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Free Talk Live => General => Topic started by: FTL_Ian on July 04, 2009, 06:10:15 PM
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I want to leave Pirate Bay in protest of their selling out. What should I use instead?
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Maybe you should get the full picture on who bought it, and what their angle is.
People usually don't throw down a couple million on something they're gonna flip it on its head and fuck it all up. They might have good intentions.
Speaking from a limited knowledge of the situation, I haven't checked back since the day they announced it.
If axxo is still putting movies there, it's probably kosher.
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They plan to pull all pirate stuff from the site and only offer paid-content.
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I completely agree with you Ian. TPB is gone, hopefully new pirates will pick up where they left off and copy their work, since they actually want people to copy their work.
Check out
http://isohunt.com/
http://www.vertor.com/
and for more options
http://netforbeginners.about.com/od/peersharing/a/torrent_search.htm
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They plan to pull all pirate stuff from the site and only offer paid-content.
Oh. Well then, fuck them.
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Demonoid is excellent, but you to have to have a referral to join. They also keep track of your leech/seed ratio, and boot the leechers, which I like. Axxo posts on there regularly.
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Also consider the use of the metalink format as it can utilize FTP, HTTP, and P2P sources for downloading. This is especially good if you can't promise a torrent link, but maybe you know someone who's an AMPer that has an FTP or HTTP site to store the MP3s as a mirror.
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Demonoid is excellent, but you to have to have a referral to join. They also keep track of your leech/seed ratio, and boot the leechers, which I like. Axxo posts on there regularly.
Keeping a positive ratio is cake. I uploaded a couple hundred gigs a while back when I was on a wifi leech, I'm good for years. Now I just throttle my seeding to max the d/l speed, a good way to smash-and-grab popular shit with no exposure.
Never tried Demonoid.
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I have no problem keeping a pos ratio. I generally will seed 1:1 on the popular stuff, and the more hard to find stuff (old sci-fi audiobooks, etc.) I will keep seeding. It takes forever to get some of that stuff, simply because the demand isn't there.
I like Demonoid because there is a lot of stuff there that you can't find elsewhere. They do have outside torrents as well, but they will be marked with an (external). There is kind of a community feel to it. (If you want a code, lmk.)
Oh, I should add...no porn there. :lol:
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Demonoid is excellent, but you to have to have a referral to join. They also keep track of your leech/seed ratio, and boot the leechers, which I like. Axxo posts on there regularly.
nope, they don't boot the leechers >:D
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I'm really upset about this too. There's not really a good replacement yet for pirate bay, but I'd recommond minonova or isohunt. No way will I ever use demonoid or any service that forces me to sign into an account where my activity can be recorded.
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I'm really upset about this too. There's not really a good replacement yet for pirate bay, but I'd recommond minonova or isohunt. No way will I ever use demonoid or any service that forces me to sign into an account where my activity can be recorded.
That's my biggest issue with Demonoid. I never signed up for an account with TPB either. I think ISOhunt might be my choice now.
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Just found out about http://openbittorrent.com/
Read more about it here: http://torrentfreak.com/openbittorrent-tracker-muscles-in-on-the-old-pirate-bay-090705/
I think this might be an even better solution.
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www.torrentz.com
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www.torrentz.com
That'll work.
Crisis over.
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Why not just run your own tracker?
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Just found out about http://openbittorrent.com/
Read more about it here: http://torrentfreak.com/openbittorrent-tracker-muscles-in-on-the-old-pirate-bay-090705/
I think this might be an even better solution.
That looks good - I'll try it next month, thanks!
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torrentz is not a tracker, it is a search engine.
I will certainly keep my eyes open for openbittorrent as it looks very promising.
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torrentz is not a tracker, it is a search engine.
I will certainly keep my eyes open for openbittorrent as it looks very promising.
It's a meta tracker, it tracks all the trackers, so you can load all the trackers tracking your torrent into utorrent.
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They plan to pull all pirate stuff from the site and only offer paid-content.
Omg, the evil fucking bastards! I pirate because there is no way for me to pay for the films and TV shows I like. Why you guys over there, with your Netflix and your Hulu and your whatnot would prefer to pirate, I have no idea. The moral thing to do is to pay for the entertainment you appreciate.
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They plan to pull all pirate stuff from the site and only offer paid-content.
Omg, the evil fucking bastards! I pirate because there is no way for me to pay for the films and TV shows I like. Why you guys over there, with your Netflix and your Hulu and your whatnot would prefer to pirate, I have no idea. The moral thing to do is to pay for the entertainment you appreciate.
I tend to agree with you, HOWEVER....in the case of the music industry (and to a lesser extent the movie industry), the crap far outweighs the good stuff that is being put out. This is no different than making a tape in the 80's and passing it to friends. Nothing is stopping anyone from paying for the stuff. The Recording industry makes more money on a CD sale than the artist does. It costs $10 + to see a movie in the theater and $20 to own it. With the crap that gets churned out, I can see why so many people pirate. There's countless examples of artists who have gone to providing their stuff online for free and also offered pay or donate versions and have made more money than if they just stuck to CD's.
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It's not a matter of me not wanting to pay for it, it's that I want to try it before I buy it. When I download stuff, I listen to/watch it, then if I like it, I buy it. If I don't, I delete it. It's no different, morally, than borrowing a CD or watching a movie at a friend's house.
And even so, if the music and movie publishers charged a market price for their stuff instead of a massively inflated price supported by the government, I'd probably buy first anyway. Piracy would be a fringe activity if the entertainment industry responded to their customers. But they don't, not even a little bit.
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Actually, you can find a whole lot of movies for sale for $10 to $15. I have done so at Circuit City and Wal Mart many times.. if you are taking a date to the movies, it's almost always cheaper to buy the damn thing on DVD, not to mention rent it (I use redbox $1 rentals!!!!)
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Actually, you can find a whole lot of movies for sale for $10 to $15.
Yeah, old ones that nobody watches.
The Red Box is a cool idea though. Unfortunately the lines for them are always intolerably long, so I've never used one.
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They plan to pull all pirate stuff from the site and only offer paid-content.
Omg, the evil fucking bastards! I pirate because there is no way for me to pay for the films and TV shows I like. Why you guys over there, with your Netflix and your Hulu and your whatnot would prefer to pirate, I have no idea. The moral thing to do is to pay for the entertainment you appreciate.
Not evil. They bought it so it's theirs to do with as they please. I doubt anyone will stay though and they'll probably fail. Just move on there are other torrent sites and plenty of ways to spread data around on the internet.
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I pirate because there is no way for me to pay for the films and TV shows I like. Why you guys over there, with your Netflix and your Hulu and your whatnot would prefer to pirate, I have no idea. The moral thing to do is to pay for the entertainment you appreciate.
They don't have stores there?
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I pirate because there is no way for me to pay for the films and TV shows I like. Why you guys over there, with your Netflix and your Hulu and your whatnot would prefer to pirate, I have no idea. The moral thing to do is to pay for the entertainment you appreciate.
They don't have stores there?
He lives in Norway. The taxes are extremely high there (enjoy your welfare state).
I pirate because it's something I want and I don't see it as any different than going to a library or getting it from a secondhand shop or whatever.
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I've looked into starting my own liberty-oriented tracker site once...
In the end, just didn't have the time... (http://bbs.freetalklive.com/index.php?topic=13243.0) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/smiley-sad008.gif) (http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys.php)