run out of fuel for the generator(s). Without climate control/ventilation and pumping the ground water out, they quickly become uninhabitable.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 19, 2010, 12:51:33 AM
http://fieldlines.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=eeef4fbc3ecaff210ea4e52e9d46a5ed& (http://fieldlines.com/board/index.php?PHPSESSID=eeef4fbc3ecaff210ea4e52e9d46a5ed&)
You may find that chat room helpful Timelady
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 19, 2010, 07:13:53 AM
Also, if you REALLY want to be safe when the shit hits the fan, buy one of these http://www.missilebases.com/

The problem is...eventually you run out of fuel for the generator(s). Without climate control/ventilation and pumping the ground water out, they quickly become uninhabitable.


back to the 'ol wood alcohol subject
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on May 19, 2010, 09:53:03 AM
Also, if you REALLY want to be safe when the shit hits the fan, buy one of these http://www.missilebases.com/

The problem is...eventually you run out of fuel for the generator(s). Without climate control/ventilation and pumping the ground water out, they quickly become uninhabitable.

there are those out there that don't need constant sump pumping.

plus, you can grow your own fuel up top. biodiesel ftw!
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Santiago Johimbe on May 19, 2010, 06:02:25 PM
I learned that you can't power two space heaters in a travel trailer from a 14ga extension cord.
But, that's not really -off- the grid, is it.

I had a nice fireplace for a few seconds. Fortunately, my Dad made me carry a fire extinguisher with me.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 19, 2010, 08:38:01 PM
I learned that you can't power two space heaters in a travel trailer from a 14ga extension cord.
But, that's not really -off- the grid, is it.

I had a nice fireplace for a few seconds. Fortunately, my Dad made me carry a fire extinguisher with me.



jesus christ.
are you one-a-those people that runs a generator IN his basement when the power goes out?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on May 19, 2010, 10:13:02 PM
I learned that you can't power two space heaters in a travel trailer from a 14ga extension cord.
But, that's not really -off- the grid, is it.

I had a nice fireplace for a few seconds. Fortunately, my Dad made me carry a fire extinguisher with me.



jesus christ.
are you one-a-those people that runs a generator IN his basement when the power goes out?

and that's the stuff of darwin awards.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: The Green Bastard on May 19, 2010, 11:07:38 PM
I may or may have not built a tea kettle still as a quick science project. You know, for kids.

I would "SERIOUSLY" not recommend using your propane kitchen stove as a heat source. I may or may have not engulfed half of my kitchen (including myself) in a big blue flame ball for a fraction of a second.

No permanent damage but I may or may have not left an odd yeast and burnt hair smell in the house for a couple weeks.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on May 19, 2010, 11:14:28 PM
I may or may have not built a tea kettle still as a quick science project. You know, for kids.

I would "SERIOUSLY" not recommend using your propane kitchen stove as a heat source. I may or may have not engulfed half of my kitchen (including myself) in a big blue flame ball for a fraction of a second.

No permanent damage but I may or may have not left an odd yeast and burnt hair smell in the house for a couple weeks.

lol

Truth: my roommate and I were sterilizing home made tattoo needles in our oven in preparation for me to tattoo him. I could have sworn that our pal said "boil them in alcohol in the stove in a baking tray"... what he'd actually said was to boil them in bleach. We heard a poof, opened the oven and a fireball came right on out, much to our shock.

It weren't a smart thing to do.

I haven't built a still... yet.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Terror Australis on May 20, 2010, 04:56:50 AM
I may have seen a beer keg fall off a truck when I was a kid.I may have approached said keg and fiddled with the mechanism that keeps the bung in the keg.Stupidly I may have even picked the keg up and stood over it directly in line of fire of the bung.......

Well 30 years later I have a scar on my forehead.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 20, 2010, 09:06:46 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sqRvUzqDCE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4sqRvUzqDCE)
A easily disposable solution To someone who wants to distill something.
I tried it on some wine on a stove. I got some watered down positive results. Will try again after I get a thermometer.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 20, 2010, 09:03:31 PM
It really doesn't surprise me that this thread is a compendium of how not to make alcohol interspersed with incidents of grievous personal harm. 

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 20, 2010, 09:23:54 PM
It really doesn't surprise me that this thread is a compendium of how not to make alcohol interspersed with incidents of grievous personal harm. 



yes, tis morphed into a ''jackassian'' offshoot, of sorts....
hmmmm, maybe a book or movie in the making.....
shaw???
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 21, 2010, 04:18:32 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu0XnAjd2Tk&playnext_from=TL&videos=B5H2Wdcjvac&feature=sub (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yu0XnAjd2Tk&playnext_from=TL&videos=B5H2Wdcjvac&feature=sub)
Just to annoy Drifter a little more. Links and LCL report are pertinent.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 21, 2010, 04:47:06 AM

Just to annoy Drifter a little more. Links and LCL report are pertinent.

I'm not annoyed.  Just thinking I know how to build a solar still, water genny, septic system, etc etc. 
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: libertylover on May 21, 2010, 05:49:00 AM
i want someone here to show us how to make a still.
You don't need a still to make some very potent alcohol that is if you only want something to drink.  Look up rice and raisin wine.
bitch, i ain't talkn' bout prison-hooch here
what the fuck, you just get out of joliet?
You really are an ignorant asswipe aren't you.  I was asking a simple question which did not require a hostel assholish response. 
Saki is not prison hooch you moron and rice and raisin wine is a version of saki not a pure one as those only contain koji rice.

Making of alcohol depends on what you want to do with it.  If you want drinking alcohol you don't need to invest the time energy and expense into a still.  Beer making doesn't involve the construction of a still.  If all you wanted was info on make a still, google it dumbass there are plenty of plans and even some sites which will sell a ready made still.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 21, 2010, 07:57:44 AM
i want someone here to show us how to make a still.
You don't need a still to make some very potent alcohol that is if you only want something to drink.  Look up rice and raisin wine.
bitch, i ain't talkn' bout prison-hooch here
what the fuck, you just get out of joliet?
You really are an ignorant asswipe aren't you.  I was asking a simple question which did not require a hostel assholish response. 
Saki is not prison hooch you moron and rice and raisin wine is a version of saki not a pure one as those only contain koji rice.



no joking aroung with this twat, i reckon......
take a chill pill, bitch
also...fyi:
H-O-S-T-I-L-E
not ''hostel'', lest you call someone else dumbass.
also, i don't need a fucking lecture on the makings of beer, or what the fuck ''saki'' is.
know-it-all + cunty= don't mix well.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 21, 2010, 08:29:37 AM

Just to annoy Drifter a little more. Links and LCL report are pertinent.

I'm not annoyed.  Just thinking I know how to build a solar still, water genny, septic system, etc etc. 

How did you controll the temperature on the solar still?
The solar power skeptics always point out the difficulty of moving the power from where it is to where it is needed. I always wondered why they didn't make solar powered ethanol plants in desert environments.
Sounds like it couldn't lose. Use cactus pulp for sats etc.
Two reasons why this doesn't happen I think. The treehugger's hatred of the internal combustion engine, and the draconian anti-still laws.

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: ForumTroll on May 21, 2010, 10:02:28 AM
Also, if you REALLY want to be safe when the shit hits the fan, buy one of these http://www.missilebases.com/

The problem is...eventually you run out of fuel for the generator(s). Without climate control/ventilation and pumping the ground water out, they quickly become uninhabitable.

there are those out there that don't need constant sump pumping.

plus, you can grow your own fuel up top. biodiesel ftw!

Even if it doesn't flood, it's going to be a constant 50-something degrees there year round and humid.

Grow your own fuel? Do you know how much fucking work that is? LOL.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on May 21, 2010, 11:49:01 AM
Also, if you REALLY want to be safe when the shit hits the fan, buy one of these http://www.missilebases.com/

The problem is...eventually you run out of fuel for the generator(s). Without climate control/ventilation and pumping the ground water out, they quickly become uninhabitable.

there are those out there that don't need constant sump pumping.

plus, you can grow your own fuel up top. biodiesel ftw!

Even if it doesn't flood, it's going to be a constant 50-something degrees there year round and humid.

Grow your own fuel? Do you know how much fucking work that is? LOL.

None of that actually bothers me. I like the cool and dank.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 21, 2010, 01:37:37 PM
i bet those weirdo goth-vampire freaks would dig on livin' underground..
pasty-faced motherfuckers
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Ecolitan on May 21, 2010, 04:41:53 PM
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also, i don't need a fucking lecture on the makings of beer, or what the fuck ''saki'' is.
know-it-all + cunty= don't mix well.

 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 21, 2010, 05:34:30 PM

Just to annoy Drifter a little more. Links and LCL report are pertinent.

I'm not annoyed.  Just thinking I know how to build a solar still, water genny, septic system, etc etc. 

How did you controll the temperature on the solar still?
The solar power skeptics always point out the difficulty of moving the power from where it is to where it is needed. I always wondered why they didn't make solar powered ethanol plants in desert environments.
Sounds like it couldn't lose. Use cactus pulp for sats etc.
Two reasons why this doesn't happen I think. The treehugger's hatred of the internal combustion engine, and the draconian anti-still laws.



A solar still extracts moisture from humid air, or green plant material.  Or a damp hole.  Or all three.  It has nothing to do with alcohol. 
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 21, 2010, 05:47:56 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18561_5-ingenious-contraptions-built-out-nothing-but-garbage_p1.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_18561_5-ingenious-contraptions-built-out-nothing-but-garbage_p1.html)
Shall we build a island boys?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 21, 2010, 08:50:45 PM
http://www.cracked.com/article_18561_5-ingenious-contraptions-built-out-nothing-but-garbage_p1.html (http://www.cracked.com/article_18561_5-ingenious-contraptions-built-out-nothing-but-garbage_p1.html)
Shall we build a island boys?

when you put it that way, ...i'd say NO.

apply chickish factor, and i get dibs on mary-ann, then , yes
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 22, 2010, 02:50:59 AM
Goddammit, Dragline I told you, I'm spoken for!

You can have the Movie Star, Mary-Anns mine.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 22, 2010, 09:13:32 AM
Goddammit, Dragline I told you, I'm spoken for!

You can have the Movie Star, Mary-Anns mine.

tina louise was pretty hot, but mary-ann had a ++++hot factor going on
plus, she likes to smoke weed.
remember?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: libertylover on May 22, 2010, 03:19:39 PM
i want someone here to show us how to make a still.
You don't need a still to make some very potent alcohol that is if you only want something to drink.  Look up rice and raisin wine.
bitch, i ain't talkn' bout prison-hooch here
what the fuck, you just get out of joliet?
You really are an ignorant asswipe aren't you.  I was asking a simple question which did not require a hostel assholish response. 
Saki is not prison hooch you moron and rice and raisin wine is a version of saki not a pure one as those only contain koji rice.



no joking aroung with this twat, i reckon......
take a chill pill, bitch
also...fyi:
H-O-S-T-I-L-E
not ''hostel'', lest you call someone else dumbass.
also, i don't need a fucking lecture on the makings of beer, or what the fuck ''saki'' is.
know-it-all + cunty= don't mix well.

Smartass in spelling at least.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 22, 2010, 04:06:05 PM
i want someone here to show us how to make a still.
You don't need a still to make some very potent alcohol that is if you only want something to drink.  Look up rice and raisin wine.
bitch, i ain't talkn' bout prison-hooch here
what the fuck, you just get out of joliet?
You really are an ignorant asswipe aren't you.  I was asking a simple question which did not require a hostel assholish response. 
Saki is not prison hooch you moron and rice and raisin wine is a version of saki not a pure one as those only contain koji rice.



no joking aroung with this twat, i reckon......
take a chill pill, bitch
also...fyi:
H-O-S-T-I-L-E
not ''hostel'', lest you call someone else dumbass.
also, i don't need a fucking lecture on the makings of beer, or what the fuck ''saki'' is.
know-it-all + cunty= don't mix well.

