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Title: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 26, 2011, 08:19:11 PM
He either got himself laid, or has a speech coach working with him. Maybe just doesn't give a f--k anymore. Who knows.


I just saw him on Napoletano's Freedom Watch. He is speaking clearly, not stuttering and stammering all over the place like I've seen him do so many times in the past. Same deal on 2 other news shows today. Cool as a cucumber.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 26, 2011, 09:34:38 PM
He was the Monday guest on Stephen Colbert, which should be viewable on Comedycentral-dotcom, if you know how to navigate to full episodes of Colbert. 

Pretty good.  He's actually getting into the bare-knuckle stride he didn't seem to have the last go-round.

Regrettably, he seems to be afflicted with a minor palsy or tremor of some kind, in the hands.  He was placing them in his lap when normally they'd be on the table.  That won't come off too good with the younger candidates looking more capable in physical terms, and theres sure to be the issue raised of his longevity in very frank terms. 

Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 26, 2011, 09:51:39 PM
Yeah? I didnt notice the tremors in his hands, so that sucks, and sure, people will raise questions about his age, but I'm not too worried about him ACTUALLY winning anyway. Just was nice to see him taking questions and doing it in a calm coherent way, explaining his position where he's not jumping all willy-nilly from one subject to the next. I was impressed.

If he can keep it up, it will make for good debates. Thats all I really hope for in politics at this point. Getting the word out.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on April 26, 2011, 10:53:57 PM
Good for Ron, I'm just not getting my hopes up anymore.

He is getting a different message out and that's good.

To think he could win is delusional. 
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 26, 2011, 11:25:02 PM


If he can keep it up, it will make for good debates. Thats all I really hope for in politics at this point. Getting the word out.

Thats all I'm hoping for, too.  Basically, he's martyring himself.  Which is fine, if he's not under the illusions of something bigger.  If he's recognizing that as his purpose, I'm cool with that.  And if he actually did win.  Well, I guess I'd have to masturbate feverishly.  But he is a doctor, and I expect he's taken damn good care of himself, and recognizes things to alert others for.  Like when to say "fuck me, I'm sick!"  Which means, he should live to see ninety.   

As far as the tremors go, it wasn't like he was in the detox shakes.  He may have nothing at all, for all I know.  But he carried that posture as a man who in observance of his own age, was careful, and mindful of the presence of cameras. 

Maybe I'm too particular.  But I know others will be looking for that through a jewelers loop. 

Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 26, 2011, 11:55:41 PM
And if he actually did win.  Well, I guess I'd have to masturbate feverishly. 


Just do me a favor and do it at home like I would. The thought of 2,000,000 die-hard RP people all doing a giant circle-jerk in front of the Washington monument on inauguration day would be too much for to bear, even by my low moral standards.

What a mess.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: The ghost of a ghost of a ghost on April 27, 2011, 12:16:37 AM
And if he actually did win.  Well, I guess I'd have to masturbate feverishly. 


Just do me a favor and do it at home like I would. The thought of 2,000,000 die-hard RP people all doing a giant circle-jerk in front of the Washington monument on inauguration day would be too much for to bear, even by my low moral standards.

What a mess.

Not necessarily, if they drained the monument pool, or whatever the fuck you call it, and had everyone aim the jerk' in there, then sent it off to all the sperm banks, the world would probably be a much better place.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 27, 2011, 12:44:52 AM
And if he actually did win.  Well, I guess I'd have to masturbate feverishly. 


Just do me a favor and do it at home like I would. The thought of 2,000,000 die-hard RP people all doing a giant circle-jerk in front of the Washington monument on inauguration day would be too much for to bear, even by my low moral standards.

What a mess.

I'd never bat an eye out in public.

But I would be happy.

I think it'd be nice to see a man like RP in the oval. 

I kinda like the old guy.  The Oval is hard.  I don't wanna live another forty years and say Ron Paul won the Oval, and couldn't accomplish shit.  And then it all tanked, blabbedy bla.

Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: LTKoblinsky on April 27, 2011, 01:17:24 PM
He was actually on the view the other day and had those ladies all hot and bothered about ending the war. He even managed to stick a few lines to Whoopie (sp?) Goldberg about poor people so that she was the one who came off babbly and incoherent. I think he's got a darkhorse shot of winning a few states in the primary  this year.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: One two three on April 27, 2011, 01:31:54 PM
Good for Ron, I'm just not getting my hopes up anymore.

He is getting a different message out and that's good.

To think he could win is delusional. 

