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Title: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: John Shaw on February 07, 2012, 10:47:22 PM
*Sigh*

TV about people who make me ashamed to be into any sort of preparedness.

At least it looks like Honeyville and Emergency Essentials are getting plugs I guess.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: BonerJoe on February 07, 2012, 10:48:36 PM
I can't wait until MTV does that FSP documentary.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: John Shaw on February 07, 2012, 10:53:27 PM
I can't wait until MTV does that FSP documentary.


CORONAL MASS EJECTIONS They said it about 57,000 times.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 07, 2012, 11:07:37 PM
They need a new bubble after real estate collapsed.


Its the new thing. More shows will be coming soon.

Preppin' with the Kardashians

This Old Fallout Bunker

MRE's Miami
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: BonerJoe on February 07, 2012, 11:11:41 PM
I can't wait until MTV does that FSP documentary.

CORONAL MASS EJECTIONS They said it about 57,000 times.

I bet there a computer screen in the background with GLP on it somewhere. lol
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 07, 2012, 11:20:52 PM
I can't wait until MTV does that FSP documentary.

CORONAL MASS EJECTIONS They said it about 57,000 times.

I bet there a computer screen in the background with GLP on it somewhere. lol

I had no idea what GLP was until I googled and went there.

Holy shit.

First thread title that caught my eye......

HELL YEAH!! Sheriff Joe sets D-Day on Obama!! March 1, Obama is SCREWED!


Almost tempted to sign up and see how fast I can get kicked out. Almost.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 08, 2012, 10:57:41 PM
Well, like all TV, sensationalism is the win.

Same with the Alligator Clowns and Ice Road Pawnshop.

If they showed average people buying five bucks worth of Coleman propane once a month, it wouldn't be very exciting.

They did a show on History about some survivalist family, about a year ago, and it never caught on.  I thought it was pretty good, but it mostly involved this normal family jerry-rigging common stuff as they slowly slid off-grid. 

One of the episodes I caught was them making distilled alcohol.  They yucked it up as moonshine, and sipped a little to make good television...  But I think what they were learning to make was fuel.  They weren't drinkers.  All that effort for a couple sips of bug-juice?  No, bullshit.  Pure alcohol is ethanol, a clean fuel, a solvent, a way to trade agorist-style (money substitute). 

As my interest gained in this "reality television", I realized the family probably got more attention than they wanted, and then they realized it after the fact.  No different than most people who are into preparedness.  They probly banked a few bucks for supplies and GTFO'd of the show. 


Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: John Shaw on February 12, 2012, 02:11:03 PM
http://offgridsurvival.com/doomsdayprepperdeclaredmentaldefective/ (http://offgridsurvival.com/doomsdayprepperdeclaredmentaldefective/)

WHAT HAVE I BEEN FUCKING SAYING FOR YEARS NOW?

THE FIRST RULE OF FIGHT CLUB.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: BonerJoe on February 12, 2012, 02:25:29 PM
"Personally I think these shows are designed to make these people look crazy."

They just give attention whores what they want.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: John Shaw on February 12, 2012, 02:31:22 PM
They just give attention whores what they want.

Yeah I don't think that dude wanted a raid, lol.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: BonerJoe on February 12, 2012, 04:44:08 PM
They just give attention whores what they want.

Yeah I don't think that dude wanted a raid, lol.

He wanted attention. Most preppers are smart enough to keep their trap shut about it. He got his attention.

*shrug*
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 12, 2012, 10:24:07 PM
Theres a legitimate reason for people to show how-to methods.  Obviously.

Problem is, most of these people will have a home hoard that looks pretty whack to "normal people".

As opposed to the home hot-rod mechanic guru, who will have a workshop with fifty grand worth of custom junk and specific knowledge, but nobody thinks thats nuts.

Its perfectly reasonable to have fifty grand worth of Snap-On shit, so you can tweak an extra 0.6 seconds off your quarter mile.







Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: dalebert on February 12, 2012, 11:30:22 PM
\WHAT HAVE I BEEN FUCKING SAYING FOR YEARS NOW?

THE FIRST RULE OF FIGHT CLUB.

But aren't you saying it here?
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: John Shaw on February 12, 2012, 11:54:53 PM
But aren't you saying it here?

Not really. Not in such a way that would make me a target. I never say anything (Or to be honest, think much even) that'd get me in any more trouble than any of the tens of thousands of users on any gun forum like Glocktalk etc. If anything, my reputation with local authorities is better than average and I work to keep it that way. Hell, I've trained (somewhat now) local cops how to use guns safely.

I've never ever given specifics about "what" and "where", and also I'm on record here as a specific non-law breaker. I play by all the little rules and am pretty obsessed about crossing T's and dotting I's.

I just talk about what does and does not seem to be good ideas, and show examples of some of the stuff a person can do in regards to preparedness.

Hell, the vast majority of my posts on the subject are about where you can buy stuff.

So I'm not worried about gooberment people beyond the average liberty person, and as for becoming a high value target if any real shit goes down, heh, I'm not worried about that at all. Apart from a few trustworthy people my only address is P.O. Box XXXX, Belleville, Mi, 48111, and I don't live in Belleville. Our change of addy went to the P.O. box when we moved. A traceroute dead ends fifteen miles North of us.

<<<Upstanding citizen with "nothing to hide". Doesn't even smoke or drink and has bibles on his shelves. "Worst" books you'll find are Ayn Rand and Claire Wolfe. Of course I try to interact with people who will cause me to get irritable (Like many gooberment types) as little as possible, but just about every Joe Schmoe does that.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 13, 2012, 12:07:44 AM
I don't think government inspection or involvement is the issue.  Its the interest of local peeps who would be pounding your door during SHTF scenarios.