Smartass in spelling at least.

nigga smart all over
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Major Jizz on May 22, 2010, 04:50:41 PM
bitch, i ain't talkn' bout prison-hooch here
what the fuck, you just get out of joliet?

 :lol:
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: mikehz on May 23, 2010, 08:42:52 AM
tina louise was pretty hot, but mary-ann had a ++++hot factor going on
plus, she likes to smoke weed.
remember?

So did Gilligan. Explains why everyone on that island was so goofy.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 23, 2010, 10:41:16 AM
what i wanna know is,
if the professor was so fucking smart...i mean, he could build a computer out of coconuts..remember the full-size pedal car/taxi??
why couldn't the cocksucker build a simple-fucking-RAFT?????
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: ForumTroll on May 23, 2010, 11:13:08 AM
what i wanna know is,
if the professor was so fucking smart...i mean, he could build a computer out of coconuts..remember the full-size pedal car/taxi??
why couldn't the cocksucker build a simple-fucking-RAFT?????

> tv shows
> logic

lol
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on May 28, 2010, 11:43:17 AM
what i wanna know is,
if the professor was so fucking smart...i mean, he could build a computer out of coconuts..remember the full-size pedal car/taxi??
why couldn't the cocksucker build a simple-fucking-RAFT?????

because gilligan would screw it up
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 31, 2010, 07:36:57 PM
what i wanna know is,
if the professor was so fucking smart...i mean, he could build a computer out of coconuts..remember the full-size pedal car/taxi??
why couldn't the cocksucker build a simple-fucking-RAFT?????

because gilligan would screw it up


which begs the next question.
why the fuck didn't they just kill that simple cocksucker?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: libertylover on June 02, 2010, 06:34:38 AM
Gilligan's Island the original Lost.  Everyone on the island had a reason to want to stay right where they were.  They would claim to want to get off but in reality they were better off on the island.  They all had some sort of scandal or reason to want to stay but I could be wrong haven't watch the show since I was 12 years old.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on June 02, 2010, 07:18:26 AM
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I don't know what makes idiots think this is a copyright violation.  IMO, it's usually an attempt to AVOID copying W/O permission.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: anarchir on June 02, 2010, 03:02:26 PM
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I don't know what makes idiots think this is a copyright violation.  IMO, it's usually an attempt to AVOID copying W/O permission.

Are you referring to the fact that I quoted rather than simply posted? I only posted it because I wanted to show that the link does work and goes to the content referred to. The other reason to quote is because you want to show the content of the article and then still be able to comment on it separately. Also, to avoid TL/DR situations you may just want to quote a certain section of reading for the intended audience.

I dont care about "copying without permission" unless someone tries to pass it off as their own. Then all that needs to be done is the poster should be called out on their BS in a public place so others may avoid their content.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on June 02, 2010, 04:51:04 PM
(http://www.theepicenter.com/giffiles/tipoweek/lsystem.gif)

I don't know what makes idiots think this is a copyright violation.  IMO, it's usually an attempt to AVOID copying W/O permission.

Are you referring to the fact that I quoted rather than simply posted? I only posted it because I wanted to show that the link does work and goes to the content referred to. The other reason to quote is because you want to show the content of the article and then still be able to comment on it separately. Also, to avoid TL/DR situations you may just want to quote a certain section of reading for the intended audience.

I dont care about "copying without permission" unless someone tries to pass it off as their own. Then all that needs to be done is the poster should be called out on their BS in a public place so others may avoid their content.

No, I'm referring to the idiots who replaced the picture with a message claiming copyright enfringment (sorta like I said.)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: anarchir on June 02, 2010, 04:58:06 PM
(http://www.theepicenter.com/giffiles/tipoweek/lsystem.gif)

I don't know what makes idiots think this is a copyright violation.  IMO, it's usually an attempt to AVOID copying W/O permission.

Are you referring to the fact that I quoted rather than simply posted? I only posted it because I wanted to show that the link does work and goes to the content referred to. The other reason to quote is because you want to show the content of the article and then still be able to comment on it separately. Also, to avoid TL/DR situations you may just want to quote a certain section of reading for the intended audience.

I dont care about "copying without permission" unless someone tries to pass it off as their own. Then all that needs to be done is the poster should be called out on their BS in a public place so others may avoid their content.

No, I'm referring to the idiots who replaced the picture with a message claiming copyright enfringment (sorta like I said.)

Oh ok then.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: anarchir on June 02, 2010, 05:00:47 PM
I still dont see where that happened though but whatever... I still see a pic of a tv hooked up to a generator.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on June 02, 2010, 05:02:59 PM
I still dont see where that happened though but whatever... I still see a pic of a tv hooked up to a generator.

That could be the confusion.  The rest of us see an image of a TV test pattern with the message "Hot-linking this image is not authorized by the copyright holder.  Contact the website who is using this image and ask them to remove it."
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on August 19, 2010, 06:01:14 PM
(http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/7746/198107.jpg)
(http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/3057/1981010.jpg) 
Bump. This is all I got right now, but I missed the thread, and I am sick of the middle East stuff.
After the birth of my youngest I had to quit the gym. I will be starting again soon but I am so out of shape I lashed some junk together to get a little back in the groove before I go back. Its a 7' long pipe, a pulley from the ceiling, and two 25L jugs. I use it as a standard barbell for several exercises the jugs hang off the chains on each end of the pipe. And I do several pull down exercises from the pulley. (little pic)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: TimeLady Victorious on August 19, 2010, 06:29:30 PM
Don't forget building giant fucking antennas to get in OTA TV, radio, and WiFi too.

http://retrothing.typepad.com/photos/uncategorized/2008/04/04/grayhoverman.jpg
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 27, 2010, 04:22:26 PM
(http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8850/knife2792010.jpg)

A hobby I have, is making ridiculously large Bowie knives. I hadn't made one for awhile, but my daughter wanted to see it done, so I made this one over the weekend.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 27, 2010, 05:00:23 PM
That looks good. How's it done? Grinders & buffers?

I'd forgotten about this thread & just remembered this link:
http://www.blacksmithchic.com/book.htm

Quote
The Backyard Blacksmith shows you how -- with some patience and a working knowledge of metals, basic tools, and techniques -- blacksmithing can be easy to learn, and a rewarding hobby. Through instructions and illustrations, readers will learn to make simple tools and useful items, such as nails, hinges, and handles, and also an interesting mix of artful projects, such letter openers, door knockers and botanical ornaments.

A few years ago I helped a guy pour some bronze sculptures in a backyard foundry he had set up. Barrels & sand & a large torch hooked up to a natural gas line. It was awesome.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: davann on September 27, 2010, 07:26:41 PM
That looks good. How's it done? Grinders & buffers?

I'd forgotten about this thread & just remembered this link:
http://www.blacksmithchic.com/book.htm

Quote
The Backyard Blacksmith shows you how -- with some patience and a working knowledge of metals, basic tools, and techniques -- blacksmithing can be easy to learn, and a rewarding hobby. Through instructions and illustrations, readers will learn to make simple tools and useful items, such as nails, hinges, and handles, and also an interesting mix of artful projects, such letter openers, door knockers and botanical ornaments.

A few years ago I helped a guy pour some bronze sculptures in a backyard foundry he had set up. Barrels & sand & a large torch hooked up to a natural gas line. It was awesome.



Ive always wanted to try backyard blacksmithing. A couple of months ago I looked briefly into it and then forgot about it for some reason. There is even a gas line all ready to go in the backyard. Do you know if your neighbor needed a special line or would a regular line for a grill work?

Setting something like this up would give me bonus points at work I think. Using the company product in new (old) ways. Id be the talk on the third floor for couple of days at least. Brownie points!
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 27, 2010, 09:14:51 PM
That looks good. How's it done? Grinders & buffers?

I'd forgotten about this thread & just remembered this link:
http://www.blacksmithchic.com/book.htm

Quote
The Backyard Blacksmith shows you how -- with some patience and a working knowledge of metals, basic tools, and techniques -- blacksmithing can be easy to learn, and a rewarding hobby. Through instructions and illustrations, readers will learn to make simple tools and useful items, such as nails, hinges, and handles, and also an interesting mix of artful projects, such letter openers, door knockers and botanical ornaments.

A few years ago I helped a guy pour some bronze sculptures in a backyard foundry he had set up. Barrels & sand & a large torch hooked up to a natural gas line. It was awesome.



Ive always wanted to try backyard blacksmithing. A couple of months ago I looked briefly into it and then forgot about it for some reason. There is even a gas line all ready to go in the backyard. Do you know if your neighbor needed a special line or would a regular line for a grill work?

Setting something like this up would give me bonus points at work I think. Using the company product in new (old) ways. Id be the talk on the third floor for couple of days at least. Brownie points!


Gas fire doesn't generate the kind of heat you need for blacksmithing.  If by blacksmithing you mean pounding red-hot iron on an anvil.  They do it in coal so they can shove the metal in the coalbed and let it melt until its mailable. 

You could use your gas line to light the coal, which is harder than you may think.   But a portable tank is just as efficient.  I would assume a modern forge would be gas-lit, thats how I'd make one. 

I watched a guy on History make samurai swords the other day.  Fuckin awesome. 
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 28, 2010, 06:17:30 AM
hellbilly
How's it done? Grinders & buffers?

Tools I used: Angle grinder, multidirectional vice, belt sander, welder, table saw, drillpress.
Yeah, I just cut the basic shape out of 4mm stainless and carved it out with the angle grinder and a belt sander. The grip is made out of a peace of birch I cut from a log out of my firewood pile. The hand guard is welded on.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: davann on September 28, 2010, 10:49:21 AM
That looks good. How's it done? Grinders & buffers?

I'd forgotten about this thread & just remembered this link:
http://www.blacksmithchic.com/book.htm

Quote
The Backyard Blacksmith shows you how -- with some patience and a working knowledge of metals, basic tools, and techniques -- blacksmithing can be easy to learn, and a rewarding hobby. Through instructions and illustrations, readers will learn to make simple tools and useful items, such as nails, hinges, and handles, and also an interesting mix of artful projects, such letter openers, door knockers and botanical ornaments.

A few years ago I helped a guy pour some bronze sculptures in a backyard foundry he had set up. Barrels & sand & a large torch hooked up to a natural gas line. It was awesome.



Ive always wanted to try backyard blacksmithing. A couple of months ago I looked briefly into it and then forgot about it for some reason. There is even a gas line all ready to go in the backyard. Do you know if your neighbor needed a special line or would a regular line for a grill work?

Setting something like this up would give me bonus points at work I think. Using the company product in new (old) ways. Id be the talk on the third floor for couple of days at least. Brownie points!


Gas fire doesn't generate the kind of heat you need for blacksmithing.  If by blacksmithing you mean pounding red-hot iron on an anvil.  They do it in coal so they can shove the metal in the coalbed and let it melt until its mailable.  

You could use your gas line to light the coal, which is harder than you may think.   But a portable tank is just as efficient.  I would assume a modern forge would be gas-lit, thats how I'd make one.  

I watched a guy on History make samurai swords the other day.  Fuckin awesome.  

Good to know. I absolutely plan on looking into this again now the temp is coming down to a reasonable level.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 28, 2010, 07:10:19 PM
You can set up a natural gas or propane forge to do your blacksmithing. Instead of resting your metal in the coals, you insert it into the forge to heat it up, and then go beat it out on the anvil. Plus- you're not breathing coal smoke, to much of that and you'll get nerve damage (at least).

I think the trick with the natural gas method is that you need a good amount of pressure coming through the lines.

That's a good lookin' knife alaric.

