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blackie

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Re: Zug info for Brasky
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2008, 04:15:04 PM »

I wouldn't mind it.  I already live alone, so its just trading one place for the other.  What attracts me to it is you could be here one month, there the next, and so on.  They say its pretty safe as long as you stick to the US coast.  Theres lots of little spots down int he Keys, and all along the inside of the gulf.  Just shouldn't stray down towards Haiti, Mexico, or Central and the various caribbian isles. 
I wouldn't want to be sailing alone on a decent sized boat. Getting hurt or sick at sea would suck. I like the buddy system.

http://www.yachtpiracy.org/en/the_new_peril.htm
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How many pirate attacks happen?

During the last years the number of attacks on yachts has dramatically increased. However, there are few reports about piracy in sailing magazines nor in reports of national cruising clubs like TO (Trans Ocean, Germany), SSCA (Seven Seas Cruising Association, USA) or OCC (Offshore Cruising Club, England). It is a kind of taboo which apparently doesn’t fit into the image of an intact world of bluewater sailors.
The number of yachts being attacked is unknown as is the number of yachts crossing the Seven Seas. Not many sailors believe in authorities being of help so they don’t bother to inform the Police or the Coast Guard. Other skippers and crew suffer from traumatic experiences and are not willing to talk about their encounter with pirates. In addition there is quite a number of yachts that have disappeared and nobody knows what has happened. The estimated number of unreported cases is believed to be high. I reckon that since 1996 the total number of yachts being attacked is approximately 300.
300 since 1996 sounds like a pretty small number to me.
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blackie

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« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2008, 06:21:44 PM »

300 since 1996 sounds like a pretty small number to me.

Dude, thats like one every ten days.  (Figuring it was written around a year ago).
My guess is I have a better chance of being robbed on the street, or shot by cops, or dying in a car accident.

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Re: Zug info for Brasky
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2008, 10:24:23 PM »

300 since 1996 sounds like a pretty small number to me.

Dude, thats like one every ten days.  (Figuring it was written around a year ago).
My guess is I have a better chance of being robbed on the street, or shot by cops, or dying in a car accident.



Chances of being killed for a boat increase dramatically when you are not in Kansas. 
From my understanding, most of the pirate attacks don't result in death. It also seems like many of them are done by someone invited onto the boat.

But you are right, it is mostly a localized threat. There are places to avoid.

But it even happens in the US.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27114432/
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Former child actor admits killing couple for yacht
Tom and Jackie Hawks were tied to anchor and thrown overboard to deaths


For nearly four years, Ryan and Matt Hawks have felt certain that a former small-time child actor masterminded the vicious murder of their parents, who were tied to the anchor of their yacht and thrown to their deaths in the Pacific Ocean off Catalina Island.

The brothers sat in the TODAY studio in New York Friday with the show’s co-host, Meredith Vieira, and looked at photographs of their father, Tom Hawks, and stepmother, Jennifer Hawks, tanned and smiling aboard the “Well Deserved,” the 55-foot yacht they had saved a lifetime to buy.

Two days earlier, the attorney for Skylar Deleon, who once had a non-speaking bit part in “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers,” admitted in an Orange County, Calif., courtroom that Deleon was the mastermind of the plot to murder the Hawks and steal their yacht. The admission was made during opening arguments in the trial, which is no longer about whether Deleon did it, but what his sentence should be: death, or life behind bars.

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Tom Hawks had planned for most of his life to retire on a yacht with his second wife, Jackie. A body builder and probation officer, he realized his dream while still in his mid-50s.

After cruising the Pacific Ocean and the Sea of Cortez off Mexico for two years, the Hawks had decided to sell their boat to move back to Arizona, where they could be closer to their first grandson. Their sons, Matt and Ryan, looked forward to having them back home and sharing their lives with them.

“They realized there was more to life than this boat and seeing the curve of the earth, and that’s what really made them want to sell the boat and come back and be a part of our lives, and especially part of their grandson’s life,” Ryan Hawks told Vieira.

He last talked to his parents by phone on Nov. 14, 2004, the day they disappeared. “I was flying to Seattle for work,” Ryan Hawks said. “It was on the last voyage of ‘Well Deserved.’ I kind of pushed them off the phone; I was running late for a plane. I just felt bad. I had no idea that was the last time I’d talk to them.”

On that day, Tom, 57, and Jackie, 47, set sail for Catalina Island on a test cruise with Skylar Deleon and two other men, John Fitzgerald Kennedy and Alonso Machain. Deleon was a smooth-talking 29-year-old career criminal who bragged about being a former child television star who wanted to buy the boat. In reality, Deleon had had just one non-speaking bit part in 1994 on “Mighty Morphin Power Rangers,” and had been in trouble almost ever since. He introduced Kennedy and Machain as his accountants.

Thieves fall out
Machain admitted his role in 2005 and is awaiting sentencing. Kennedy is to be tried next year. The fourth member of the plot, Deleon’s former wife, Jennifer Henderson, was convicted of two counts of first-degree murder last year and will spend the rest of her life in prison.

When the Hawks never returned from the trip, Newport Beach police zeroed in on Deleon and his three accomplices, who claimed that the couple sold the yacht to them for $440,000. When one of the suspects confessed, the plot quickly unraveled and the gruesome details of the double homicide came out.