That has been a classic fear since the fifties, when people were building fallout shelters. 

They did it "in the dark" because they didn't want their friends to know.  It would be a heartbreaker to turn them away.

Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2012, 12:20:02 AM
I don't think government inspection or involvement is the issue.  Its the interest of local peeps who would be pounding your door during SHTF scenarios.

That has been a classic fear since the fifties, when people were building fallout shelters. 

They did it "in the dark" because they didn't want their friends to know.  It would be a heartbreaker to turn them away.

That's sorta my point, and I totally agree. We have two neighbor houses that we've met and spoken to. We've never even met the people who live directly behind us. The people next door have an understanding with us in regards to this sort of stuff. The people two houses down have Ron Paul and "End the Fed" signs all over their lil' farm and run a Jesus-Please-Us home school book store out of an out building. They aren't rude but aren't chummy. Their kids have dropped by a couple times looking for cats and the occasional loose turkey or goat. They always say "God bless you!" and have cheery smiles.

If anyone in the neighborhood is gonna get hit it's them. Our house is boring and plain as fuck for a reason. I spent a two years trying to get the house purchase right. Of course I may have ended up being wrong, but by gawd I worked my ass off to get everything that was important to me "Just so". As a matter of fact, even if you have our address the house is hard to find without a GPS, even tho it's on a large, paved, high traffic road.

And of course you know one of our alternative home sites because you've been there. "Off the beaten path." doesn't even begin to describe it and I'm sure you'd agree, heh. At least until the goddamned thing sells.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: Turd Ferguson on February 13, 2012, 12:25:45 AM
I sometimes wonder what I'd do in a serious SHTF type deal, when all my relatives who laugh at the idea of even storing some extra food for emergency come a runnin'.

Pretty hard to turn them away, but what else ya gonna do?
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2012, 12:35:51 AM
I sometimes wonder what I'd do in a serious SHTF type deal, when all my relatives who laugh at the idea of even storing some extra food for emergency come a runnin'.

Pretty hard to turn them away, but what else ya gonna do?

Yeah we don't have that problem. My father lives ten minutes away and doesn't know my address. My sister about fifteen minutes away and ditto on the addy. My mother lives in Grosse Ile (An island of mostly rich people with two bridges, one of which is a private, often guarded toll bridge) and is filthy rich. She doesn't need me and knows that I wouldn't piss on her if she were on fire. If she needed to hit the road she could jet off from the lil' airport on the island or take their rather fucking huge boat to just about any place from the boat club. (http://elba-mar.com/ (http://elba-mar.com/))

Mel just has her brother and his nuclear family. They'd probably be too busy kissing whatever local warlord's ass who takes near them or running to the piggies looking for help or going to their church.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 13, 2012, 12:46:05 AM


And of course you know one of our alternative home sites because you've been there. "Off the beaten path." doesn't even begin to describe it and I'm sure you'd agree, heh. At least until the goddamned thing sells.

Ace in the hole.

For the record, I want that motherfucker.  I wouldn't haggle on the asking price (much).  I think it's perfect in the larger sense. 

My only problem with it is, it's cold up there.  And thats a deal-breaker, for me.  I just can't hack that shit.  I'm a desert rat. 

Of course, cold is the perfect Napoleonic defense.  I'm just a pussy about it.

Preparedness is really not an easy concept.  It requires discussion because theres always something to be learned.  Being neighborly is just not an option.  They'll eventually whittle you down, or rat you out.  Its unlikely that you'll be in a mutually beneficial relationship with devastated people. 

I think that is one of the few benefits of an online life, making contacts and so-forth.  I wouldn't want much to do with my neighbors..  But if I had my shit together, I'd probably make an effort to contact JohnShaw! and his awesome lady, in the post-apocalyptic world.

It probably wouldn't be to trade or barter or ask or beg.  More like, just to "ping" him.  Yo, whassup.  Dudes still alive over here.  The survivor network. 

Not much different than I'm doing now, actually.



Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: John Shaw on February 13, 2012, 01:06:23 AM
Yeah I have a list of people in my head that I'd attempt to contact were turds to strike the turbine...

As for the property it's still for fuckin' sale. Mel's bro has been pretty sketchy about it all because he's afraid of his uncle's pissyness.
Title: Re: Fucking shit, just watched the first episode of "Doomsday Preppers"
Post by: Bill Brasky on February 13, 2012, 01:45:47 AM
Conversationally..  if I were you, I'd probably want to buy it. 

But it seems like it could be a bit of a bone in the throat of the other family peeps. 

Sometimes its better left alone, I'd be the type to buy the place up the road just so's nobody could stick their dick in the gears.

I really did like how the ol' man set it up, though.  To me, that is paradise.  (again, minus the cold).

--


I'm kinda familiar with a sorta-similar situation.  My X's family has a nice plot (but much smaller) up in Nowhere.  But there's four of them, and they're assholes about it. 

I'm not being a vulture about it. 

The X's mom is still alive (very much so) but has no clue how to handle rural life.  The old man died.  The four kids will squabble til the end of days over it, they want it given to them.   

I'm half tempted to make an offer, but it would cause so much shit, I'd never hear the end of it.  The Old Man had it appraised at a ridiculous price for insurance purposes, and now the dullard wife thinks thats actually how much it's worth. 

I say it's worth about 40k.  They think a hundred.  Its a trailer on a solid-poured double-thick concrete foundation.  The thing's a fuckin' bunker.  You could just rip the trailer off and erect a trailer-shaped log home for approximately zero dollars.

But because of the asshole factor, I'll never do anything more than speculate the potential.  Its a good spot that will decay into worthlessness.

Its a real shame.