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 28, 2010, 08:36:02 PM
You can set up a natural gas or propane forge to do your blacksmithing. Instead of resting your metal in the coals, you insert it into the forge to heat it up, and then go beat it out on the anvil. Plus- you're not breathing coal smoke, to much of that and you'll get nerve damage (at least).

I think the trick with the natural gas method is that you need a good amount of pressure coming through the lines.

That's a good lookin' knife alaric.



Gas Forges.

What about natural gas and Propane?

Blacksmiths today now have access to gas-fired forges and furnaces as well as coal and coke forges to heat the iron. Gas forges offer the convenience of not having to worry about where to buy good smithing coal. Gas forges are not as hot as coal forges and take longer to heat the iron to a forging temperature. In all cases the lower heat value of gas means longer heat times and more oxidation. However the size and capacity of the gas forge allows a much larger number of straight un-worked, or nearly straight bars to be placed in the fire at one time, and therefore can heat more un-worked bars over a longer period of time than the coal forge. This last point is the reason why a business needing forgings is more likely to have a gas forge than a coal forge. On the other hand the coal forge is still king when higher heats on larger and heavier bars are needed, and fewer bars are to be heated for work, and for heating work of more complex shape which cannot be placed inside the limited interior area of the gas forge. Each type of forge (coal or gas) has its advantages and disadvantages, and this is why each shop must choose what type of setup works best in their situation. Many shops employ both gas and coal forges and use them each for specific tasks such as-coal for heavy bars and gas for large numbers of small work.

Most gas forges never get up to welding heat.

Contrary to what most hobbyists are claiming today, most factory-made gas forges cannot reach welding heat. Don't be fooled by the claims of amateurs that they forge weld all the time with this or that forge. Most amateurs are simply boasting of being able to do something that they have never actually done. Most factory-made gas forges cannot reach welding heat, and the few that can, will heat the iron much more slowly. During the last 25 years, a new welding flux was introduced specifically for allowing gas forges (those forges that are actually capable of reaching welding heat) to be used for welding. This special flux is formulated for the increased scaling that results from longer heat times when using the gas forge.

The lower temperature and slower heating associated with the gas forge is actually helpful to most beginner smiths and those with poor fire skills because, a cheap gas forge will not heat the iron to a sizzling white heat- suddenly destroying the iron. Instead the iron will waste away (slowly burning) in the fire over a long period of time, but the inexperienced smith need not worry about suddenly destroying his iron by accidentally leaving it in the fire too long. On the other hand...

Some gas forges CAN get hot enough to fire weld!

There are some homemade and custom designed gas forges that can reach this higher heat. If the reader is going the gas forge route, I recommend visiting Ron Reil's website to see how to design the hotter custom-made forges at http://ronreil.abana.org/design1.shtml . Ron has compiled a large collection of designs both of his own and those sent to him by friends. Lots of designs of burners, insulation, most are inexpensive. These guys keep adding more stuff.

Special fluxes needed for fire welding with gas forges.

Since gas forges will take longer to heat iron, more oxidation will develop during the extended heating period. Special fluxes are used to deal with the additional scaling which results from this oxidation. Centaur Forge sells these fluxes.




http://www.beautifuliron.com/smithforge.htm
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 28, 2010, 09:19:14 PM
I see that the welding gloves have come off.



I acknowledge your challenge and my return volley is thus:

http://www.iplayerhd.com/player/player-DBCA888B-4C95-4448-8D40-4F4923566CE0.aspx

If you've watched the end of the video you will have noted the white-hot ore ready to be forged. I concede that quality and lasting welds will require higher temperatures, however, a gas forge will do well for many backyard projects -- particularly a forge that has a round shape, as the one in the video.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 29, 2010, 11:38:24 AM
Thanks for the compliment, hellbilly. :D
Forges don't have to be complicated. I saw at a "iron age" working museum in Sweden a forge that consisted of a indention in the ground a pipe and a simple belows. Worked fine. Used coal of course.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on September 29, 2010, 08:22:43 PM
I see that the welding gloves have come off.




If you're not making a coal fire to blacksmith, you have a vagina.  This is Appalachia, son.  A thousand bearded men with rock-hard forearms just rolled over in their graves. 


But you can use gas, I guess.  In a pinch.  If you have to shoe a mule like right-fuckin-now.

But coal is just so awesome manly.  Think about it, you got a big brick hearth, all the tongs and shit.  Brick, coal, anvil.  Awesome.

Gas.  I donno, its just not right. 
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on September 30, 2010, 07:59:56 AM
''city'' blacksmiths use gas

goddamned flatlanders
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 30, 2010, 08:02:47 PM
...and the gas lines might go out during the Apocalypse too.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on September 30, 2010, 09:12:34 PM
...and the gas lines might go out during the Apocalypse too.

Might?

I doubt keeping the pipelines running would be possible.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 30, 2010, 10:43:33 PM
A joke, you muslim-debate-thread-locking fascist-jackboot.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on September 30, 2010, 10:53:20 PM
A joke, you muslim-debate-thread-locking fascist-jackboot.

BANNED!
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 30, 2010, 11:23:52 PM
Test post #1-A timestamp: 11:23 EST
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on October 01, 2010, 02:55:30 PM
double, boner-joe-nigga-please
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: davann on October 01, 2010, 05:25:24 PM
Breathing in coal and getting nerve damage does not sound all that fun to me. I'll be a pussy and go with gas.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 01, 2010, 08:54:16 PM
...and the gas lines might go out during the Apocalypse too.

Might?

I doubt keeping the pipelines running would be possible.

They have safeguards built in for catastrophic situations.  The compressors run on nat gas, which in turn pull gas from the wells and pressurize the system.  Its almost like perpetual motion, except it burns energy to maintain itself.  The pressures go into "safe mode" for lack of a better term.  Six hundred pounds, or thereabouts, in the big interstate pipes. 

It is arguable whether the suppliers would terminate service.  The meters still run, you'll pay for it eventually.  The companies don't just cease to exist.  In a truly apocalyptic situation, they'd eventually valve-off to protect the wealth of the resource and keep it in the ground.  In a skirmish, probably not.  There are certain rules to interruption of service, and certain places which require service, like hospitals and military bases.  They have their own bunker fuel to fall back on, but its probable that you'd see the gas remain online to facilitate a societal structure - although they could valve-off individual blocks that don't have important installations existing within its realm.  If you were lucky enough to live near a place of such importance, you'd probably have gas. 
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on October 01, 2010, 09:00:32 PM
Doesn't the gas have to be filtered at some point in the distribution process for hydrogen sulfide? I'm sure that would break down first.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 01, 2010, 09:26:52 PM
Doesn't the gas have to be filtered at some point in the distribution process for hydrogen sulfide? I'm sure that would break down first.

Yeah, there are numerous filters throughout the distribution process.  They last a while.  In my experience, a filter can run between six months to a year before its causing problems.  If the filter is very near a compressor station or a regassification facility (where they turn LNG back into NG) it can get fucked up early. 

Without the filters, condensate builds up in the lines and causes accumulation of heavies.  Low spots in the lines will form puddles of distillate, sorta like too much cholesterol.  The puddles will blow into smaller facilities and cause problems.  They also trap welding slag, metal shavings, pigshit, dirt, etc.  (pigs are the things that scrape out the insides of pipes, like a snowplow).   
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on October 02, 2010, 08:53:14 AM
who run barter-town?

''embargo on''
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on January 08, 2011, 05:06:33 PM
Moonshine and Bluegrass 180 Proof (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNY3_00p180#)
I miss this thread.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: libertylover on January 08, 2011, 10:58:59 PM
I miss this thread.

Personally I miss Popcorn Sutton he was the last of breed of moonshiners and independent minded people in North Carolina.  It was a shame he killed himself rather than go to Federal Prison.  He also looked far older than his years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Sutton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Sutton)

You should watch the entire documentary about the man called, "The Last One."
which is more of a how to movie for moonshine than a compelling story.

Popcorn Sutton's book is better.  http://www.amazon.com/Me-My-Likker-Popcorn-Sutton/dp/0970162804/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237679728&sr=8-6
 (http://www.amazon.com/Me-My-Likker-Popcorn-Sutton/dp/0970162804/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1237679728&sr=8-6)  It is uncensored and out there. 


Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: anarchir on January 08, 2011, 11:22:42 PM
Popcorn Sutton was an epic and great man. Its too bad he never realized how many fans he had, we someone could have smuggled him out of the state and into safety. Its a system of keeping Robin Hood like men out of the states clutches that is currently working for the "King of Pot": John Robert Boone.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on January 09, 2011, 06:47:11 AM
Good idea. Lets work on that.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on February 20, 2011, 12:58:46 PM
I had to change out the front passenger side bearings in my wife's 95 VW Golf. Discovered early on thanks to the road salt and the cheapo way the car is constructed I would have to think outside the box to get this stuff done.
Also found out maintenance books are not reality based.
(http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/8261/golffront1.jpg)
After breaking my puller on the rusty tie rod, I used a 20mm wrench A peace of 1/2 " steel and a modified clamp I had from a earlier car nightmare (a 1/4" strap of stainless bent around with a 3/8 bolt through it) and... didn't budge. So I swung it 90 degrees and used the anti sway bar between the wrench and the steel, this stabilized the puller set up and gave more leverage. Still didn't budge. So I stuck my jack under the tie rod and whacked the drive assembly with my BFH. Sorted.
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/1461/golffront11.jpg)
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/2025/golffront12.jpg)
In the book it said "lightly whack the spline with a rubber mallet and pull the steering drive assembly from the car." Yeah right. I fabricated a puller and pushed against bolts screwed into the lugnut holes. I used a 1/2 inch bolt to push the spline out. Rust had assured hat I had to use torque all the way off.
(http://img813.imageshack.us/img813/5227/golffront13.jpg)
The book said it was possible to press the bearings out with a good vice.....somehow. Anyway when I got that far I couldn't for the life of me figure out how to use a vice to do that. So I noticed a tool I built a while back to put in fence posts. I used it once in the 90's and it had been doing duty as a doorstop in my garage ever sense. The 1" plate I used for weight made a fine pressing surface. I welded some box steel around and after acquiring my 2 ton hydraulic screw jack from my Nissan, I had me a press.
(http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/615/golf4t.jpg)
When I pressed in the new bearings, I used the exploded remaines of the old one. I belt sanded the big one a bit so it wouldn't catch, but it did anyway. I welded a bit of steel across and popped it out with a hammer and a punch. The smaller one worked fine as it was.
Road tested the car, seemed to work fine. Knock on wood. :shock:
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 20, 2011, 01:27:01 PM
Fucking German cars..............

Great when they're running, but a huge pain in the ass when you have to fix them. Always gotta have some weird ass tool that is only used on that specific model and year car, paper thin open ended 32mm wrenches to remove the radiator fan clutch bolt between the radiator and clutch axle.........annoying.


1991 BMW 325i
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on February 20, 2011, 02:54:02 PM
jesus dude

no torches?

no breakaway spray?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on February 20, 2011, 03:04:31 PM
That job did look brutal.

attaboy for gettin er done!
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on February 20, 2011, 04:48:25 PM
Only three more wheels to go!  :D
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 20, 2011, 05:31:07 PM
jesus dude

no torches?

no breakaway spray?