According to that confession, after overpowering the Hawks with a stun gun, the conspirators forced them to sign over title to the yacht. Then, duct-taped together and tied to an anchor, they were thrown into the ocean to drown. Their bodies were never recovered.

Now Ryan and Matt Hawks just want to see justice served on Deleon, who, according to his own lawyer, Gary Pohlson, also killed another man in 2003. Deleon committed that murder when he was on work furlough from a sentence he was serving for burglary.

Pohlson told the jury Tuesday that his purpose in admitting Deleon is guilty was to save his client from the death penalty.

Justice at last
Matt Hawks said when he heard Pohlson’s statement, “I was kind of relieved in a way, just [at] the thought that they’re admitting guilt. It’s been four years; it’s been a long time. I’m looking forward to this trial, and I’m sure the jurors will make the correct decision.”

“It did provide some closure,” added Ryan Hawks, who is putting off starting a full-time job so that he can attend Deleon’s trial. But, he pointed out, “It was just the opening arguments, and the jury can’t take that into consideration.”

Ryan Hawks said it isn’t easy being at the trial and hearing again about the murders. But, he told Vieira, “It’s important to us as a family, because this is the last thing we’ll ever get to do for our parents. And as much as it hurts, we just need to be there and represent them. We’re a true testament to our parents’ parenting, and we feel it’s necessary.”

Matt Hawks said the hardest part for him is thinking about what he and his two children are missing. “It’s just been very difficult,” he said. “I’m raising two beautiful children now. And I don’t have the grandparents so that they can share their lives with them. It’s just very hard not having them around to share the best part of our life, and the best part of our family’s life with them.”

Both brothers said their parents had talked about their plans to sell the yacht and move back home. The parents mentioned that the man who wanted to buy it was a former child star, but neither of the two sons had ever watched “Power Rangers,” so they weren’t especially impressed.

“I was just happy they were selling the boat and coming back to spend a lot more time with [their grandchildren],” Matt Hawks recalled. “They’d be much more grounded with my family. We’d be able to travel out to see them, as I was able to back when I didn’t have children.

“I was looking forward to them coming home.”
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Re: Zug info for Brasky
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2008, 10:49:31 PM »

Whenever I hear "Zug" I think of Zug Island. It's in Detroit.

Here's a pic.



It's not a particularly pleasant place.
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« Reply #19 on: October 23, 2008, 10:50:18 PM »

Thats not a pirate attack.  That was murder, the motivator just happened to be a boat. 
What have you been saying pirates do?

Steal your boat and murder you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piracy
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Piracy is robbery committed at sea, or sometimes on shore, without a commission from a sovereign nation (as distinct from privateering, robbery with sovereign commission).

Sounds like piracy to me.
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« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2008, 11:22:41 PM »

Whenever I hear "Zug" I think of Zug Island. It's in Detroit.

Here's a pic.



It's not a particularly pleasant place.

Whenever I hear 'Zug' I think of orcs.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=zug-zug
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« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2008, 11:24:40 PM »

There was a fairly well known radio guy/drug dealer when I was in high school called Zug Island Rick.

He was an asshole, as I recall.
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« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2008, 11:25:50 PM »

There was a fairly well known radio guy/drug dealer when I was in high school called Zug Island Rick.

He was an asshole, as I recall.

The majority of drug dealers are.
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« Reply #23 on: April 26, 2009, 05:56:34 PM »

Seems like a lot of trouble to sneak somewhere and sneak back again, when you could come in legally and still sneak, but without the extra-sneakiness. 

Underground is underground.  If you got busted in a country you were stamped for, you could just claim to be a loafing, shiftless idiot.  But if you got busted in a country when your last known stamp was for a neighboring country, theres a little bit more 'splainin to do, Lucy. 

Is there a real good reason to do this, maybe I'm just not seeing the obvious. 
I just don't want to leave a paper trail if I know I'm going to be breaking the rules.


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Sailboat, I'm down with that.  Its a major component of one of my master plans (I have several, each slightly ridiculous).  Problem with sailboats is you need to know how to sail.  Its not exactly cake.  Sailing is some complicated shit.  However, I apply the basic rule to it:  A million people do it, I can too.  When (if) buying a boat, be prepared to drop a grand on someone who knows sailing.  Unless you have a competent sailing friend who will spend a few weeks teaching you everything he knows for free, of course. 

Other bad thing about sailing (and boats in general) is pirates.  You get into the blue water, you can actually get hijacked.  Its really not uncommon in the Caribbean.  This is why you'll occasionally see caravans of sailing boats, safety in numbers.  Kinda like truckers will run in packs on highways.  They don't know each other, they just gang up on a run.  You can get scoped from wayyyy the fuck out when sailing, followed for many hours or a few days.  Boats are expensive, fetch a nice paycheck, and sail a long way from where they were grabbed. 
I don't think I would worry very much about being hijacked. Sure it could happen. I wouldn't have the nicest boat around. I would want it to be seaworthy, but I'm not looking to impress the guys at the yacht club.

My biggest fear about sailing, and living on a boat is the weather. It can turn from a beautiful day into a shit storm before you know what hit you.

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