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« Reply #60 on: December 01, 2008, 08:10:44 PM »

I ordered a whiskey and coke when i was at the bars last.

can't drink that nor any liquor straight.

I like to get a hard seven seven.

I don't like vodka straight but I do like to drink a good whiskey or tequila straight up. But not like a quick shot. I like to take a drink at a time to get the full flavor.
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« Reply #61 on: December 01, 2008, 08:33:15 PM »



seems to me the guy wants to live his life, do his thing, and be left the hell alone.  i see zero problems with that lifestyle.

Of course you wouldnt........................... godless heathen!!!!!


You need to find Jesus and accept him into your life and realize that MANS laws are also Jesus laws as well, even if we change our laws all the time. Hey, Jesus can change his mind too ya know.


UP WITH HOPE........... DOWN WITH DOPE ( and booze too)
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« Reply #62 on: December 01, 2008, 09:18:45 PM »

UP WITH HOPE........... DOWN WITH DOPE ( and booze too)

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seems to me the guy wants to live his life, do his thing, and be left the hell alone.  i see zero problems with that lifestyle.

I always end up comparing most social issues with moonshining because it has all the issues all wrapped up in one package. The only damage done by moonshining was done after prohibition, when profits soared due to it being so scarce. People then began to throw all sorts of shit in the mix to cut corners on supplies, save time and still produce a buzz. A lot of that stuff was sold as "nigger gin" in the ghettos of Atlanta. Turpentine, paint thinner - all sorts of nasty shit. No doubt people died before due to carelessness over indulgence, but you know what I mean.

The feds began tracking large orders of sugar and corn, harassing mountain folks to squeal on their neighbors, chasing & shooting moonshiners, destroying stills & and the booze upon discovery, throwing people in jail, issuing fines, seizing weapons - all because they were losing out on tax revenue.

All of that can be applied to current events, and as we can see, the Feds are winning big time. Moonshining is still being done, but on a far lesser scale than even just a few years ago. All that's left now is word of mouth if you're looking to find any, which is tough becasue no one knows how to make it today, is too scared to, or doesn't have room to.
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« Reply #63 on: December 01, 2008, 10:18:36 PM »

I just read another article about that arrest- his sentencing was rescheduled to Dec. 15th 208 - right around the corner. The media is performing it's typical spin, painting him as a dangerous outlaw who deliberately defies the laws of the people..

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Judge Greer OKs

Defense Motion;

Date Now Dec. 15

By BILL JONES

Staff Writer

The sentencing of Cocke County moonshiner Marvin "Popcorn" Sutton has been delayed until Dec. 15.

Sutton had been scheduled to be sentenced on Sept. 22 in U.S. District Court in Greeneville, but U.S. District Judge Ronnie Greer on Tuesday granted a defense motion to continue the sentencing to a later date. He reset Sutton's sentencing hearing for 1:30 p.m. on Dec. 15.

Sutton, 61, of 324 Upper Road, Parrottsville, had waived indictment and pleaded guilty in April to a two-county federal information that charged him with:

* possessing a .380-caliber semi-automatic pistol and a .38-caliber revolver (after having been convicted of numerous felonies); and

* producing distilled spirits by distillation from mash and other material.

The motion for a continuance of the sentencing hearing to a later date was filed by Assistant Federal Defender Tim S. Moore.

The motion said Sutton had recently received the probation officer's response to Sutton's objections to the pre-sentence report in his case.

"Sutton needs additional time for investigation and research to determine if further objections are called for to the revised pre-sentence report, to determine if any further response to the revised pre-sentence report is required, and to prepare for sentencing," the motion said.

Sentencing Memorandum

Sutton was manufacturing hundreds of gallons of moonshine in Cocke County when he was arrested, according to a sentencing memorandum filed by Assistant U.S. Attorney Robert Reeves.

In addition, the sentencing memorandum notes, Sutton "was in possession of multiple firearms after having been convicted of numerous felonies."

"What aggravates these circumstances even more is the fact that Sutton was on probation in Tennessee state court for felony possession of untaxed liquor when the present offense was committed," the government's sentencing memo to the court notes.

"Sutton had been sentenced to two years of unsupervised probation for the state felony charges. This probation did not stop or even slow Sutton's illegal activities."

Sutton's Background

In 1975, Sutton was convicted of numerous federal charges relating to the manufacturing and possession of an unregistered still, distilling apparatus and untaxed liquor, according to the sentencing memo. "He was given probation," the sentencing memo notes.

In 1980, Sutton was convicted of a felony drug offense and was again given a five-year suspended sentence.

He was sentenced to prison for the first time in 1985 on a conviction for an assault with a deadly weapon with intent to kill, the government's sentencing memo states.