A real man FORCES shit apart..............




then goes and buys a new one when it breaks.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on February 20, 2011, 11:56:53 PM
Only three more wheels to go!  :D

Already changed the back ones. They were adjustable tapered types, which are easy to do.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: sandm000 on February 21, 2011, 01:02:41 PM
I'm gonna drop the titles of some books, I have literally no idea of how I got them zipped and stored on my HD. I'm sure you could google the title and find the same thing.

canadian_b-gl-382-003pt-001 - 2002.zip
united _states_marine_mrcp_3-02f - 8_june_1992.pdf
united_states_army_fm_3-3-1 - 9_september_1994.pdf
united_states_army_fm_9-13 - 4_november_1986.pdf
united_states_army_mm 2598.pdf
united_states_army_tc_21-3 - 17_march_1986.pdf
united_states_army_tc_21-21 - 25_june_1991.pdf
united_states_marine_mcrp_6-11a - 14_april_1997.pdf
united_states_marine_mwtc_summer - 6_february-2005.pdf
united_states_marine_mwtc_winter - 6_february-2005.pdf
united_states_navy_navmed p-5055 - aug_2001.pdf
us marine corps - mwtc cold weather medicine course.pdf
us marine corps - mwtc wilderness medicine course.pdf
us_army_corps_of_engineers_em 385-1-80 - 30_may_1970.pdf
wood_gas_generator.pdf


My google search led to a RapdiShit list
http://www.scribd.com/doc/9450746/Books

My favorite is that gas generator. If I ever had the need, I'd be cuttin down trees to drive around the neighborhood.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on March 06, 2011, 10:06:14 AM
(http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/1189/fredknife4.jpg)
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/2148/fredknife6.jpg)
(http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5624/fredknife3.jpg)
Made another one. The new one is better balanced though.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on March 06, 2011, 10:08:39 AM
damn, it looks freezing cold there!  I like the one that cut the tree limb off!  The one by the dollar bill...is that the one?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on March 06, 2011, 10:21:00 AM
They both look awesome!  You're a real craftsman!
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on March 06, 2011, 10:25:32 AM
They are the same knife. In the photo With the two together, the earlier knife from this thread is pitchered with it for comparisen purposes.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on March 06, 2011, 10:32:02 AM
the new one looks like it has a slightly larger blade.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on March 06, 2011, 10:45:30 AM
How do you post pics without going through a url like imageshack?  Like from my pics folder for example.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on March 06, 2011, 11:00:19 AM
Is that possible? I use image shack.
Glad you asked about the blade size. Actually it is slightly smaller, I adjusted the legnth to go with the curves of the two edges. The new one is from a blank I had laser cut. On the prototype I found the curved edge to be useful when cutting food and especially meat but it was over balanced out slightly.
On the new one the main edge is a 1/2 meter radius precisely, the false edge is also a precise 0.15 meter and the balance is much better, and the handle is much more comfortable to hold. I meant to use those measurements all along, but the prototype lost a bit of precision when I cut the blank with a angle grinder.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on March 06, 2011, 12:25:44 PM
How do you post pics without going through a url like imageshack?  Like from my pics folder for example.

You dont.

They dont host here.

Talk to BonerJoe and have him pass the idea along to Ian to make it happen. He should have the cash to do it.  :P







Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on March 06, 2011, 01:28:09 PM
not sure what "they don't host here" means.  You can post pics from your folder on your avatar.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on March 06, 2011, 01:38:13 PM
not sure what "they don't host here" means.  You can post pics from your folder on your avatar.
Yeah, but thats the only field where you can do that, plus its just a little tiny picture that doesn't take up much storage space on the server.

Like I said, Ian needs to pony up and host all the pics we wanna post.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 14, 2011, 02:42:32 PM
(http://img850.imageshack.us/img850/3189/cimg0006g.jpg)
My second agorist delivery. It is a door that will be installed on a fishing boat. Traded the work for several thousand dollars worth of food.
A mutually beneficial trade that created wealth into the general public coffers that no thug will receive a penny of, because the customer was another agorist (Though he doesn't know the word. Someone's helping my goals on his own why mention it?)
In case you are wondering the materials were scrap extruded aluminium and wood. The frame is custom cut out of many peaces and glued together with alternating grains and gaps. I used silicon glue for flexibility.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 14, 2011, 02:54:40 PM
Pretty cool door man.


Just one piece of advice........

If you're installing it on the hull of the boat, dont open it when the boat is in the water. All your hard work will be for nothing.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 14, 2011, 03:05:28 PM
Heres a little tip.

Got a active land line at your house? You can use the voltage going through it to power a whole shitload of LED lights, useful for setting up a lighting system for a workshop or something similar. Best part is, theres no meter on a phone line to measure the power usage. FREE electricity for your shed or workshop. Not useful for power tools or anything that works on 120, but you can use it for lighting and charging recahrgable batteries and other low voltage stuff of that nature.  Mines got about 35 volts going through it, but from what I understand, this can vary from location to location.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on May 14, 2011, 03:07:38 PM
Best part is, theres no meter on a phone line to measure the power usage.

Sounds interesting to try and regulate down that kind of voltage to a couple of volts DC. The voltage spikes when a ring signal is sent too.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 14, 2011, 03:16:27 PM
Best part is, theres no meter on a phone line to measure the power usage.

Sounds interesting to try and regulate down that kind of voltage to a couple of volts DC. The voltage spikes when a ring signal is sent too.

Yeah, the ring spike can run the voltage up prob. 15 volts higher.

Heres a pretty good set of instructions to get it working. Shows all the Radio Shack shit you need to do it. Might not be for everyone, but its a neat little idea that could come in handy for some people.

http://www.instructables.com/id/FREE-Hidden-Electricity!/
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on May 14, 2011, 04:28:32 PM
Best part is, theres no meter on a phone line to measure the power usage.

Sounds interesting to try and regulate down that kind of voltage to a couple of volts DC. The voltage spikes when a ring signal is sent too.

Yeah, the ring spike can run the voltage up prob. 15 volts higher.

Heres a pretty good set of instructions to get it working. Shows all the Radio Shack shit you need to do it. Might not be for everyone, but its a neat little idea that could come in handy for some people.

http://www.instructables.com/id/FREE-Hidden-Electricity!/

Seems like there should be a capacitor in there. Bad circuit design.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 14, 2011, 05:03:59 PM
Best part is, theres no meter on a phone line to measure the power usage.

Sounds interesting to try and regulate down that kind of voltage to a couple of volts DC. The voltage spikes when a ring signal is sent too.

Yeah, the ring spike can run the voltage up prob. 15 volts higher.

Heres a pretty good set of instructions to get it working. Shows all the Radio Shack shit you need to do it. Might not be for everyone, but its a neat little idea that could come in handy for some people.

http://www.instructables.com/id/FREE-Hidden-Electricity!/

Seems like there should be a capacitor in there. Bad circuit design.

A guy put a comment in there about that.

"I found an error in your schematic.  A better one would be found at
http://www.national.com/ds/LM/LM117.pdf
You are misconnecting the voltage-divider resistor network.   R1 and R2 (in series) go from output to ground with the adjust pin connected between them.  The output  voltage (and resister values) can be figured by:
Vout = 1.25v(1+R1/R2) + the voltage drop across R2.
R1 is output to adjust pin, R2 is adjust pin to ground (- voltage).
Ripple in the output is eliminated by use of a filter (electrolytic) capacitor between output and ground."
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on May 14, 2011, 10:11:28 PM
Just as a thing on self-sufficiency. I did the math on solar panels a while back, and I think that market is filled with snake-oil salesmen.

If you live in Arizona, and get the full-package of panels, batteries, grid tie-in, and stuff, the break-even point is 14 years.

If you don't get the extra crap that wont do you any good anyways, and instead drive a steak into the ground to deal with extra energy, you could get the return on your investment in 7 years.

If you get the new panels that make electricity from ultraviolet, and infrared spectrum, you could see a return on investment in 3.5 years. In New England, it would take much longer.

This is one of the sources I used:  http://solar.coolerplanet.com/Articles/solar-power-cost.aspx


Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on May 14, 2011, 10:20:12 PM
Way back when, I looked into a way to avoid the high price of gas, by changing my car to run on propane.


Well, with half the energy of gas, it breaks down to 6 bucks per gallon, and that's without propane being taxed like gas.

Now, if you ever wanted to swap a car into being a plug-in hybrid, or flex-fuel, or something, there is what to be said about it. A friend of mine for example, used used fry oil to power his diesel (greasel) car. Was virtually free.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 14, 2011, 10:34:40 PM
What do you guys think of a hydrogen fuel setup similar to this? I was seriously thinking of buying a cheap little car at the auto auction for 400 bucks or so, and using it as a guinea pig to see if it works as good as everyone seems to think.


http://www.hydrogencarsnow.com/hydrogen-generators-cars.htm
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on May 14, 2011, 11:05:24 PM
If you live in Arizona, and get the full-package of panels, batteries, grid tie-in, and stuff, the break-even point is 14 years.

Are you including failure and maintenance, such as battery replacement?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 14, 2011, 11:11:33 PM
If you live in Arizona, and get the full-package of panels, batteries, grid tie-in, and stuff, the break-even point is 14 years.

Are you including failure and maintenance, such as battery replacement?

The best deep cycle batteries I know of have a life span of about 15 yrs, assuming no defects. So once you reach break even point.................. time to pay again.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on May 14, 2011, 11:14:13 PM
If you live in Arizona, and get the full-package of panels, batteries, grid tie-in, and stuff, the break-even point is 14 years.

Are you including failure and maintenance, such as battery replacement?

I am not a mathematician, so no. Plus, I don't know the numbers for those variables. It includes professional installation, and assumes the cost of energy is stagnant.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on May 14, 2011, 11:25:18 PM
If you live in Arizona, and get the full-package of panels, batteries, grid tie-in, and stuff, the break-even point is 14 years.

Are you including failure and maintenance, such as battery replacement?

The best deep cycle batteries I know of have a life span of about 15 yrs, assuming no defects. So once you reach break even point.................. time to pay again.

Its shit like this that makes people hate capitalism. The problem its not. Its bullshitism when you try to pass off a product as something it isn't. If you have a few summers that are cloudy, it will never pay off, and cost more than its worth.

The guys really getting shafted are people buying solar in the Northeast thinking it might be a good idea. Its not. They're better off with geothermal heat sinks. Or they could reduce their absurd gas bills by coating the walls with spray-on porcelain. That's something nobody is doing yet.

Out west, if you're assured of getting enough water, you could build your pool into a heat sink for the summer.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on May 14, 2011, 11:58:00 PM
I would only install solar if I was on some remote piece of land and the cost of running power was near or exceeded the cost of installing a system. Then it would be worth it.

That, or if I thought the Apocalypse was coming.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 15, 2011, 08:07:48 AM
A self contained home has to be planned and built from the ground up. It is actually pretty simple when thought of that way. My Dad built a underground house back in Montana that was so well designed it very seldom needed to use any of the backup systems. It used solar for heat only. Solar heating units work really well. There was a company that built some good ones in Great Falls Mt. back in the 70's. As I understand it the power companies bought them out to close them down.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 15, 2011, 02:15:39 PM
solar hot water is much more viable & cost-realisitic....even in the frigid northeast
pv (photovoltaic) is still in its infancy, vis-a-vis cost to benefit ratio.....we just don't have the technology yet to mass produce this shit & convert/store electricity in a cost-effective manner.

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 15, 2011, 03:24:39 PM
http://www.builditsolar.com/index.htm (http://www.builditsolar.com/index.htm)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: mikehz on May 15, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
I have a ham radio buddy who lives remotely in the mountains with no outside power. He's pretty handy, and put in his own solar system. Did a good job of it, too. (Funny, but his name is "Edison.") We chat over the air on the popular 2-meter band, which uses a system of repeaters to cover the entire state. Given his situation, he often has barely enough power to hit the repeater. (Most VHF radios have a two-watt and a five-watt output, and he usually has to use the lower setting. Often, this is fed into an amp ranging from 20-watts on up to the full legal 1500-watts.) The only time I can really hear him is late at night, when his batteries finally give out and he kicks on the generator. "Then, I can run 'er on up on the amplifier," he says.