Glad you learned your listen :)
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 27, 2011, 01:53:29 PM
Good for Ron, I'm just not getting my hopes up anymore.

He is getting a different message out and that's good.

To think he could win is delusional.  

Glad you learned your listen :)


He would have to get the vote of 1/2 the voters who recieve direct welfare payments and 1/2 of all the chickenhawk/warmongers vote. Only when I put it that way to RP people, do they really comprehend the scope of the giant shit-hill he has to climb to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Regardless, im still gonna throw the guy a few sheckles expense money for traveling around the country spreading his message.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: cavalier973 on April 27, 2011, 02:03:46 PM

He would have to get the vote of 1/2 the voters who recieve direct welfare payments and 1/2 of all the chickenhawk/warmongers vote. Only when I put it that way to RP people, do they really comprehend the scope of the giant shit-hill he has to climb to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Regardless, im still gonna throw the guy a few sheckles expense money for traveling around the country spreading his message.

I was, at one time one, of the chickenhawk/warmongers.  I voted for Huckabee in 2008 primaries, and talked several of my dubious friends/family into voting for him, too.

Now, I'm in Ron Paul's camp, and I'm suspecting a lot of other people are as well, that were supporters of some other candidate last time around.

On the other hand, one of my co-workers claims he voted for Ron Paul last time, but he really likes Trump, now.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 27, 2011, 02:23:27 PM

He would have to get the vote of 1/2 the voters who recieve direct welfare payments and 1/2 of all the chickenhawk/warmongers vote. Only when I put it that way to RP people, do they really comprehend the scope of the giant shit-hill he has to climb to sleep in the Lincoln Bedroom.

Regardless, im still gonna throw the guy a few sheckles expense money for traveling around the country spreading his message.

I was, at one time one, of the chickenhawk/warmongers.  I voted for Huckabee in 2008 primaries, and talked several of my dubious friends/family into voting for him, too.

Now, I'm in Ron Paul's camp, and I'm suspecting a lot of other people are as well, that were supporters of some other candidate last time around.

On the other hand, one of my co-workers claims he voted for Ron Paul last time, but he really likes Trump, now.

Whats with these Trump people anyway? They want a guy that runs the country like a CEO of a large corporation?

Great, we call all have a dress code and hang out at the Federal watercooler talking about how great the "boss" is for throwing us a bone here and then.

I think the Trumpmania will die down when all his personal shit comes out of the woodwork. He's just a whore in it for the attention.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: LTKoblinsky on April 27, 2011, 02:31:50 PM
Trump is a joke. He's exactly what liberal/statist media wants from a Republican candidate, so they can embarass them. How could any Ron Paul supporter like Trump? He's ignorant, prowar, pays 0 attention to political policy and repercussions, and an asshole to boot. Who in the world would vote for him?
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 27, 2011, 02:41:53 PM
Trump is a joke. He's exactly what liberal/statist media wants from a Republican candidate, so they can embarass them. How could any Ron Paul supporter like Trump? He's ignorant, prowar, pays 0 attention to political policy and repercussions, and an asshole to boot. Who in the world would vote for him?

Yeah, he was talking about how he would like to impose heavy tarrifs on all imported Chinese goods. Like somehow thats gonna help anything. Guy doesn't even address the reasons WHY we buy so much chinese stuff in the first place. For such a successful guy, he sure is dumb.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: cavalier973 on April 27, 2011, 02:52:33 PM
Trump is a joke. He's exactly what liberal/statist media wants from a Republican candidate, so they can embarass them. How could any Ron Paul supporter like Trump? He's ignorant, prowar, pays 0 attention to political policy and repercussions, and an asshole to boot. Who in the world would vote for him?

He's a recruiter for the Army Reserve.  It's more than possible that he's just trying to yank my chain...it's really hard for me to tell when he's serious.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: cavalier973 on April 27, 2011, 02:53:30 PM
Trump is a joke. He's exactly what liberal/statist media wants from a Republican candidate, so they can embarass them. How could any Ron Paul supporter like Trump? He's ignorant, prowar, pays 0 attention to political policy and repercussions, and an asshole to boot. Who in the world would vote for him?

Trump also just lost one of his signature issues
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Bill Brasky on April 27, 2011, 03:20:56 PM
Trump doesn't have any diplomatic skills whatsoever.  He would get us killed.

His purpose this go-round would be akin to Sarah Palin.  People would like a few of his no-nonsense views for about five seconds, in a hypothetical world.  His presence would require a few of the "serious contenders" to perform differently.  You could stand any asshole behind that Trump podium, and they'd have to address that asshole, as well. 

