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We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« on: November 08, 2008, 08:15:24 PM »

We are a nation ruled by arbitrary man.

First:
While in office our elected "representatives" can pass any law they wish. There is no check on the laws passed at this stage.
-Men can pass any law: Man 1 - Law 0

Second:
The laws are not checked until someone breaks the law.This will take very courageous individuals because to break the law is to invite danger on your self and your family.
-We must break the law before it can be checked: Man 2 - Law 0

Third:
The trial over the law must be appealed to successively higher courts until reaching the supreme court. But - The appeal process isn't automatic. The trial must be given permission to move up the rungs of the court system.
-The trial against the law must be given permission by Men to proceed: Man 3 - Law 0

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At the highest level the law is finally tried against the constitution. Ah, but the constitution itself is naught but a "living" doument. As supreme court members are replaced by new members they may interpret and re-interpret the constitution as they see fit. And the final decision is made by a vote.. Tyrannous democracy rears its head once again.
-The law is compared against a document which is itself re-interpreted by Men over and over and the final decision comes down to a vote: Man 5 - Law 0


It must be obvious that Law (something immutable and true everywhere) does not rule us; instead, it's the arbitrary rules made up by an arbitrary group of men that rules us.
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #1 on: November 08, 2008, 08:28:50 PM »

Good post, I hate that mindless "we're a nation of laws" slogan...
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #2 on: November 08, 2008, 08:38:11 PM »

Thanks,
I'm writing this as a response to someone else who said that our nation was one of law. He's one of those who just can't put the USA in front of mirror and take a good, long look.

I put here as a sounding board.
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2009, 12:44:38 AM »

We are a nation ruled by arbitrary man.

First:
While in office our elected "representatives" can pass any law they wish. There is no check on the laws passed at this stage.
-Men can pass any law: Man 1 - Law 0

Second:
The laws are not checked until someone breaks the law.This will take very courageous individuals because to break the law is to invite danger on your self and your family.
-We must break the law before it can be checked: Man 2 - Law 0

Third:
The trial over the law must be appealed to successively higher courts until reaching the supreme court. But - The appeal process isn't automatic. The trial must be given permission to move up the rungs of the court system.
-The trial against the law must be given permission by Men to proceed: Man 3 - Law 0

Fourth:
At the highest level the law is finally tried against the constitution. Ah, but the constitution itself is naught but a "living" doument. As supreme court members are replaced by new members they may interpret and re-interpret the constitution as they see fit. And the final decision is made by a vote.. Tyrannous democracy rears its head once again.
-The law is compared against a document which is itself re-interpreted by Men over and over and the final decision comes down to a vote: Man 5 - Law 0


It must be obvious that Law (something immutable and true everywhere) does not rule us; instead, it's the arbitrary rules made up by an arbitrary group of men that rules us.


Yes, we are not a nation that ruled by law, instead we are the nation that ruled by God.

So that means the USA is a theocracy then?

If you like being ruled by God so much, go to fucking Saudi Arabia.
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2009, 05:02:50 AM »

Is there anything wrong with us being one nation under a groove, gettin down just for the funk of it?
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #5 on: June 13, 2009, 11:30:27 AM »

Is there anything wrong with us being one nation under a groove, gettin down just for the funk of it?

I support this.
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #6 on: June 13, 2009, 11:34:11 AM »


Yes, we are not a nation that ruled by law, instead we are the nation that ruled by God.


Bullshit. God doesn't function through violent bureaucracies.
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #7 on: June 13, 2009, 04:26:07 PM »


Yes, we are not a nation that ruled by law, instead we are the nation that ruled by God.


Bullshit. God doesn't function through violent bureaucracies.

How about a "God of our understanding" leaving it open too 100% of the people
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2009, 04:57:10 PM »

Yeah ok
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Re: We are not a nation ruled by Law.
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2009, 05:56:52 PM »


Yes, we are not a nation that ruled by law, instead we are the nation that ruled by God.


Bullshit. God doesn't function through violent bureaucracies.

How about a "God of our understanding" leaving it open too 100% of the people

Sounds reasonable.

My God says we should only associate in voluntary compacts free from violence.
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