Edison also uses solar for hot water. "The only time we really get a good shower is on a cloudy day, when the propane burner has to replace the sun."
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on May 15, 2011, 08:10:09 PM
Edison also uses solar for hot water. "The only time we really get a good shower is on a cloudy day, when the propane burner has to replace the sun."

Why wouldn't you just use solar to pre-heat the water? Less energy to heat up with the propane.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 15, 2011, 08:15:44 PM
your pal ''edison'' is , apparently, a moron.
with 2) 30 year+ old panels, i make 120 gal of 145-150 degree water on sunny summer days
i make @ 80 gal. of 120-130  deg. water during the winter.
i will post pics of my assembly when i can.
tell edison to get off the pipe
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on May 16, 2011, 09:06:29 AM
your pal ''edison'' is , apparently, a moron.
with 2) 30 year+ old panels, i make 120 gal of 145-150 degree water on sunny summer days
i make @ 80 gal. of 120-130  deg. water during the winter.
i will post pics of my assembly when i can.
tell edison to get off the pipe

But you cant shower with warm water in the morning.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: mikehz on May 16, 2011, 11:00:46 AM
your pal ''edison'' is , apparently, a moron.
with 2) 30 year+ old panels, i make 120 gal of 145-150 degree water on sunny summer days
i make @ 80 gal. of 120-130  deg. water during the winter.
i will post pics of my assembly when i can.
tell edison to get off the pipe

But you cant shower with warm water in the morning.

Or during weeks of overcast winter days in the mountains near the Canadian border.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 16, 2011, 04:15:07 PM
your pal ''edison'' is , apparently, a moron.
with 2) 30 year+ old panels, i make 120 gal of 145-150 degree water on sunny summer days
i make @ 80 gal. of 120-130  deg. water during the winter.
i will post pics of my assembly when i can.
tell edison to get off the pipe

But you cant shower with warm water in the morning.


ah,
the storage tank should be super-insulated.
if you use an indirect water heater (ie: superstor) for your heat exchanger/storage tank, it loses only 1/2 degree per hour
you won't lose all your hot h2o overnite
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 16, 2011, 04:17:22 PM
your pal ''edison'' is , apparently, a moron.
with 2) 30 year+ old panels, i make 120 gal of 145-150 degree water on sunny summer days
i make @ 80 gal. of 120-130  deg. water during the winter.
i will post pics of my assembly when i can.
tell edison to get off the pipe

But you cant shower with warm water in the morning.

Or during weeks of overcast winter days in the mountains near the Canadian border.

how many days a year is that?
20-30?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 17, 2011, 09:08:02 AM
Came right up on google. Sounds neat. http://www.htproducts.com/superstor-ultra.html (http://www.htproducts.com/superstor-ultra.html) Note: the solar products butten.
Mr. Dragline, you are a little like Mr. Shaw, a Gruff S.O.B. who is hard to take seriously sometimes, but probably should. In your case, anything to do with plumbing especially.
Notice there is a tax credit mentioned on the websight.
Well?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 17, 2011, 10:41:05 AM
Came right up on google. Sounds neat. http://www.htproducts.com/superstor-ultra.html (http://www.htproducts.com/superstor-ultra.html) Note: the solar products butten.
Mr. Dragline, you are a little like Mr. Shaw, a Gruff S.O.B. who is hard to take seriously sometimes, but probably should. In your case, anything to do with plumbing especially.
Notice there is a tax credit mentioned on the websight.
Well?


negro,
i been a licensed master plumber since 1987
been in the trade since '83
big fed. tax credits ended 12/31/10
some states & localities stil have smaller credits avail.
super-stor has a lifetime warr.
all stainless
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: blackie on May 17, 2011, 11:04:25 AM
How much does the super-stor cost?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on May 17, 2011, 03:10:47 PM
Came right up on google. Sounds neat. http://www.htproducts.com/superstor-ultra.html (http://www.htproducts.com/superstor-ultra.html) Note: the solar products butten.
Mr. Dragline, you are a little like Mr. Shaw, a Gruff S.O.B. who is hard to take seriously sometimes, but probably should. In your case, anything to do with plumbing especially.
Notice there is a tax credit mentioned on the websight.
Well?


negro,
i been a licensed master plumber since 1987
been in the trade since '83
big fed. tax credits ended 12/31/10
some states & localities stil have smaller credits avail.
super-stor has a lifetime warr.
all stainless

Well then, whats your stance on geothermal units?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 17, 2011, 03:57:13 PM
How much does the super-stor cost?

they're pricey.
if you have a solar system, you need a min. 80 gal tank
@ $1800-2000


that's what i'd sell it to you motherfuckers for
i'd pay @ $1500
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 17, 2011, 04:00:19 PM

Well then, whats your stance on geothermal units?


geo-therm is a great idea, but it has a major price tag.
only reasonable if the govt. gives you that big tax credit & you're going to stay in the house for 10+ years
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 17, 2011, 04:09:43 PM
Theres got to be a cheaper way. We just haven't thought of it yet.


I'll experiment in the back lot over the summer and get back to you guys if I invent a better/cheaper way.

Unless, of course, they use large sums of cash to silence me.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 17, 2011, 05:19:08 PM
coal.

i bought a coal/oil combo boiler for my shop/apartment bldg.
i'ma gonna buy a coal add-on for the house, and be done w/ the wood, methinks.

coal is the cheapest, lowest labor-intensive solid-fuel alternative heating system. (vs. wood or pellet)

it comes in 40lb bags....washed.......2500 lb to a pallet.
right from drif's backyard.

blaschak coal mine....in mahanoy city , pa
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on May 17, 2011, 05:42:50 PM
coal.

i bought a coal/oil combo boiler for my shop/apartment bldg.
i'ma gonna buy a coal add-on for the house, and be done w/ the wood, methinks.

coal is the cheapest, lowest labor-intensive solid-fuel alternative heating system. (vs. wood or pellet)

it comes in 40lb bags....washed.......2500 lb to a pallet.
right from drif's backyard.

blaschak coal mine....in mahanoy city , pa

Not worried about the mercury? I mean, you would avoid it with oil heating baseboards around the house, I guess.

You ever look into pipe insulation to lower costs of heating? What about spray-on porcelain? Whats your take on that?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 17, 2011, 09:36:12 PM
mercury?

shmercury.

my pipes are insulated.
i should have gone large on house insulation when we built vs. the standard fiberglass batting     R19 walls, etc

porcelain?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on May 17, 2011, 11:23:03 PM
http://www.gizmag.com/spray-on-ceramic-coating-dramatically-reduces-external-temperatures/6642/


Brain fart on my part. I was thinking about this.

Could insulate a wall from the outside.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 18, 2011, 01:22:42 AM
If you push it backwards through your meter, you can probably generate enough cash to make maintaining the system free.  Depends on the prices of your hardware, and if you have enough extra panels and windys to create a surplus.  Some places are windy and desolate enough to make wind a real good alternative.  In western Nevada, the Zephyr wind is - as I understand it - pretty regular.

Ideally, you'd want a hydroelectric project, if you had a decent creek with some slope to the ground. 

Depends how far off the grid you're talking.  And helps to DIY everything, so you can save fees, and also know how to repair it.

I've seen it mentioned that people who are completely off-grid will get propane/electric refrigerators.  If the electricity quits, the propane kicks it on. 

Its also important, in my opinion, to be in a region where the climate won't kill you.  There are times of year when you have to generate some heat, almost everywhere.  But in some places, you have to generate massive heat.  And energy is energy, so..  Less is better in all aspects. 

--

Every once in a while, I see a bank for sale.  A gods-honest, granite pillared bulwark.  Zero lawn.  Just a bank on a sidewalk. 

That'd be the shit. 

I also saw, in Upstate NY a few years ago, a Masonic temple, for about eighty grand.  Big stainless professional kitchen.  Bowling alley.  Ballrooms.  And then club suites and classrooms upstairs.  It was real cool. 

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on May 18, 2011, 01:33:51 AM
From what I understand, you'll never get a check from the utility company for putting surplus power into their system. What it does do is make the meter run backwards and negate any electricity you use during the night.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 18, 2011, 02:46:27 AM
It depends how big your rig is, and how much you consume, and how much you generate. 

Before I took step one, I'd interview the head of customer service at the local power company.  They're actually there for that.  You may wait in chairs for a while, but they'll see you.

Different companies may have different policies.  Peak times in antiquated grids get close to blackouts in the summer.  They want people putting wattage in. 

Like I said, I'd do hydro before anything, if possible.  But theres a lot of engineering in that.  Solar is cool because you can add on panels as affordable. But you need a pretty good number of them.

Electricity is gonna get very expensive in the next decade, as cars move towards it.  And the grid can often barely hold the load its got.  It makes a real nice supplemental retirement project, if you can get it right. 

I'm nowhere near being able to talk numbers, and won't be for quite a while.  But that talk with the electric company would be part of the due diligence in any property I'd buy.  Knowing the weather statistics would be another.  Nevada gets an average of 3600 hours of sunlight per year, and you need to know that kind of data, so you can calculate the wattage per panel you'd expect. 

If you've already settled on a region, then you need to focus differently.  Like a woodburner.  Everything comes second after that. 

I donno man, everyone has their own way.  Its all about harnessing whats abundant.  In the south, that'd be sun, water, or wind.  In the north, its wood. 

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 18, 2011, 02:48:05 AM
From what I understand, you'll never get a check from the utility company for putting surplus power into their system. What it does do is make the meter run backwards and negate any electricity you use during the night.

Yeah, pretty much thats how it works. There are places that will let you sell back and get a check from them, but most places im aware of only let you sell enough electricity back to them to the point where you break even, even if you are producing more than you are using. After that, you are basically giving the power company free electicity to use.

It all depends on the power company policy.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 18, 2011, 03:10:55 AM

It all depends on the power company policy.

In bigger industry, they have whats called "interruptable customers".  If they're on nat gas, they also have oil boilers.  And at peak, they can be asked to get off-line.  In exchange for that, they get a discount rate.

The grids are in bad shape.  Power companies are gonna have to be creative, and quick, before everyone gets an electric car.  I know thats a ways off, but they have to make the incentives ahead of time, so the population can adapt and create their household projects.  Otherwise, people won't bust out the expense for no real profit.  It requires a groundswell before it becomes a norm.

And even if they quit at break-even, I'd think about it.  Depending on the area. 








Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on May 18, 2011, 03:26:31 AM
So, I'm thinking, 640 acres of parabolic mirrors in bumfuck Utah wasteland. Yeah.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 18, 2011, 05:02:59 AM
I'd be into that. 
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 18, 2011, 07:24:42 AM
the biggest prob. w/ pv solar, is that you have to have an enormous bank of batteries to stor the power you create during the day
you also convert the lights & applainces to run on low volt
24v lighting, etc.
i spose there is an inverter system, but that again takes away from efficiency.
i don't think too many solar systems ''sell back'' power. you create during sunny, and store the unused for night-nites & cloudy's.
wind is a good sell-back, if you're in the right area.
the hydro idea would be key.

wood is labor-intensive vs. coal.
it works if you have a viable processing system in place, to sell enough to break-even on what you use (what i do) or even make a profit.
prob. w/ me is finding reliable people to do the nig-work, in an efficient way, while i'm not around.
i don't have time to process the wood we use in a winter.
i'm just NOT going to spend my summer that way.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 18, 2011, 09:27:02 AM
I think I've solved the problem....


