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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #60 on: May 13, 2012, 01:56:46 PM »

I don't get that stressed at even really evil trolls. I'll try and be more understanding. Good luck with your movie.

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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #61 on: May 13, 2012, 06:03:06 PM »

...another timeless ramble from the lap of Ol Pap Brasky. ..c'mere shonny lemme tell ye about life..

It's good that you explained yourself. I don't share that need.
[...]Whether or not you guys accept the criticism is up to you.





Irony.  Criticism of bad behavior is what pushed you into battle mode, from which you never regained your composure. 

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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #62 on: May 13, 2012, 07:42:14 PM »

...another timeless ramble from the lap of Ol Pap Brasky. ..c'mere shonny lemme tell ye about life..

It's good that you explained yourself. I don't share that need.
[...]Whether or not you guys accept the criticism is up to you.





Irony.  Criticism of bad behavior is what pushed you into battle mode, from which you never regained your composure. 



All it takes is a stroll through my post history here to see otherwise. Criticism has never bothered me, I like it just as much as a solid opposing viewpoint. It's common, and a pity, those who can't cope in those situations typically resort to aggression as a result.

As for the word filter, I'd encourage people who are concerned about offensive speech to try it out. I haven't in some time, but last I checked all sorts of offensive words are not filtered here. Before any implications surface that I'm a main reason for the word filter's existence - again, just check my post history. The whole story is there, unaltered. I assume it's all unaltered anyway, posts being changed by mods has happened here.
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #63 on: May 13, 2012, 08:35:33 PM »

M00t (Christopher Poole creator of 4chan) explains the decline of web forums. 

Note the usage of the term "tribe finding".


Chris Poole part 1/3- ROFLCON 2012 - Solo Panel
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2012, 08:56:23 PM »

...another timeless ramble from the lap of Ol Pap Brasky. ..c'mere shonny lemme tell ye about life..

It's good that you explained yourself. I don't share that need.
[...]Whether or not you guys accept the criticism is up to you.





Irony.  Criticism of bad behavior is what pushed you into battle mode, from which you never regained your composure. 



All it takes is a stroll through my post history here to see otherwise. Criticism has never bothered me, I like it just as much as a solid opposing viewpoint. It's common, and a pity, those who can't cope in those situations typically resort to aggression as a result.

As for the word filter, I'd encourage people who are concerned about offensive speech to try it out. I haven't in some time, but last I checked all sorts of offensive words are not filtered here. Before any implications surface that I'm a main reason for the word filter's existence - again, just check my post history. The whole story is there, unaltered. I assume it's all unaltered anyway, posts being changed by mods has happened here.


Criticism obviously bothers you, otherwise you wouldn't refute it to such lengths, or try to circumvent requests of the owner to modify your behavior to a civilized manner.  Example, changing your username to NiggerSpicKikeFaggot was an end-run around the request, and you got locked in the basement for it.  A fuckin' nine year old can comprehend why that is unacceptable.  So, essentially, you were throwing a tantrum that got squelched.  And you still refuse to own it. 

No shit all words are not filtered.  There is no way to do that.  If one is abused, it can be modified.  That is the purpose of the tool. Currently NO words are filtered.

Example, if you started calling black folks "coons", I would remove your ability to do that.  And I'd probably do it creatively to embarrass you in the process.

You can damage your reputation any way you want, makes no difference to me.  But you're not gonna do it here where it reflects negatively on other peoples property, identity, and income.  Do it on your own FB page, or shove it up your ass.

For the umpteenth time, I refer you to the TOS and the owners explanation.   Don't like it, take it up with him.  I'm sure he'd be more than happy to drop you off if you insist on having it your way, cause this ain't fuckin' Burger King.



 

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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #65 on: May 14, 2012, 10:28:14 PM »

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Example, changing your username to NiggerSpicKikeFaggot was an end-run around the request, and you got locked in the basement for it

I stopped reading your comment at that point.

Why you'd try to extend this discussion is beyond me.. it's been covered numerous times. And I didn't use "the N." as part of the offensive name, I used other slurs to make the point that your filter falls short of protecting the feelings of other groups. That point still stands.

What you and Shaw routinely do is not criticism, it's simple name calling. By all means, critique away, anyone, but be accurate with your claims, bring valid points, make your argument a good one. It's been done here before - several people have made me rethink my positions, and I like it. Overall, the points I've made here are solid and have only been dodged or challenged by people arguing from an emotional standpoint.

You, Shaw & BJ act or have acted like assholes. You're all pals, old timers at this BBS. "Insiders" would be an accurate way to put it. Nothing wrong with that at all - but, typically, you all get one-sided and automatically take one anothers side on issues. That's where the trouble is. It even spread to Letitia who was pretty eager to ban me for something I had no involvement in.

Banning people, deleting threads, editing people's posts, etc. Gene gave his story, you know mine, and the others are no longer here to share their stories because they've been banned or grew tired of the routine and left.

That is criticism. Take it or leave it but don't forget that the effects of what I've described are in plain sight. The message hasn't just come from me - I'm just the last guy here willing to tell you.

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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #66 on: May 14, 2012, 10:58:58 PM »

We covered that already, Brasky, you including "the N." into the offensive name.

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/apparently-i-best-be-watchin%27-mah-step-boss/msg650587/#msg650587

It's okay, stuff like that happens all the time here. So often in fact there's an entire thread dedicated to it.

http://bbs.freetalklive.com/general/is-hellbilly-racist/

Trouble is, I don't use "the N.". I don't use any slurs, even the ones that are permitted here. Another spot of trouble seems to be that, in all the years of being accused, there's no evidence at all that I'm a racist. Only accusations and emotional arguments from the same 3-4 people.