My dream darkhorse is David Letterman.  Now he would be a pleasure to watch, in place of Trump, and ultimately everybody would know it's a ruse.  But people just don't understand Trump is a..   I donno even what to call him.  He's a thing.    He's a joke.  He's like the political version of a funhouse mirror.  He would never even be there if people didn't want to look at a warped illusion. 

But putting "the football" in Trump's hands, fo' real.  No way.  Its not even remotely funny. 
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 27, 2011, 03:42:32 PM
Trump is a joke. He's exactly what liberal/statist media wants from a Republican candidate, so they can embarass them. How could any Ron Paul supporter like Trump? He's ignorant, prowar, pays 0 attention to political policy and repercussions, and an asshole to boot. Who in the world would vote for him?

Trump also just lost one of his signature issues

Yep,

Now can we all just go back to worshiping Obama again? Geez. :P
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 27, 2011, 04:03:12 PM

My dream darkhorse is David Letterman.  Now he would be a pleasure to watch, in place of Trump, and ultimately everybody would know it's a ruse.  

That would be a good choice. I also wouldn't mind seeing Howard Stern in that spot. All dressed up in a power-suit, business haircut, just play the whole part. Sure, HS would be more cartoonish than Letterman, but the words that came out of that guys mouth in a debate would be, well, memorable. To quote the last american indian, "His props would be as funny as bear cub slipping in stream, and his barbs would sting like thorns from blackberry bush, yet its fruit would be sweet upon my lips."

Letterman/Stern 2012
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: BonerJoe on April 27, 2011, 08:07:59 PM
The best presidential candidates will never run for office.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: cavalier973 on April 28, 2011, 01:00:33 PM
http://www.glennbeck.com/content/videos/?uri=channels/451373/1316302
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Fred on April 29, 2011, 05:46:57 PM
someone was asking about Gary Johnson-

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRlGXuGHfrc[/youtube]
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: YixilTesiphon on April 29, 2011, 07:43:34 PM
I voted for Huckabee in 2008

Dude.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Sam Gunn (since nobody got Admiral Naismith) on April 29, 2011, 08:55:05 PM
someone was asking about Gary Johnson-

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRlGXuGHfrc[/youtube]
I'll vote for him.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: cavalier973 on April 29, 2011, 10:28:30 PM
I voted for Huckabee in 2008

Dude.

What?  For me, it was a good thing, because it lead more or less to me becoming an anarcho-austrian.
When Rush Limbaugh, National Review Online, and all the other neo-con sources of news and information
on which I relied went nuclear on Huckabee, I started looking for alternative, "conservative" news sources, and found
www.mises.org

Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: Turd Ferguson on April 29, 2011, 11:01:38 PM
I voted for Huckabee in 2008

Dude.

What?  For me, it was a good thing, because it lead more or less to me becoming an anarcho-austrian.
When Rush Limbaugh, National Review Online, and all the other neo-con sources of news and information
on which I relied went nuclear on Huckabee, I started looking for alternative, "conservative" news sources, and found
www.mises.org



Everyone started somewhere. I remember being a young kid thinking Jimmy Carter was the nicest man on the planet, with the best ideas in the universe. In my early 20's I was mostly neo-conish. I"ve pretty much tried it all at some point.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: LTKoblinsky on April 30, 2011, 09:51:17 AM
2008, I was a disillusioned ultra conservative Christian in college. Of course I voted for Obama. Then I read Atlas Shrugged, switched my major to econ, found Ron Paul, and learned a few things about politics., namely: we're fucked.
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: cavalier973 on May 06, 2011, 11:13:50 AM
http://ron-holland.blogspot.com/2011/05/ron-wins-debate-but-will-fed-put-him-in.html

"Today, Paul has won the first of many debates in the 2012 campaign. This time his supporters are too numerous and important to both Fox News and the individual state GOP party leadership for them to again ban him from the debates regardless of how much they want to silence his freedom and free-market message."
Title: Re: Whats up with Ron Paul???
Post by: cavalier973 on May 06, 2011, 11:15:37 AM
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/quote-of-the-gop-debate-rep-ron-paul-defends-heroin-as-an-exercise-of-liberty/

"While it took a little while for the Republican candidates attending tonight’s debate to get going, the sheer diversity on the panel guaranteed some spirited answers, paramount among them Rep. Ron Paul’s steadfast adherence to civil liberties, which somehow concluded with him supporting legalization of heroin to raucous applause– highlighting the thick tension between conservatives and libertarians on the GOP."