(http://nextnature.net/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/thematrix.jpg)


(http://cathygeagan.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/matrix-baby.jpg)

Just gotta figure out where im gonna get all these babies.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: blackie on May 18, 2011, 12:48:52 PM
How much does the super-stor cost?

they're pricey.
if you have a solar system, you need a min. 80 gal tank
@ $1800-2000


that's what i'd sell it to you motherfuckers for
i'd pay @ $1500
That's not too bad. I had to replace a 120 gallon tank in the new place, and put in a 36 gallon tank. The plumber said it would cost $800, and then he came back with a $1500 bill. He was trying to charge $1200 for a $400 tank. So I know how plumbers try to fuck you over. I ended up paying $0.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 18, 2011, 04:18:53 PM
How much does the super-stor cost?

they're pricey.
if you have a solar system, you need a min. 80 gal tank
@ $1800-2000


that's what i'd sell it to you motherfuckers for
i'd pay @ $1500
That's not too bad. I had to replace a 120 gallon tank in the new place, and put in a 36 gallon tank. The plumber said it would cost $800, and then he came back with a $1500 bill. He was trying to charge $1200 for a $400 tank. So I know how plumbers try to fuck you over. I ended up paying $0.

electric???
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: blackie on May 18, 2011, 04:23:01 PM
I've seen it mentioned that people who are completely off-grid will get propane/electric refrigerators.  If the electricity quits, the propane kicks it on.  
I think a lot of those people go for straight propane refrigerators. Typically they are trying to reduce electricity consumption as much as possible. In the north you don't really need to use the refrigerator/freezer half of the year.

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Every once in a while, I see a bank for sale.  A gods-honest, granite pillared bulwark.  Zero lawn.  Just a bank on a sidewalk.  

That'd be the shit.
I'm not sure how well it would work if you wanted to be off grid. Those banks are almost always in a bad location.

My Uncle has an old bank. My Grandmother had a hair salon in it. The vault is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: blackie on May 18, 2011, 04:24:56 PM
How much does the super-stor cost?

they're pricey.
if you have a solar system, you need a min. 80 gal tank
@ $1800-2000


that's what i'd sell it to you motherfuckers for
i'd pay @ $1500
That's not too bad. I had to replace a 120 gallon tank in the new place, and put in a 36 gallon tank. The plumber said it would cost $800, and then he came back with a $1500 bill. He was trying to charge $1200 for a $400 tank. So I know how plumbers try to fuck you over. I ended up paying $0.

electric???
No, I have a big ass oil boiler. It's that indirect shit you were talking about.

I'd like to go solar for that at some point.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 18, 2011, 04:42:29 PM
It's that indirect shit you were talking about.


shit, that price i quoted was just for the tank.
no labor or mat'l

that jamoke way underbid your 36 gal replacement......
some guys don't know how to price a job.
a 36 gal s.stor would be @15-1700 installed....if it were replacing another indirect....ie: supply/return piping from boiler in place w/ circ. pump, wiring, etc.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 20, 2011, 02:05:34 AM
Every once in a while, I see a bank for sale.  A gods-honest, granite pillared bulwark.  Zero lawn.  Just a bank on a sidewalk.  

That'd be the shit.
I'm not sure how well it would work if you wanted to be off grid. Those banks are almost always in a bad location.

My Uncle has an old bank. My Grandmother had a hair salon in it. The vault is pretty cool.

For me, being off grid means a variety of things.  I usually think in woodsy terms.  But you could really be anywhere. 

Its not inconceivable that I could find a perfect place.  It doesn't mean I have to own it.  I could make some arrangements, and be very comfortable for a very long time, and own nothing at all.

That'd be off-grid, wouldn't it?

I think in slightly weirder terms than most.  I'm the kind of guy who would buy a lighthouse, and I'd probably get my ass crushed in it.

I'll know it when I see it.

--

The vault is the whole reason I want a bank.






 
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 20, 2011, 06:55:51 AM
there's a great ital restaurant in downtown nashua, nh......located in an old bank

http://www.villabanca.com/
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 20, 2011, 03:05:03 PM
How much does the super-stor cost?

they're pricey.
if you have a solar system, you need a min. 80 gal tank
@ $1800-2000


that's what i'd sell it to you motherfuckers for
i'd pay @ $1500
That's not too bad. I had to replace a 120 gallon tank in the new place, and put in a 36 gallon tank. The plumber said it would cost $800, and then he came back with a $1500 bill. He was trying to charge $1200 for a $400 tank. So I know how plumbers try to fuck you over. I ended up paying $0.
You got out of paying for the storage tank and the installation labour, or just the tank?
I always negotiate the entire job in detail before I agree either as a customer or as a vendor. I would rather lose a sale then have to deal with a difficult customer who tries to get something for nothing. I don't like to rip people off either, I pay my debts. My policy of pure honesty and above board dealings has always worked for me, any updates on the job are clearly laid out as well before I do anything different than the original deal.
I have been tricked by "confused" customers exactly once. I have had a difficult customers. They becomes "cash in advance only" but only after proof of being bad dealer.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: blackie on May 20, 2011, 04:45:02 PM
You got out of paying for the storage tank and the installation labour, or just the tank?
There was a bill of over $5000. I paid $0. So both tank and labor, and some other stuff.

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I always negotiate the entire job in detail before I agree either as a customer or as a vendor.
My wife did. She even had set up a payment plan with the plumber.

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I would rather lose a sale then have to deal with a difficult customer who tries to get something for nothing. I don't like to rip people off either, I pay my debts. My policy of pure honesty and above board dealings has always worked for me, any updates on the job are clearly laid out as well before I do anything different than the original deal.
I have been tricked by "confused" customers exactly once. I have had a difficult customers. They becomes "cash in advance only" but only after proof of being bad dealer.
That only works when you deal with honest people.

I paid them $2700 up front to dewinterize a place, get the heating system up and running, and cap the supply and drain for 12 sinks. I only had to pay 1/3 up front. I will never pay 100% upfront again.

After doing that work, they said a couple other things needed to get done. It was supposed to be around $2100, and my wife made an agreement that we would make four payments of about $525.

Over a month goes by, and no bill. We had asked for a bill multiple times.

We move to the place on a Friday night. On Monday morning I go to the office of the plumber, and ask if I can have the balance of my account. They say there is no account for me or my wife in the system, and also nothing for the property address. I leave my name and phone number.

I get a phone call about an hour later, and it's the manager guy.  I asked him if he had seen some utility sinks that are missing. He said he did see them at one point, and makes an appointment to visit me the next morning to go over the bill and explain to me what was done.  I had never talked to this guy before, so it was kind of weird that he wanted to talk to me, and not my wife. I didn't make any agreements with him.

Anyway, he shows up the next morning. We go down into the basement, next to the missing utility sinks, and the boiler, hotwater tank and that stuff. He hands me a bill for the hotwater tanks, and says "I'll let you open this". So I am looking at a $1500 bill, but it has my general contractors name and address on it. I didn't say anything.

I asked him about the sink. He failed to mention that his company had capped the drain line and done some other things to cover up the theft, and they were charging me for it.

Within a few days we let them know we would be disputing the bill, and they would need to provide an itemized list of the work that was done, and associated charges. We always said we would pay the $2100 we agreed to.

After about a month we got the first official corporate bill, with our name on it. The only thing on the bill was an amount.

My wife contacted the corporate office, and some operations manager got back to her. He was acting like a dick at first, but he was able to find out some info for us. He was able to tell us that they did cap the drain line to the utility sink. After he looked into it for about a week or two, he said he was making our account balance zero, and apologized.





Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: blackie on May 20, 2011, 05:22:22 PM
For me, being off grid means a variety of things.  I usually think in woodsy terms.  But you could really be anywhere. 

Its not inconceivable that I could find a perfect place.  It doesn't mean I have to own it.  I could make some arrangements, and be very comfortable for a very long time, and own nothing at all.

That'd be off-grid, wouldn't it?

I think in slightly weirder terms than most.  I'm the kind of guy who would buy a lighthouse, and I'd probably get my ass crushed in it.

I'll know it when I see it.
I guess I see being dependent on the sewer and water system as a big hurdle for more urban type places to be off-grid. I have this issue right now, and it kind of bothers me.

I don't think ownership really matters much to off-griddyness.

I understand the weirdness thing. I ended up in an old nunnery.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 20, 2011, 05:31:25 PM
I was thinking about a shipping container home. Some are pretty cool. I have a friend that is a master welder and he can do amazing shit with metal and we have a good source of cheap shipping containers from ADM.... next to nothing on the cost. Pretty much, you just weld them together in the pattern you want your house to look like, then you finish the insides with drywall and wood floors or whatever, and spray on stucco on the outside, or wood panel if thats your thing. I'm seriously considering building one of these if I can get off my ass and get motivated. It would definitely be for the off-grid purpose, way in the boonies if I did it.

Hardest part around here is getting the cheap wooded property you'd wanna build it on.


(http://www.instablogsimages.com/images/2009/06/15/shipping-container-homes_1_rObn5_69.jpg)


Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 21, 2011, 02:09:40 PM
That is pretty cool. Just think how cool and cheap and good houses could be without zoning laws and building codes. If you want to be innovative you have to live out in the boonies where no one sees you.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 21, 2011, 11:31:03 PM
For me, being off grid means a variety of things.  I usually think in woodsy terms.  But you could really be anywhere. 

Its not inconceivable that I could find a perfect place.  It doesn't mean I have to own it.  I could make some arrangements, and be very comfortable for a very long time, and own nothing at all.

That'd be off-grid, wouldn't it?

I think in slightly weirder terms than most.  I'm the kind of guy who would buy a lighthouse, and I'd probably get my ass crushed in it.

I'll know it when I see it.
I guess I see being dependent on the sewer and water system as a big hurdle for more urban type places to be off-grid. I have this issue right now, and it kind of bothers me.

I don't think ownership really matters much to off-griddyness.

I understand the weirdness thing. I ended up in an old nunnery.

Yeah, the sewer especially.  But I'm thinking about one person, and your considerations are for (more). 

I guess if you were really obsessed with it, you could have a contractor illegally install a sand mound.  Cisterns are easy.  I have an obsolete concrete septic tank buried in the back yard.  A little elbow grease and 40 ft of 6" pipe, I could be shittin pretty by tomorrow.  I'm assuming theres a buried well, too.  This place was built before the city water ran through.

You might have the same, since the place is pre-Depression. 



Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: blackie on May 22, 2011, 07:46:01 AM
Just think how cool and cheap and good houses could be without zoning laws and building codes. If you want to be innovative you have to live out in the boonies where no one sees you.
I don't know dude. The two places I have owned property there wasn't zoning, and no real building codes. The houses didn't seem cheaper or better....pretty much the same types of houses see everywhere.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: blackie on May 22, 2011, 08:29:47 AM
I guess if you were really obsessed with it, you could have a contractor illegally install a sand mound.  Cisterns are easy.  I have an obsolete concrete septic tank buried in the back yard.  A little elbow grease and 40 ft of 6" pipe, I could be shittin pretty by tomorrow.  I'm assuming theres a buried well, too.  This place was built before the city water ran through.

You might have the same, since the place is pre-Depression.  
The history on the place is a little bit weird. It was built in 1928-1929. I guess the Bishop of Portland got the diocese into millions of dollars of debt around the time he had this place built.

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John Gregory Murray (1925-1931)

Following the death of Bishop Louis Sebastian Walsh, Murray was appointed the fifth Bishop of Portland, Maine, by Pope Pius XI on May 29, 1925.[7] His installation took place at the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception on October 12 of that year.[7] During his five-year tenure in Portland, Murray established thirty new parishes and dedicated himself to Catholic education.[5] He also founded a diocesan weekly newspaper, Church World, in 1930.[5]

During the Great Depression, Murray organized relief committees to raise money for the homeless and unemployed families.[5] He was required to obtain loans and to mortgage church property to continue funding hospitals, orphanages, and other institutions.[5] Consequently, the diocese accumulated millions of dollars in debt.[5]


I don't think there is an old well or septic tank. If there is, it is under a parking lot, and I don't own most of that.