Huh.
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #67 on: May 15, 2012, 12:31:01 AM »

Hellbilly, I was given the thumbs up to ban you over a year ago.

As far as I am concerned the only thing that would ever actually push you into ban territory is the constant goddamn bitching and moaning about the mods, and not the race issue.

At least at this point.

But I don't even fucking sit around and think about it, and frankly the mods almost never talk about it. You see connections where there are none.

Yes, Brasky and BJ and I are friends, and we often agree. Ask BJ about the number of times that he's disagreed with me though. You'd be surprised.

There is no monolithic force working against dissent. There is no cabal. There's just you and people like you screaming bloody fucking murder until some mod gets fed up and then another you or person like you to take up the mantle of screaming bloody fucking murder when the first person finally gets removed.

Abide by the BBS Terms of Service or get banned. Every possible controversial point on the new TOS is followed with the codicil "At the discretion of the moderators." - That extra little bit was added just for you. It essentially put an end to your fucking endless language lawyering about which words were permitted and which ones weren't.

Again, abide by the BBS Terms of Service or be removed.

If you keep dropping my name every second post whilst bitching about moderator abuse you're eventually gonna get banned for trolling. Latitude on trolling is very fucking wide, but as I said, I had the ticket to remove you a year ago.

<<<Tired of your shit but still willing to put up with it a little while longer because he hopes you'll eventually lay the fuck off of him and be civil. Hope springs eternal.
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #68 on: May 15, 2012, 02:11:29 AM »


I really just skim his diatribes, and point out the idiotic name-change, which he likes to pretend never happened.

None of it matters, it's just him shouting at the sky.  The argument is completely irrational, similar to him yelling "Why is Huck Finn allowed in the library, but I can't shout it in the hallways?" 

Because its all a matter of perspective and intent, thats why. 

He can say whatever he wants, until he says something the wrong way.  And I don't think he's ever said much the wrong way (aside from the name change), he just insists he should be able to, ad nauseum.  He enjoys the argument, which probably indicates a whole bunch of weird critters in his attic.

My advice is what I'd tell anyone who disagrees with a policy - fuckin' LEAVE.  It works for me, theres plenty of places I don't go- both online and IRL. 

Mike said it best the other day.  He said "If I had a house party and put a sign on my doghouse that says "DO NOT FUCK MY DOG", and then some asshole insisted he should be allowed to fuck my dog, I'd throw him the fuck out."

Can't be much more clear than that.




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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #69 on: May 15, 2012, 02:39:51 PM »

I'll tell you what's happened.  This BBS used to be a great place for discussion but some of you banded together into an "exclusive club" of asses who would work overtime to be obnoxious (to put it mildly) in order to chase away those who you felt had opinions that you object to.  Well it worked... now it's a ghost town.  You got your exclusive club so enjoy it...

I come here mainly to get the AMP archives so I must come once a week or I miss some and have to repost the links in order to download them.  I only glance at the posts and I marvel that there are only a handful per day when there used to sometimes be so many in one thread that it was hard to keep up with.

I'm posting this and then moving on to other more interesting sites, so flame on to your hearts content, I'll check back in a week...



Yeah, we're a cabal and it's all about you.  Since we discouraged you there's no longer anything interesting here and no one comes around.
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2012, 02:54:45 PM »

Let's clear up the righteous mod bullshit.

Months ago probably, awhile ago anyway, a little birdie told me to check out a post from one mod to another mod's facebook page, so I did. To avoid drama I didn't say shit about it here - and to avoid further drama I'm not gonna name names, though I usually do. Here's the text (took a screenshot too in case it disappears).

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Hi there! Guess what? Theres a word filter in the new build. Go try to write the variations of the N. and preview it. EPIC win. I LAUGHED MY BALLS OFF. And it's retroactive. The whole site. Every post, ever. That dickhead has five thousand posts saying whatever the fuck we want. HAHAHA!"

I know a lot of mature, calm, collected, noble, emotionally stable men and none of them ever display giddy emotion such as that.

The claim has been that the mods are the real victims here and they only engage in fair play and would never jerk around posters at the BBS. Hhm. How about that. You can't skew this statement, but won't be surprised if someone tries.

I don't know who the "dickhead" is, probably dragline since he's the only one who used "the N.", and not in a racist way. Too bad he was banned and can't speak for himself here.

The people at this BBS are the most tolerant group of people I've ever interacted with online. Well - were - the most tolerant I should say. Was a wasted effort to enforce tolerance here.


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Before I'm called a stalker, etc. - just don't. I'm not and it won't change what's been said. Everyone here posts enough to make stalking unnecessary.

I love it when someone tries to provoke an argument which ends with "and don't start anything."
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #71 on: May 15, 2012, 03:29:05 PM »

Funny how that one post from Lindsey prompted folks to post shit...

She must be hot as fuck!  Pics anyone?
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #72 on: May 15, 2012, 07:03:41 PM »

Hellbilly, be the bigger man.
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #73 on: May 17, 2012, 12:59:41 PM »

Thanks to all the people who engage in the thankless and somewhat masochistic task of being a moderator here.

No thanks to the trolls and haters.

I agree with Dalebert - Facebook is killing forums.  It's hard to get people to leave FB for forums, despite forums being better for discussions for some of the reasons Gene gave earlier.
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Re: What the Hell is going on in here?
« Reply #74 on: May 17, 2012, 01:32:32 PM »

*High Five*
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