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What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« on: August 02, 2010, 08:20:18 AM »

My dad who is a hardcore liberal, never had a private job, thinks guns need to be banned. He has said in the past:


1. Use a frying pan instead

2. That's what doors are for
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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #1 on: August 02, 2010, 11:05:17 AM »

My dad who is a hardcore liberal, never had a private job, thinks guns need to be banned. He has said in the past:


1. Use a frying pan instead

2. That's what doors are for


1. Police should be armed with frying pans.

2. Doors are for what? I don't think your father has a good grasp of ballistics if he thinks doors can be used as firearms.

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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #2 on: August 02, 2010, 03:26:08 PM »

I don't remember, I think they're all fine with it now.
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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #3 on: August 02, 2010, 04:03:10 PM »

If they were truly scared of the guns, they wouldn't say much.
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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2010, 04:25:00 PM »

is he armed with a frying pan and a door when he walks down the street?, and it would be fine to ban guns if you could wave a magic wand and make them all go poof and make gun powder not work so people cant make new guns, I guess he would want to ban cross bows and swords too.

but anyway your parents wont listen to their son, if you knew more then he does it would probably piss him off,  their isn't much of a point in trying to persuade him unless you can make him watch a very persuasive movie about guns.

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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2010, 07:07:42 PM »

Nobody in my family is anti-gun...
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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2010, 09:59:10 PM »

The closest my family comes to being anti-gun is my mother, and she's only uncomfortable about them because her husband shot himself in the head in front of her. My dad's totally pro-gun, to the point where he's legally not supposed to have one, but... may or may not... anyway.

I had a discussion with a Brit who was all for the banning of guns everywhere, but he didn't get the sense and logic behind responsibility and protection. He claimed there wasn't a gun problem in England, but there was a knife problem. So I said a knife ban comes next (or is already in effect, if I recall), so what happens when people start using rocks and sticks? Ban trees and gravel?
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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 04:20:34 AM »

What's wrong with being anti-gun? How about if a perfect non-lethal substitute is available? I'm a Libertarian and I'd prefer a non-gun world over gun free for all, especially if non-lethal substitutes exist, such as stun guns. The latest stun guns are bad-ass, fullfills your need for protection and allows me some protection from being collateral damage from a workplace gun incident or random shooting. We all win.

Seems like the wrong issue to pick a fight with statists over.  Gun control's not a statist position (unless you feel the state is disarming you so it can have monopoly advantage over force) or infringement upon your liberties or natural rights.  It's not even irrational. Why not go after them on things that actually do concern natural rights like imprisoning drug users or debt issues or the Fed? Or Obamacare and forcing people to buy health insurance on pain of imprisonment.
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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2010, 10:07:52 AM »

(unless you feel the state is disarming you

We do.

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so it can have monopoly advantage over force)

They do.

I dont think many of us on here would advocate picking a "fight" with the statists, however we do work on changing all the issues you mentioned in our own ways (protest, noncompliance, etc).
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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2010, 03:05:04 PM »

What's wrong with being anti-gun?

It demonstrates basic insecurity, exactly the way being "anti-hammer" does.

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity”
   Sigmund Freud

It also demonstrates the triumph of fear over intellect.

“Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility.”
   Sigmund Freud

Being "anti-gun" also substitutes the rare case of being harmed for the not at all rare case of being saved from harm. Someone who is "anti-gun" would laugh at the idea of being "anti-fireextinguisher", since they acknowledge the benefits of having one, and yet a fireextinguisher can easily be used to kill.

Just like a hammer. Bang bang, Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead. Ba-dum dum.
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Re: What do your anti gun friends/family say?
« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2010, 12:00:02 AM »

What's wrong with being anti-gun?

It demonstrates basic insecurity, exactly the way being "anti-hammer" does.

“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity”
   Sigmund Freud

It also demonstrates the triumph of fear over intellect.

“Most people do not really want freedom, because freedom involves responsibility, and most people are frightened of responsibility.”
   Sigmund Freud

Being "anti-gun" also substitutes the rare case of being harmed for the not at all rare case of being saved from harm. Someone who is "anti-gun" would laugh at the idea of being "anti-fireextinguisher", since they acknowledge the benefits of having one, and yet a fireextinguisher can easily be used to kill.

Just like a hammer. Bang bang, Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead. Ba-dum dum.

I have a brother that is your classic "the state is good and will take care of everybody and we don't need to take care of ourselves" dumbass, and this post, particularly the Freud quotes, describes him exactly. 
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