I've got about 1/3 of an acre. There is no zoning, so if I wanted to put in a sand mount/cistern, it probably wouldn't be illegal. The ground is mostly sand. I've got about 2000sf in the basement, so I was considering putting a 1000 gallon holding tank down there.

But my real goal is to find a bunch of land for sale in town(no zoning), in an ideal location. I've seen 150 acre tracks of land for under 100k. In my dream world I would be building an off grid place from scratch, and keeping the current place as an office or to run a business out of or whatever.

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on May 22, 2011, 04:30:43 PM
Just think how cool and cheap and good houses could be without zoning laws and building codes. If you want to be innovative you have to live out in the boonies where no one sees you.
I don't know dude. The two places I have owned property there wasn't zoning, and no real building codes. The houses didn't seem cheaper or better....pretty much the same types of houses see everywhere.
Maybe it's different in urban areas. Where I grew up people were building all kinds of crazy stuff before the developers started to have zoning there. Though not all of it was very good.
I would love to see someone plop down a earthship or geodesic dome right in the middle of a cookie cutter suburb.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 22, 2011, 05:09:52 PM
This, right here, would be my dream shipping container home.

Or something very similar.

Basically, 8 shipping containers, a metal roof and lots of glass. Not much too it.


(http://www.alldoing.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/shipping-container-house-plans-1.jpg)



(http://designcrave.frsucrave.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/12-container-house.jpg)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 22, 2011, 06:26:49 PM
that's fucking stupid
what if you're cocked up & wanna drive your '68 charger in the front door & out the back..?????hmmmmm?
you got these opposing dumass staircases obviously in the way
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on May 22, 2011, 06:32:07 PM
that's fucking stupid
what if you're cocked up & wanna drive your '68 charger in the front door & out the back..?????hmmmmm?
you got these opposing dumass staircases obviously in the way

Its enough room for a fuckin Harley. Dont bitch.

You wanna drive a truck through it, youre gonna have to do some amazing CHIP's TV show, up on  2 wheels move between the fuckers, cuz I aint movin em.  I will open the doors for you though.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on May 27, 2011, 12:55:08 AM
There is no zoning, so if I wanted to put in a sand mount/cistern, it probably wouldn't be illegal.



Usually, zoning or no-zoning, there is local ordinance of municipality whereby all residences who have sanitary sewer running across their frontage are required to attach. 

Of course, yours could be the exception to the rule.  The easy way to find out would simply be to ask the sewer authority.  Tell em, at the window, hello.  I'd like to enquirer about a sandmound permit at 420 Blackie Drive.  If they freak out, theres your answer.

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on May 27, 2011, 08:26:55 AM
just fucking DO it.

at night w/ headlamps or nite vision....tell the dump truck drivers to squelch their headlights @ a block away each time they bring a load of stone/sand

we built a big dry well w/ cinderblocks & crushed stone
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on July 21, 2011, 02:46:42 PM
I decided My wife's Golf should be one colour again. I thought I would make a little article on how I did it, for kicks. I would say criticisms and advice are welcome but hey this is the FTL BBS. I'll get em without asking I am sure.
These techniques are not for winning The Riddler but They work good enough to BS most people who don't look too closely. A while back Me and the ball-and-chain got slammed from the side from a little electric car. I have the maintenance book. German cars tend to be easy to take apart as long as you find the little "keys" and the inside door card was easy to remove following the instructions in the book. After accessing the doors inside, I carefully press popped the door back out pushing on the biggest surface I could by cutting little peaces of wood to fit. Basically I set it up carefully and popped it back out in one push. This is the best way to avoid wrinkling and tool marks. On the fender I had a little less luck and had to BS quite a bit with Bondo after I pushed it out a little using the trim mounting holes with bolts and accessing a little with a crowbar from the inside taillight access panel.
(http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/6408/fenderfiks1.jpg)
The results were thus after a very long break in the action. 2 huge underpaint rust spots appeared. I scraped off the paint and set water based rust eating solution on it overnight. It was pretty badly pitted when most of the rust and old paint was removed.
TIP: Before touching up a cars paint Do not wash it. Just clean the part you are going to work on. Overspray doesn't stick very well to dirt.
TIP: Be patient with the drying of the bondo and paints. It isn't worth it to hurry.
(http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/583/fenderfiks2.jpg)
(http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/696/fenderfiks3.jpg)
To hide the pitting I used a thin layer of bondo. I use old plastic containers for bondo. I cut out a little applicator to mix the goop and apply it, and a big flat one to use to trawl it off, You shouldn't leave more than you need unless you really like sanding.
Tip: When sanding, Trust the feeling in your fingers to find rough and smooth (you want smooth) you cant really see them.
Tip: Use sandpaper rapped around a small block of wood to smooth it over. Never sand with just your fingers in paper.
(http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8186/fenderfiks4.jpg)
Just before painting. Note I screwed up when I repainted the fender. I discovered another rust patch, down low. My original plan was to mask the door by itself and paint it from the trim down, (because this would have been the easiest way to hide the new paint)  but I had to redo the other sections.
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4060/fenderfiks5.jpg)
I am a minimalist with the primer. Both thin and only covering the naked metal. I like to use Rust-Oleum brand primer because, in my experience, it sticks and and can be stuck too very well and it inhibits rust.
(http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/2192/fenderfiks7.jpg)
I didn't fix the rust pitting in the inside of the door this photo is just to show the difference the bondo process does.
(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/3862/fenderfiks8.jpg)
I figure as long as I keep it dirty the repair will pretty much disappear. 8)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on July 21, 2011, 04:11:35 PM
dude, i ain't gonne bust your stones.......it's not a corvette, after all.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on July 21, 2011, 10:28:38 PM
Those types of buildings aren't very good for human living because there's too much air you'd have to condition either by electrical units or some solar (thermal) unit(s). Keep storage buildings for storage and make a human habitation nearby like everyone else has been doing since ancient Mesopotamia existed.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on July 21, 2011, 10:39:43 PM
Those types of buildings aren't very good for human living because there's too much air you'd have to condition either by electrical units or some solar (thermal) unit(s). Keep storage buildings for storage and make a human habitation nearby like everyone else has been doing since ancient Mesopotamia existed.

not if you bury the motherfucker...
but, i suppose, there goze the ambiance
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Level 20 Anklebiter on July 21, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
I remember one of the VPs for Beechcraft doing that. My dad told me about it, it was a garage in the basement where you got out on the side from an incline. Weird shit rich people love to have built. :3
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on July 23, 2011, 11:51:33 AM
Manuals and old school How-to books.
http://www.lindsaybks.com/ (http://www.lindsaybks.com/)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on July 27, 2011, 05:01:57 PM
I found a neat way of restoring the look of plastic windows, in my case on my camping trailer.
I sprayed with Armor All protectant and just let it soak without wiping. After a bit, I used some Turtle Wax Extreme car wax (The runny stuff) and rubbed it clean with a soft cotten rag. The window in the photo is 8 years old. I discovered this when I accidentally got some wax on one of the windows.
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5701/277201125.jpg)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on July 27, 2011, 05:10:45 PM
Damn Al - that's amazing!  Thanks!
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on July 29, 2011, 07:04:08 AM
I found a neat way of restoring the look of plastic windows, in my case on my camping trailer.
I sprayed with Armor All protectant and just let it soak without wiping. After a bit, I used some Turtle Wax Extreme car wax (The runny stuff) and rubbed it clean with a soft cotten rag. The window in the photo is 8 years old. I discovered this when I accidentally got some wax on one of the windows.
(http://img546.imageshack.us/img546/5701/277201125.jpg)



too bad those two white spots didn't come out
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on July 29, 2011, 07:17:18 AM
That's cum.
You see... I was really happy with the results.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on July 30, 2011, 03:31:24 PM
That's cum.
You see... I was really happy with the results.

The glow worries me

You better have a doctor check that out
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Brooklyn Red Leg on July 30, 2011, 06:36:54 PM
I found a neat way of restoring the look of plastic windows, in my case on my camping trailer.

That's cool. Looking into buying a used Truck Camper if I can and I'm sure any I find will have to be repair jobs.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Riddler on July 31, 2011, 07:59:11 AM
as an aside:
are you wearing a red dress dude?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on August 14, 2011, 03:38:46 PM
Orange moo-moo. Been getting heavy here lately.

(http://img823.imageshack.us/img823/2749/pullershims.jpg)

A little trick I found to loosen steering joints and the like. I have a bunch of 2" long 1.5" x 3/8" steel peaces I stole from the scrap bin at work. Anyway I found I could move the steering wheel to a position where I could make a little space filler between the joint and some sort of surface to press against then press out the tapered fitting using the retaining nut to press against the shims. I don't reccommend too much torque, just "enough" then use a bit of heat or hammer whacking to get 'em to pop.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on August 15, 2011, 05:38:57 PM
This little gadget is amazing for creating a source of clean drinking water. Doesn't matter whats in the water, besides radiation of course. If you use this on it, you can drink it......that simple. I picked one up just in case. After I played with it bit, I put it back in the box, where it will probably sit forever, unless there was some kind of emergency which required turning nasty water into clean drinking water.

All you do is put a few grains of salt, (table or rock) and a thimble worth of water in the top, press the power button, and it makes a "brine" that you pour into your source of water. After 15 min, its good to drink, no questions asked. After using this, you might want to use a pump filter of some kind to remove any sand or silt in the water, but its not imperative that you do that. It will just have sterilized dirt in it if you dont.

Im a gadget freak. I thought it was cool, so I bought one. Who knows, it might actually come in handy some day.


[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtHuV0mPXYQ[/youtube]
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on August 15, 2011, 05:51:39 PM
Anybody have a good recipe for prison wine I can mail to jail to Ian?

Just kidding, I would never mail to jail Ian.  :D
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on August 15, 2011, 06:09:23 PM
Hooch = orange juice + water + time = drunk ass Ian
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Trillian on August 15, 2011, 07:32:20 PM
needs yeast.  white bread will do
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on August 15, 2011, 07:52:31 PM
needs yeast.  white bread will do

Thanks for the correction.

I always forget the bread.

Speghetti night.........

"Did you get everything we need from the store?"

"Yep!"

"Did you get the bread?"

*long pause*........ "god damnit"
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on August 15, 2011, 07:55:57 PM
Pumpkin wine = Pumpkin (hollowed) + fill it full of sugar + time = Good Times Ian
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Trillian on August 15, 2011, 09:08:12 PM
needs yeast.  white bread will do

Thanks for the correction.

I always forget the bread.

Speghetti night.........

"Did you get everything we need from the store?"

"Yep!"

"Did you get the bread?"

*long pause*........ "god damnit"


:)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on August 15, 2011, 09:20:48 PM
needs yeast.  white bread will do

Thanks for the correction.

I always forget the bread.

Speghetti night.........

"Did you get everything we need from the store?"

"Yep!"

"Did you get the bread?"

*long pause*........ "god damnit"

sounds very familiar - especially on whisky nights!   :)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: anarchir on August 17, 2011, 11:21:06 PM
The last two Mad Max movies were playing on tv today. Watched em both while cleaning house.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on August 21, 2011, 04:46:21 PM
Redneck Restoration's "This Old Truck" 1957 GMC (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJl68ckmEt0#)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on August 23, 2011, 03:59:37 PM
How To Survive Total Economic Collapse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WGGLg7jsDw#ws)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on August 24, 2011, 04:53:18 PM
DIY: Oil Change on 2002 Honda XR650L (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjlfwacvwx4#ws)
Mechanical how to type videos by people in the liberty movement will get posted by me. One tip I might add is in weird filling places like that one I usually find a plastic bottle that has the sizes I need and cut the bottom out and use that as a funnel. Over the years I have used every kind of bottle imaginable. One time the wife's conditioner bottle fit the bill on a particularly bad place. Her conditioner was transferred to a soda bottle and I cut the filler hole in the side of the bottle instead of cutting the bottom off. (Transfer case in a 92 F-250 4x4) Remember when you are custom making a tool make it as easy to use as possible.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 03, 2011, 06:28:46 PM
Pallet Breakdown (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_fsPEzEg2o#)
My own sorry attempt at a how too video.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on September 03, 2011, 09:31:44 PM
Being little hard on yourself?


