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Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« on: January 09, 2008, 12:39:15 PM »

Why do you think Ron Paul didn’t get didn’t the electoral success he ought to of in the New Hampshire primaries.

Was simply lack of votes or the election was rigged? Was it media bias which influenced voters? Was it too much support from bunker down patriots & not enough support from the mainstream?

Why did Ron Paul lose & what could be learnt from him losing?
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2008, 12:42:55 PM »

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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2008, 12:45:57 PM »

The lesson is simple – selling liberty to United Statists – which make up 90% of the electorate – is as pointless as selling sexual abstainace to horny teenagers. 
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2008, 02:32:44 PM »


I blame Mark.




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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 02:35:37 PM »


I blame Mark.


Mark is the one on whom the sole blame should lie. He promised to deliver New Hampshire. Thus, no reason for anyone to vote. Mark had it taken care of. Mark let you down.
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 03:02:14 PM »

I can't help but blame the voters.  I would like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, assume that they're rational individuals open to logical and empirical arguments, but what I suspect is that we will not have liberty until all liberty lovers are separated from the statists, who only respond to emotional appeals.  Christ, I read an article which accounted Hillary's surge to her (almost) crying on TV.  Voters were literally saying that her BAWWWW swayed them from voting for Obama.  I think this demonstrates that the FSP is the best idea for achieving liberty.

I've always suspected most people were fucking idiots, but always withheld judgement.  This confirms it. 

I'm still optimistic in the long term.  Ron has done more for liberty than anyone who is currently alive.  I think that this is the last election where the MSM will hold the most significant control.  Once the internet truly takes over as a news source, statists beware.
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 04:35:02 PM »

I blame god.
Damn you god! DAMN YOU TO THE HELL YOU CREATED!!!
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 05:23:33 PM »

I didn't give it my 100% all. . . therefore I will always find myself partially to blame. . . if I had given 100% and still he got 8000 votes. . . then fine.

I'll try not to let that happen again.
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2008, 05:37:27 PM »


I've always suspected most people were fucking idiots, but always withheld judgement.  This confirms it. 

As its often said...idiots vote
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #9 on: January 09, 2008, 06:07:39 PM »

I can't help but blame the voters. 
It's not my fault....I didn't vote  :P
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2008, 06:43:06 PM »


I blame Mark.


Mark is the one on whom the sole blame should lie. He promised to deliver New Hampshire. Thus, no reason for anyone to vote. Mark had it taken care of. Mark let you down.

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2008, 06:46:38 PM »

It's really difficult for an honest man to compete against lying politicians who knowingly make promises they cannot possibly keep. "Vote for me, and I'll give you free goodies," is a powerful message to many people.

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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2008, 07:51:51 PM »

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I think this demonstrates that the FSP is the best idea for achieving liberty. 

I was with you up until that. 

The FSP is a dismal failure.  And will be, because no matter how many people you get there, they will still be a very tiny minority, and everything they do and try will be stomped down by the statists. 

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I'm still optimistic in the long term. Ron has done more for liberty than anyone who is currently alive. 

You're absolutely right.   And that's truly sad and disgusting.  He's done more for liberty than anyone else in our lifetimes, and he gets 8%. 


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« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2008, 08:10:43 PM »

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I think this demonstrates that the FSP is the best idea for achieving liberty. 

I was with you up until that. 

The FSP is a dismal failure.  And will be, because no matter how many people you get there, they will still be a very tiny minority, and everything they do and try will be stomped down by the statists. 

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I'm still optimistic in the long term. Ron has done more for liberty than anyone who is currently alive. 

You're absolutely right.   And that's truly sad and disgusting.  He's done more for liberty than anyone else in our lifetimes, and he gets 8%. 

I've been reading a few of your posts, I can see how angry you are at all of this.  I am trying to be optimistic, but I am also angry as hell.  Not at Ron or his campaign and supporters, but at the knuckle-dragging imbeciles who represent 95% of the population.  My feeling is that these people don't deserve Ron Paul, they do not deserve liberty.  They deserve all the government they're going to get.  A part of me really just wants to say "fuck you" to all of these people.  I wish we liberty lovers could just leave the planet and settle the moon or something, and leave the rest of the population to stew in the shit pile they have created.
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Re: Why Did Ron Paul Lose New Hampshire
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2008, 11:18:21 PM »

I can't help but blame the voters.  I would like to give everyone the benefit of the doubt, assume that they're rational individuals open to logical and empirical arguments[snip]

I've always suspected most people were fucking idiots, but always withheld judgement.  This confirms it. 
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H.L. MENCKEN:

The fact is that the average man's love of liberty is nine-tenths imaginary, exactly like his love of sense, justice and truth. He is not actually happy when free; he is uncomfortable, a bit alarmed, and intolerably lonely. Liberty is not a thing for the great masses of men. It is the exclusive possession of a small and disreputable minority, like knowledge, courage and honor. It takes a special sort of man to understand and enjoy liberty — and he is usually an outlaw in democratic societies.
Baltimore Evening Sun (12 February 1923)

When a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or be lost... All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.' The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.
Baltimore Sun (26 July 1920)

Most people want security in this world, not liberty.

What men value in this world is not rights but privileges.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want, and deserve to get it good and hard.
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