"Since that time," the memo says, "he has been arrested on misdemeanor alcohol violations in North Carolina, felony untaxed liquor violations in Tennessee (mentioned above), and four offenses that were dismissed including burglary, larceny, and alcohol-related offenses."

Moonshine Videos Cited

The government's sentencing memo notes that federal authorities have downloaded videos on the Internet that Sutton made, including "one on how to manufacture alcohol and one of Sutton bragging about his possession of firearms."

Sutton, according to the government's sentencing memo, "has lived his life without respecting the law by committing violent and controlled substances offenses in addition to his numerous alcohol-related offenses."

"Sutton seems to be proud of his disregard for the law, and no sentence thus far has deterred him from his continuing criminal activities," the government sentencing memo states.
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« Reply #64 on: December 02, 2008, 08:18:53 AM »

Nothing to add here except that Makers is truly the nectar of the gods. 
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« Reply #65 on: December 02, 2008, 09:51:31 PM »

I am brewing some beer right now. I have enjoyed brewing for about two years now, and I am looking forward to the day when I can turn out a good enough mash to make it worth distilling. That is when I get the proper permits ;)

Really I imagine this whole history goes back one way or another to the whiskey rebellion.
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« Reply #66 on: December 02, 2008, 10:40:32 PM »

I think you can still drink the mash if all the "goop" has settled to the bottom.

Really I imagine this whole history goes back one way or another to the whiskey rebellion.

Which history do you mean?
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« Reply #67 on: December 12, 2008, 09:07:45 PM »

Found a really good one this time:


Not too spicy, smells great, tastes sweet (has a little "fruitiness") and just the right amount of peat for my tastes. Really good- and the cost was about $25. Not bad a'tall- I'll be buying more of this.


I also bought this for my gf:


It's surely not a drink for the diabetics.. much too sweet for me- but it's goooood!


Picked up some Jack Daniels too just in case the Lismore didn't work out. That stuff's always a safe bet.
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« Reply #68 on: December 13, 2008, 01:40:15 AM »

Yep. The Lisomre is still tasty even now.
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« Reply #69 on: December 27, 2008, 11:21:11 PM »

So I hear Popcorn Sutton's trial is to be continued until Jan. 26 2009, and so far it looks like he'll be put away for 2 1/2 years. Also heard he's been under house arrest for the last 10 months..

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« Reply #70 on: March 03, 2009, 01:04:49 AM »

Old Weller Antique



Got this one today for about $20. Usually a screw-on cap instead of a cork is a bad sign.. but this is some really good stuff!

107 Proof, so it burns a bit on the way down- but not too badly. Along with a full bourbon taste, there's also something like raisins and vanilla. It's sweet- too sweet for me but only because I'm a diabetic and sensitive to sugary tastes, but I'm sure for most folks it's just fine. Nowhere near as sweet as Southern Comfort by the way.
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« Reply #71 on: July 20, 2009, 06:26:24 PM »

Aaahh.. Scotch whisky. Cooked up in small, family owned distilleries in quaint countryside settings. Recipes handed down for generations, preservation of traditions. Not really. It's mass produced these days just like anything else (mostly). Most of the barley used for the whiskies distilled in Scotland is imported even.

Diageo produces Johnny Walker, Guiness, Baileys and a bunch of other shit. Anyway, the economic trouble has hit this industry too.

http://www.packagingnews.co.uk/news/917252/Diageo-cut-700-packing-jobs-Scottish-plant-closure/

And..

Tullamore Dew - good stuff!
Powers Gold Label - didn't like it on ice
Makers Mark - hadn't tried it in years, it's still too syrupy
Glenfiddich - most reviewers say this stuff is the best. I say it's OK.
Red Stag (a Jim Beam product I think) - godawful sweet.

Further notes on the Old Weller - it's fightin' whisky. Gets the job done if you need to become drunk quickly and act like a hooligan (as in preparation for a fight). I don't really like it much anymore.
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« Reply #72 on: July 20, 2009, 06:30:48 PM »

I gotta try this Tullamore Dew
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« Reply #73 on: July 20, 2009, 08:28:38 PM »

It ain't really unique in a specific way- just all around "good"!
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« Reply #74 on: July 22, 2009, 10:49:58 PM »

Tullamore is an Irish, not a Scotch.

Makers Mark is a bourbon. 

I take some disagreement with the comment about Scotches being mass produced.  The aged labels are what they are.  They might produce more then they did, but I wouldn't call it mass-produced.  They've learned to maximize the casking space, but you can only pile up so many barrels.  Barrels have to be turned.  All these places offer tours, they're old school places, not big factories. 

There are some genuine scotches that suck, but they've always sucked.  Good ones haven't ramped up their production and started using shoddy product and shitty ingredients.  I can assure you, that is not how Scotch works.  Theres too many bastards observing the process.  Scotch-snobs, they'd know if they started using diesel forklifts. 
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