It wasn't that bad. The Deliverance music cut out a few times, but other than that, it was informative and clearly explained.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: BonerJoe on September 03, 2011, 10:56:24 PM
That's child abuse.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on September 03, 2011, 11:04:17 PM
That's child abuse.

So is your face.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on September 04, 2011, 12:05:40 AM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_fsPEzEg2o[/youtube]
My own sorry attempt at a how too video.

Its cool and all, but I don't understand what the purpose is.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 04, 2011, 05:39:59 AM
I appreciate the feedback. I will show uses and reasons in other videos. If I get so much better on the other videos and they don't match this one, I can reedit it.
Short answer for Dio: That storage shed in the beginning is made entirely of scrap.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 04, 2011, 09:32:55 AM
He finished installing that door I posted earlier.
(http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/2544/bilde0003.jpg)
(http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/8601/bilde0004.jpg)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 04, 2011, 09:12:05 PM
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_fsPEzEg2o[/youtube]
My own sorry attempt at a how too video.

Did you video the whole build of the shed or is the the start of another project?

Couple things I know about palettes.. don't use the wood in indoor fireplaces & check for nails and staples before cutting.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 05, 2011, 07:55:10 AM
Why not burn them in a indoor stove?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 05, 2011, 02:28:00 PM
You never know what's been stacked on em... some gooey toxic shit could be soaked in the wood and you may end up breathing the fumes when burned. Unless you have a sealed stove/good ventilation I guess.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 05, 2011, 04:52:21 PM
Good point. I'll put a warning of some sort on the "uses" video.
How did you end up on my ignore?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on September 05, 2011, 05:09:32 PM
Also, the buildup in the chimney or stove pipe of the chemicals in the treated wood can cause chimney fires down the road.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on September 05, 2011, 09:50:56 PM
Good point. I'll put a warning of some sort on the "uses" video.
How did you end up on my ignore?

Dunno! I saw someone had ignored me but I didn't click to see who. Prolly cause I was fuckin around.

quickmike's got a good point too.. especially if it's pine wood they've used.

**
Checked again. Says I'm ignored by only 1 person.. "Sutherland".
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 27, 2011, 04:15:48 PM
How To Shoot A Handgun Faster and More Accurately (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sA6HIvCzyeA#ws)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Laetitia on September 29, 2011, 02:26:14 PM
Contrary to every cop show and kick-ass heroine you've ever seen onscreen, low cut tops and firearms are not a good idea, at least not when you're really shooting.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Turd Ferguson on September 29, 2011, 02:42:55 PM
Contrary to every cop show and kick-ass heroine you've ever seen onscreen, low cut tops and firearms are not a good idea, at least not when you're really shooting.

What? You dont like sizzling hot casings in your cleavage?  :P
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on September 29, 2011, 03:08:23 PM
Yeah, I hate that.
That is why I use revolvers.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Laetitia on September 29, 2011, 10:12:58 PM
Contrary to every cop show and kick-ass heroine you've ever seen onscreen, low cut tops and firearms are not a good idea, at least not when you're really shooting.

What? You dont like sizzling hot casings in your cleavage?  :P

No, no, I do not.

At least I remembered to change out of open toe slingbacks this time... because a hot casing landing on foot is also unpleasant.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: John Shaw on September 29, 2011, 10:57:45 PM
Contrary to every cop show and kick-ass heroine you've ever seen onscreen, low cut tops and firearms are not a good idea, at least not when you're really shooting.

Titburns and toeburns are no fun.

Now, if you shoot a lot, one that you may find hard believe can eventually happen.

Historically (up until two years or so ago, when the prices went zany) I shot around 250 rounds per week.

That's a lot of chances for weird shit to go down.

I once had a .22 casing get part way up my nose. It fell out immediately.

The worst was a steel .45 super (Just like a .45 auto only much hotter loads) casing land and stick between my ear and head, like how blue collar smokers do with cigs. That's hard to pull off if you're wearing shooter's glasses, as there's already something in there.

By the time I felt the pain, it was sorta stuck there. Took a layer of skin but no permanent damage.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Laetitia on September 30, 2011, 07:49:14 AM
The worst was a steel .45 super (Just like a .45 auto only much hotter loads) casing land and stick between my ear and head, like how blue collar smokers do with cigs. That's hard to pull off if you're wearing shooter's glasses, as there's already something in there.

By the time I felt the pain, it was sorta stuck there. Took a layer of skin but no permanent damage.

Ouch! My 9mm burn mark doesn't seem bad at all now. Popped it out of my bra, shook my shirt, and it was over.

250?! I usually take in a box of ammo, use it, and buy new box on way home. If taking both handguns, I use about 1/2 each. I'm only able to make it a couple times a month, but I'd like to get up to having it be my regular Thursday thing. (Ladies day at range) It's fun to be needing fewer rounds to kill my zombies each time... though the S&W 40 is proving to be a challenge. Can't quite keep it steady, so I'm working on aiming slightly down and to the right to compensate. So far, so good. I can aim for the nose and shoot out an eye.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on October 01, 2011, 11:56:27 PM
The worst was a steel .45 super (Just like a .45 auto only much hotter loads) casing land and stick between my ear and head, like how blue collar smokers do with cigs. That's hard to pull off if you're wearing shooter's glasses, as there's already something in there.

By the time I felt the pain, it was sorta stuck there. Took a layer of skin but no permanent damage.

Ouch! My 9mm burn mark doesn't seem bad at all now. Popped it out of my bra, shook my shirt, and it was over.

250?! I usually take in a box of ammo, use it, and buy new box on way home. If taking both handguns, I use about 1/2 each. I'm only able to make it a couple times a month, but I'd like to get up to having it be my regular Thursday thing. (Ladies day at range) It's fun to be needing fewer rounds to kill my zombies each time... though the S&W 40 is proving to be a challenge. Can't quite keep it steady, so I'm working on aiming slightly down and to the right to compensate. So far, so good. I can aim for the nose and shoot out an eye.

At least you could shake that one out. I once had a casing bounce from the stall, and down my shirt. Burned for a bit, but I wasn't about to unbuckle my belt to get it out. It stayed in there till I went to the bathroom later in the day, when I had already forgot about it. That was a weird moment.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on October 09, 2011, 10:56:17 AM
I once had a piece of red hot welding slag find it's way down to my balls. Couldn't fuck properly for almost two days.
I have been thinking a lot about the future and options here are a few of the thoughts passing through my limited mind. Is the USA salvageable? What are the options?
http://sealionsfoundation.com/Home.php (http://sealionsfoundation.com/Home.php)
These guys seem savey but religious people make me nervous.
http://earthship.com/ (http://earthship.com/)
Smart, but goddamn hippies.
http://seasteading.org/ (http://seasteading.org/)
I think these guys are a lot of dreamers with very few doers. Why didn't they take possesion of that oil platform some company tried to give away a few years back?
(they had to scuttle it) Here is the FMR interview with a child.
Seasteading - The Next Wave of Freedom? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3axaN1ewHo#ws)
Then there are of course these guys who seem to believe they can get rid of the system by using it or getting their ass kicked by it. They also seem to enjoy infighting, which is very amusing but kind of counterproductive.
http://freestateproject.org/ (http://freestateproject.org/)
There is always here.
http://www.freestatewyoming.org/about-free-state-wyoming.html (http://www.freestatewyoming.org/about-free-state-wyoming.html)
Who?

.....
Go Ron Paul.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on October 18, 2011, 02:29:33 PM
MVI_0694.MOV (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVMWIhXWqGo#ws)
Neat little film showing a CNC mill making a aluminium nameplate.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on October 18, 2011, 05:24:33 PM
that was pretty cool....
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Cognitive Dissident on October 18, 2011, 07:18:06 PM
Hmm...did that in college...the name plate was plastic, though.  Did make a part out of aluminum, but it was dumb.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on October 21, 2011, 12:52:09 AM
Request to keep this thread and move it to the Guns section.

Deal?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on October 21, 2011, 06:11:57 PM
Request to keep this thread and move it to the Guns section.

Deal?

Just move it. :D
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on October 21, 2011, 07:13:59 PM
Request to keep this thread and move it to the Guns section.

Deal?

Just move it. :D

I can DIY it? How?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on October 22, 2011, 05:28:43 AM
You should have a "move topic" butten on the bottom of the page.
Only the thread starter and the mods can do it on any given thread.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Bill Brasky on October 22, 2011, 04:53:05 PM
Leave the redirect notice blank, and use the appropriate checkmarks for "no notification".  Otherwise, it'll leave a notice on the General board.  Which is stupid.

Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: mikehz on October 28, 2011, 01:22:54 AM
I'd suggest anyone planning on off-gridding get a ham radio and learn how to use it right. At least a 2-meter rig.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on October 28, 2011, 03:05:15 PM
Why? How? Links please.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Diogenes The Cynic on October 28, 2011, 06:29:35 PM
Can I get it to run on linux, and connect to the internet?
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on November 05, 2011, 02:55:20 AM
Prototype (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqd4hpfuojY#)
Sound is pretty horrible. Sorry.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on November 06, 2011, 03:47:52 PM
Make Ridiculously Cheap and Easy Utility Shelving (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhlLpG4zbAI#ws)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on November 23, 2011, 01:42:07 PM
http://shtfschool.com/about/ (http://shtfschool.com/about/)
Urban survival by someone who lived it.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: Fred on November 24, 2011, 09:51:42 AM
http://shtfschool.com/about/ (http://shtfschool.com/about/)
Urban survival by someone who lived it.
Excellent post - very informative.  Thanks Al!
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on November 24, 2011, 02:55:37 PM
My dad, who has been a avid survivalist for at least 38 years, sent me that link. I was surprised who wrote it. It is the craziest thing I ever read that seemed on the up and up. Very informative and practical to boot.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: hellbilly on December 12, 2011, 08:52:30 PM
http://shtfschool.com/about/ (http://shtfschool.com/about/)
Urban survival by someone who lived it.

Bookmarkin it.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on December 15, 2011, 07:21:32 AM
http://traffic.libsyn.com/ftl/FTL2011-12-14.mp3 (http://traffic.libsyn.com/ftl/FTL2011-12-14.mp3)
I found the interview with Mark and that Sealion character Joshua Daniels fascinating as hell. I highly recommend it. Begins at 2.04 approx.
My Dad, who I can't stress enough is one of the best and most experienced practical survivalist that I know of, said that their electrical equipment seemed a little pricey, but they seemed pretty knowledgeable.
http://sealionsfoundation.com/Home.php (http://sealionsfoundation.com/Home.php)
http://www.ericssoncouncil.org/ (http://www.ericssoncouncil.org/)

Speaking of my Dad, he Emailed me yet another handy practical link:
http://www.thepatriotnurse.com/ (http://www.thepatriotnurse.com/)
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on December 17, 2011, 09:34:20 AM
http://offgridsurvival.com/ (http://offgridsurvival.com/)
Article from this websight on FTL's startpage. I'll link it without too much review. Looks interesting.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on March 04, 2012, 04:45:33 PM
Simple Prototyping (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEWbI76EusM#)

Same video I posted earlier improved sound and updated.
Title: Re: Mad Max / Off the Grid tips n' tricks
Post by: alaric89 on August 24, 2012, 06:35:41 PM
Front Wheel Bearing Changing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GISw6KzufAI#)